I break my rule and comment early. Both are not noticing each other’s major issue, but then these are nuclear bombs to both of them. Plus Piro staying with Tiffany!!! Whoa Nellie! I think they will sort it out though. Except for Tiffany and Piro.
“A Dip Into The Skinny”“Do The Aftermath”“Highlights About Low Points”“Never Expected WhatchaSaid!”“Counting On A Recount”“The Deep End”“Postgame”“Breaking News, Broken Hearts”“Electric Stories” (♫)“Everybody’s Talkin’….” (♪)“I’m Dropping Bombs On Ya, Baby… " (♪)“Coming Clean About Dirty Laundry” or“Two Big Scoops”
It’ll get better in the end.If it isn’t better, it isn’t the end..They are friends and will eventually listen too..They both realize that the world isn’t as they wish and it is partly because of their actions.(You are the only thing you can change, or at least your actions and attitudes.)
Wow… lots of drama to the start of 2016. Can’t wait to see what Greg has next..Will Luann and Quill get back together and work things out?How will the Piro, Bern, Gunther, Tiff quadrangle be resolved?What does Mr. Grey want in return (miss berger)?How will Brad and Toni’s wedding turn out?.Tune in for what Greg has in store for 2016…
It will be interesting seeing what happens w Bernie over time. She for so long avoided risk by tightly following rules and plans, but now her life is becoming more freeform. Ultimately she needs that, but while she learns she has no idea how to weigh things, when to censor herself, etc. Most of the members of her past crowd are beyond that point, but people attain their life skills on their own timelines, and those vary considerably. Right now she and Luann have history that should continue their friendship, but each might need to grow in separate ways for a while before they understand each other well once again.
Argythree, excellent and perceptive summary.As an old fart in a long and excellent marriage i read the comments and sometimes happily think, “This person is perceptive enough that she or he probably also has a great relationship going, or will in the future.”, but the comments of others make me figure they might never have that joy and if they stick where they are then they will not even understand why, nor how they coukd have changed that. That part is rather sad, unless the people associate only with a narrow group of people or only one gender, or are asexual, but i do hope most other people can learn if they just decide to try, and i do think that most people do learn instead of glueing themselves in place.
Luann may have a touch of Peter Pan Syndrome, wanting things to remain as they have been in her youthful past. But she is now running into problems, big or small, of an adult world that she has not yet learned to cope with….
ENOUGH!Look, here’s a “backbone” for EACH of You.Insert It! GOOD!Now Luann? Go find Pru. Give her a well meaning, Assertive Slap, Then go find Pretty Boy. Give him BACK his STUPID Boomerang necklace thing back and tell him to get lost.Good, GOOD!
Now You BERN, Find the Campus Police and have them forcibly REMOVE Piro from school property and have him charged with trespassing since he’s obviously NOT a Student. Then have Tiffany expelled.
Finally both YOU and Luann go find Gunther. Make Yourselves satisfied and SHARE him! And live happily ever after!
Of the relationships Greg and Karen Evans have shown over time from Dirk/Toni (“rescued” by Brad), newfound LuAnn/Quill/Prudence & Bernice/Piro?, Gunther/Rosa, Mrs. Berger/Mr. Gray, seems the only natural, compatible pairing is one we hardly ever see and they are Crystal and Knute. Knute’s character is so far out and flaky (male version of an airhead); Crystal’s character is so sensible and cynical that going with the “opposites attract” concept, Knute & Crystal really have an odd liking for each other.
keema70 said, about 7 hours ago“I’m very curious about how Frank and Nancy are going to repay Mr. Gray.”Maybe Evans will hold another audience poll to find out what the Trufans want and draw accordingly.
They’re both wrong! Luann needs to find a career goal. She’s good with kids, can design sets, and probably has other skills and talents that haven’t come to light yet. Then maybe she won’t focus on the boyfriend so much. And the boyfriend? Since he grew up with distant parents who don’t seem to care where he goes or what he does, he’s terrible with intimacy. He’s more distant now than when he was in Australia. And by intimacy I don’t mean what goes on in the prop room!
Lu and Bern need to go to a convent. Pru is an opportunist and will get Mr. Grey to front the money to buy out the DeGroots. Quill is too full of himself and just needs to go away.If Luann is so good with set design, why did Frank let Pru make a deal. Oh, the decisions Karen has to make. Don’t think I care for this strip anymore….
I just don’t see this as mature (Quill) vs. immature (Luann). I think Luann lacks the confidence to accept and express her needs, which makes her defensive. Quill is playing the hyper-rational card, which is emotionally dense and even bullying.
Sally Margaret, Thank you for the education! I did not know that Emerson poem, Give All to Love, and had to look it up.This strip in recent days keeps having an old song, Talk to Me, go through my mind. Apologies for not finding the lyricist’s name in my search. Here are some of the lyrics:You’re always in a great big hurry, grab a kiss and off you scurry.Off to there, and there to who knows where.I’d give the world and all creation for a little conversation, Just a word or two, how are things, what’s new?Please talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, Your magical kiss can take me just so far.Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, Don’t leave me like this, dangling from a star.You set me all aflame and it’s so pleasin’, It would be a shame if you were only teasin’.So, my love, before I go, turn the light way down low, And talk to me, talk to me, talk to me.Before people make assumptions, this song is usually sung by a male.I am hoping that both Luann and Quill have some introspection in the strip, and know that with the strip’s history they will, but i can not see their relationship continuing as a romance. They are kids and kids grow a lot, often in different ways and rates. If they do not think about it, though, then neither will learn for the future, so i suspect that they will think. Quill will see that his work passion is now his focus. Luann will see that she learned to love unselfishly by being fully supportive of Quill. I think she will continue that support by saying goodbye to him even though she wants him. When people look only at her having reached her exploding point they are missing the big picture: that for many months she placed the welfare and happiness of someone else before her own without having that kindness even recognized. Later in life when she is in a relationship where both people want to put the other person first for the sake of each other as their own greatest joy, too, she will find what love can be.I strongly agree that it is time for Luann to learn to also love herself and blossom. Many of the characters are doing that in ways which so well echo real life. It can be a challenging process, but with enough introspection it has wonderful results.
People tend to get what they work at, and what they work at tends to be what they value most. With kids that can be quite transient. Seeing where their lives are when they reach their 40s (which is — in my case was — a great decade because the people are usually still vibrantly healthy but also old enough to care far less how others assess them) coukd be an interesting gift at some point in the future.
It’s not entirely clear just what is bothering Bernice. Is she distressed that she can’t report Tiffany for violating a rule (since she violated it herself), or is she worried that her tightly run dorm will now fall apart with rules openly ignored (of course, Piro has been openly ignoring them for as long as we’ve seen him), or is she in fact “jealous” of Tiffany on account of the scarf incident? Insofar as we know, Piro just leaves scarves everywhere, rather than bestows them as tokens of affection. We haven’t see Piro express any interest whatsoever in either Bern or Tiff – just in their rooms, as places to crash.
May others here work toward having the good fortune you and i have had in our own marriages. May they not only find someone who wants to place them first, but have grown enough to have placing their loved ones first be the focus they are fortunate to have in their own lives. Of course, realistically, there will be some who never get it, who just respond to things instead of thinking about those difficulties and their underpinnings, and who further limit their reach, vision, and goals by assuming that all relationships must be as incomplete as theirs. Sadly, some of the older ones will never realize that careers continue and are successful also when that support system exists, not only when the career is placed first. So, here is mostly hoping for the young ones here to learn! I do not know about you but the L&Q arc has me appreciating and thanking my hubby even more!
Quill: “Luann is mad at me, and she won’t even tell me why! But I haven’t done anything!!! I think she’s jealous that we’re friends, Pru, but I’ve told her over and over that we’re just pals, and apparently she resents you anyway! I just don’t know what’s going on with her, and she won’t talk!!! How can I explain to her that there’s no reason for her to be angry, when she refuses to listen???”Pru: “There, there.” [Pours him a drink] “Tell me all about it. I’m listening.”And so it begins…
Communication. Yesterday’s strip shows how Qu and Lu are too self-centered to communicate. Today’s strip show how Bern and Lu are too self-absorbed to communicate.*Learning to listen. Learning to give & take. Major lessons for young adults.
And it’s beautiful how the well-fortified “Happy” in yesterday’s strip could not be sustained, even with the pure physical force of dozens of staples. Good job, Team Evans!
“She just has the wrong guy. Quill is not good for her or compatible with her….”*Sally M – You’re right, as of this year. They have grown and are growing apart. My hunch is they will separate for a number of years (as did Karen & her h.s. boyfriend) and reunite later after they both have grown.*Please note— only one “r” separates a boy friend from a boy fiend.
As i was working on something it struck me that while i certainly can hope that others find the kind of joy that is in our relationship, i do not have the right to assume that form of happiness is optimal for all. Some people are better suited to other foci and goals, and for them those are probably more rewarding. It does mean that they might know a lot less about successful relationships while knowing much more about something else, kind of like the way that an engineer might know a bit of biology but far less than an actual biologist, with the reverse also being true.
Comparing their lack of communication, Quills career focus and Luann’s immaturity to Quills beating her until she bleeds? Lousy metaphor, in my opinion. Unfortunately some people do experience assaults. To compare that disgusting behavior to what is going on here? I don’t see it.
@Night-Gaunt49“Chased him off? Who wants him?”.Luann does.And doesn’t.And does, but only with minor changes.Or doesn’t without minor changes.Or. . . .She’s complicated.He’s simple.We men are simple.Simply wunnerful.
Love hurtsLove scarsLove wounds and marksAny heart not tough or strong enoughTo take a lot of pain, take a lot of painLove is like a cloud, it holds a lot of rainLove hurts, (by Nazareth)
@Mordock999“Now You BERN, Find the Campus Police and have them forcibly REMOVE Piro from school property and have him charged with trespassing since he’s obviously NOT a Student. Then have Tiffany expelled.”.Or perhaps you might actually investigate further before doing something stupid.
“it can’t be explained well in words—only in actions and pictures.”.I like pictures..Which calls to mind:We were enjoying a family gathering with my wife’s family yesterday.I was working the crossword puzzle.The clue was Author of “Bad Girls”Nobody knew, so I just said, "I’ll just Google “Bad Girls”. Whoah! You’ll never guess the offerings Google gave that one. Ah, here it is for the song."Surprisingly, the rest already guessed the primary offerings.Patsy explained, “David has no judgement.”
@DavidHuieGreen“Ultimatums never work that well when dating. Make up your own mind and act accordingly.”.True dat.Which is also why I suspect a certain presidential aspirant would make a poor president.He claims he would issue ultimata to Putin, a man who controls several nuclear explosive devices.
Many times I had to suspend o s task to generate input from another.That works she you have to halt work for a time.The two halves of the brain are connected and the entire brain is involved in all tasks, even if PET scans show more function in some parts than others.Nonetheless, if I am concentrating, I often can’t hear anything else.If I am talking, I may not notice a driving hazard.Brains are finite (even mine!)..Edison was one of my heroes, but even he understood his near~deafness was one of his best helps.Fewer distractions.
A year ago, Piro didn’t know Dez, either. Their connection was that they had a mutual friend (whom I don’t believe we’ve ever seen). Of course, that was last year, and maybe now they know each other (especially since Piro seems to be a “resident” of the dorm, without paying a board contract!).
“Huge fight”? Looks more like Quill is saying “That b***h” is crazy! I don’t need this. I’m outta here.".
Seriously, though, the Evanses have created two real human dilemmas for these characters.
It turns out that Luann is not just fearful of losing Quill – she’s afraid losing hold of everything, including the attention of her family. Pru and The Fuse are holding everyone’s attention, and Luann feels she’s being taken taken for granted or ignored. Add her lack of direction, and she’s really lost. Sadly, at this point she has no one she can turn to; her “counselor” friend is no help, her clueless parents wouldn’t see what she’s upset about, and Pru IS the core of Luann’s worries. And she probably doesn’t want to hear what Dez’s cards have to say. (Maybe Toni, as someone suggested.)
And Miss Perfect is facing what happens when she and the real world don’t measure up to her rule-enforcing standards. Like Luann, she can’t tell anyone else her dilemma, as she would just get into worse trouble. (As a bonus, her fantasies about catching Piro’s attention seem to have crashed & burned.)
Will the Evanses give us story lines that work through these situations? Or will they just drop the whole thing, like Gunthie’s mommy-fixation? Only time — probably a LONG time — will tell.
Thank you for taking it in the spirit in which it was intended. Some folks online take offense at playful ribbing even if it is followed by a wink emoticon.
@DavidHuieGreen“Nobody thought the Scarcrow had a brain until he got a diploma. That’s the way it is sometimes!”.It was clear throughout the movie that he was smart, just as the tin man was tender hearted and the cowardly lion was brace for facing his fears.
.The scary thing about respect based on a diploma is the same as respect due to fame. Sometimes it isn’t deserved or is given in a matter unrelated to the field of the diploma or music industry or movies..President Johnson is on tape wanting to avoid involvement in Vietnam but was persuaded by Robert McNamara, in part because HE had degrees. Looking back, Johnson would’ve been better off going with his gut ~ And so would a number of my formerly living neighbors.
Two not-yet-mature teenagers taking comfort in their long established “safe place”, both talking but neither listening. They should pause, and tell each other what they are hearing. I want feedback from another’s prospective. The monologs should become a dialog, but, personally I do not believe that they have yet reached that level. Right now they are stagnated on “me.” Dr. Lucy, of Peanuts, would charge 5 cents for that observation.
Sally Margaret,My hubby is a physicist by education though in much of his work past he was an inventor for a major company. When people here use internet music and some other things they still are utilizing multiple patents that include his name. Wwhen he was at BNL a female researcher showed up. It seems tthat serious physicists and mathematicianns have a higher rate of synesthesia. His imposes areas off colors with sounds. To some extent like other synesthesics he lives onomonopia
Sorry about the typing. I am getting delayed letter appearance and a hidden comments box on top of my eye being tired. Better rebooot. Anyway, i used nebulous wording. Steve hears certain sounds or good music and ses a light show of colors. Music is NEVER played wwhen he is driving.
Ah, there was a part of me that was hoping you would be the researcher who was there studying synesthesia, Sally Margaret. Yeah, long shot, but they happen sometimes. (The best one we know involved some friends when we were adult students, about 1980. A visiting professor from China traveled to see the U.S. And dropped in on Steve’s parents. While there the next door neighbors visited and Lloyd mentioned that his uncle had been a missionary teacher in China. His uncle turned out to be the most important pre-college teacher in our friend’s life, and he was still alive and satient in a nursing home a few states away. They were able to reach him by phone and pupil and teacher were able to reconnect decades after parting ways.)
Seismic, part of my hubby’s undergrad education was at CalTech (There was a program then in which selected UU and CalTech students could utilize the opportunities at the other school.), and Richard Feynman was one of his profs. I will try to remember to ask him if synesthesia ever came up in their conversations but right now he’s getting a night’s rest.
Night-Gaunt, i think that Jamie Lee Curtis has had a biological daughter, but woukd have to chevk. That ability is rare to non-existant in XY females. A uterine malformation and some other considerations tend to exist which usually (always?) make procreation impossible. The gender continuum is a fiekd of study i have not recently read a great deal about so i will have to try to hit PubMed and look for interesting and relevant abstracts and free articles (or ones in journals we can access) if my eye and schedule permit, but i kind of doubt she is XY. I think she just has a number of her dad’s features and wears them well in a sexy so ewhat androgynous way. BTW, there is a subset of XY females who have what is deemed “hyper-female” characteristics. That XY subset has been described as being very like some Victoria’s Secret models in some biological/medical discussions.
David, i lost friends in Vietnam, too. Near the tail end of that by a couple of years was when i was about the age of Luann and Quill and donating time helping people my age readjust to returning. It taught me a lot about patience. There were many hardships that had to be talked around by those who had suffered them for a long while before the people felt safe enough to share their burdens. Some never coukd do so. To this day i can not understand how some people can not treat vets with respect because i have cried with them.
Brdshtt, i love your post that ends with>After all these years, we still call each other several times during the day, ask each other out for dates, and pull nutty pranks on each other. I am thankful for every day, for each day truly is a gift, a new canvas waiting for you to paint something on it. Don’t leave it blank.It is a beautiful, perceptive read. The wonderful love stories shaping their lives that multiple people have shared here have been a great gift to all, i think!
I can not offhand recallwho mentioned microagression, but THANK YOU! I am taking a break from learning a bit about it because i really appreciate your making me aware of the category.
Argythree almost 9 years ago
And neither is listening to the other. No comfort to be derived…
luann1212 almost 9 years ago
I break my rule and comment early. Both are not noticing each other’s major issue, but then these are nuclear bombs to both of them. Plus Piro staying with Tiffany!!! Whoa Nellie! I think they will sort it out though. Except for Tiffany and Piro.
keema70 almost 9 years ago
I’m very curious about how Frank and Nancy are going to repay Mr. Gray.
JayBluE almost 9 years ago
The globe in the poster pic on the wall, looks pretty similar to the one from the “School House Rock” episodes about “Energy” and “Pollution”…
Argythree almost 9 years ago
-Two ships that pass in the dark of the night…
But, on the positive side, since both are absorbed in their own miseries, no snarking is happening…
Templo S.U.D. almost 9 years ago
they need help
kenhense almost 9 years ago
Bern who is so snarky with her friends is barely getting hatched into the real world.
Dobie Takahama almost 9 years ago
Puddles looks like he saw something that put him in a trance.
Namrepus almost 9 years ago
Puddles is the only one who’s not wrapped up in self-pity right now.
JayBluE almost 9 years ago
“A Dip Into The Skinny”“Do The Aftermath”“Highlights About Low Points”“Never Expected WhatchaSaid!”“Counting On A Recount”“The Deep End”“Postgame”“Breaking News, Broken Hearts”“Electric Stories” (♫)“Everybody’s Talkin’….” (♪)“I’m Dropping Bombs On Ya, Baby… " (♪)“Coming Clean About Dirty Laundry” or“Two Big Scoops”
Luanaphile almost 9 years ago
they actually are hearing each other, because they are women.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
It’ll get better in the end.If it isn’t better, it isn’t the end..They are friends and will eventually listen too..They both realize that the world isn’t as they wish and it is partly because of their actions.(You are the only thing you can change, or at least your actions and attitudes.)
Faith :) almost 9 years ago
Wow… lots of drama to the start of 2016. Can’t wait to see what Greg has next..Will Luann and Quill get back together and work things out?How will the Piro, Bern, Gunther, Tiff quadrangle be resolved?What does Mr. Grey want in return (miss berger)?How will Brad and Toni’s wedding turn out?.Tune in for what Greg has in store for 2016…
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
It will be interesting seeing what happens w Bernie over time. She for so long avoided risk by tightly following rules and plans, but now her life is becoming more freeform. Ultimately she needs that, but while she learns she has no idea how to weigh things, when to censor herself, etc. Most of the members of her past crowd are beyond that point, but people attain their life skills on their own timelines, and those vary considerably. Right now she and Luann have history that should continue their friendship, but each might need to grow in separate ways for a while before they understand each other well once again.
Airman almost 9 years ago
Every time I see Piro, I feel like I need to take a shower.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Argythree, excellent and perceptive summary.As an old fart in a long and excellent marriage i read the comments and sometimes happily think, “This person is perceptive enough that she or he probably also has a great relationship going, or will in the future.”, but the comments of others make me figure they might never have that joy and if they stick where they are then they will not even understand why, nor how they coukd have changed that. That part is rather sad, unless the people associate only with a narrow group of people or only one gender, or are asexual, but i do hope most other people can learn if they just decide to try, and i do think that most people do learn instead of glueing themselves in place.
Namrepus almost 9 years ago
“Quill gets deeply absorbed in whatever he’s doing for his career, and puts the personal side of his life on a back burner.”
Of course, he should sacrifice his future so that a young woman who, from all outward appearances, doesn’t have one can feel better about herself.
The Pro from Dover almost 9 years ago
This is very simple.
Luann: Quill do you love me?
Quill: Yes.
Luann: Then lose her or you will lose me. It’s your choice.
TCoT almost 9 years ago
Interesting how divisive Luann and Quill’s fight has been. Team Luann vs Team Quill.
Personally, I think they both need a bit of maturing.
Chrisdiaz801 almost 9 years ago
The dog is more focused to them right now.
Caldonia almost 9 years ago
Luann has somehow fit her fingers UNDER her eyebrows! -
(I bet someone will try to explain how she’s not actually doing that, in spite of the fact I’m clearly joking.)
Namrepus almost 9 years ago
Luann has somehow fit her fingers UNDER her eyebrows!
Well, her hair goes under her eyebrows all the time. Welcome to cartoon anatomy.
Caldonia almost 9 years ago
I’m with you. These past few days have proven that Quill’s no prize.
Sisyphos almost 9 years ago
Luann may have a touch of Peter Pan Syndrome, wanting things to remain as they have been in her youthful past. But she is now running into problems, big or small, of an adult world that she has not yet learned to cope with….
Mordock999 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
ENOUGH!Look, here’s a “backbone” for EACH of You.Insert It! GOOD!Now Luann? Go find Pru. Give her a well meaning, Assertive Slap, Then go find Pretty Boy. Give him BACK his STUPID Boomerang necklace thing back and tell him to get lost.Good, GOOD!
Now You BERN, Find the Campus Police and have them forcibly REMOVE Piro from school property and have him charged with trespassing since he’s obviously NOT a Student. Then have Tiffany expelled.
Finally both YOU and Luann go find Gunther. Make Yourselves satisfied and SHARE him! And live happily ever after!
Oh and get me a COFFEE…..,
OneTime59 almost 9 years ago
Of the relationships Greg and Karen Evans have shown over time from Dirk/Toni (“rescued” by Brad), newfound LuAnn/Quill/Prudence & Bernice/Piro?, Gunther/Rosa, Mrs. Berger/Mr. Gray, seems the only natural, compatible pairing is one we hardly ever see and they are Crystal and Knute. Knute’s character is so far out and flaky (male version of an airhead); Crystal’s character is so sensible and cynical that going with the “opposites attract” concept, Knute & Crystal really have an odd liking for each other.
Willywise52 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
@Mordock999 LOL.Sounds good but makes waaaay too much sense.Both these girls need something that Greg’s NOT gonna let them have.
FosterGrant almost 9 years ago
They’re women. They don’t want solutions, they just want to be heard.
Csummers almost 9 years ago
Happy New Year to L & B
King_Shark almost 9 years ago
keema70 said, about 7 hours ago“I’m very curious about how Frank and Nancy are going to repay Mr. Gray.”Maybe Evans will hold another audience poll to find out what the Trufans want and draw accordingly.
Meh~tdology, fka Pepelaputr almost 9 years ago
Schrodinger's Dog almost 9 years ago
I wonder how many days Luann and Bernice will talk past each other instead of listening.
Wallythe2 almost 9 years ago
Question..: Where is the Nutella and the Cookie Dough Ice Cream?
keema70 almost 9 years ago
They’re both wrong! Luann needs to find a career goal. She’s good with kids, can design sets, and probably has other skills and talents that haven’t come to light yet. Then maybe she won’t focus on the boyfriend so much. And the boyfriend? Since he grew up with distant parents who don’t seem to care where he goes or what he does, he’s terrible with intimacy. He’s more distant now than when he was in Australia. And by intimacy I don’t mean what goes on in the prop room!
cruiserd almost 9 years ago
Lu and Bern need to go to a convent. Pru is an opportunist and will get Mr. Grey to front the money to buy out the DeGroots. Quill is too full of himself and just needs to go away.If Luann is so good with set design, why did Frank let Pru make a deal. Oh, the decisions Karen has to make. Don’t think I care for this strip anymore….
Luanaphile almost 9 years ago
I just don’t see this as mature (Quill) vs. immature (Luann). I think Luann lacks the confidence to accept and express her needs, which makes her defensive. Quill is playing the hyper-rational card, which is emotionally dense and even bullying.
Pointspread almost 9 years ago
Get it while you can.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Sally Margaret, Thank you for the education! I did not know that Emerson poem, Give All to Love, and had to look it up.This strip in recent days keeps having an old song, Talk to Me, go through my mind. Apologies for not finding the lyricist’s name in my search. Here are some of the lyrics:You’re always in a great big hurry, grab a kiss and off you scurry.Off to there, and there to who knows where.I’d give the world and all creation for a little conversation, Just a word or two, how are things, what’s new?Please talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, Your magical kiss can take me just so far.Talk to me, talk to me, talk to me, Don’t leave me like this, dangling from a star.You set me all aflame and it’s so pleasin’, It would be a shame if you were only teasin’.So, my love, before I go, turn the light way down low, And talk to me, talk to me, talk to me.Before people make assumptions, this song is usually sung by a male.I am hoping that both Luann and Quill have some introspection in the strip, and know that with the strip’s history they will, but i can not see their relationship continuing as a romance. They are kids and kids grow a lot, often in different ways and rates. If they do not think about it, though, then neither will learn for the future, so i suspect that they will think. Quill will see that his work passion is now his focus. Luann will see that she learned to love unselfishly by being fully supportive of Quill. I think she will continue that support by saying goodbye to him even though she wants him. When people look only at her having reached her exploding point they are missing the big picture: that for many months she placed the welfare and happiness of someone else before her own without having that kindness even recognized. Later in life when she is in a relationship where both people want to put the other person first for the sake of each other as their own greatest joy, too, she will find what love can be.I strongly agree that it is time for Luann to learn to also love herself and blossom. Many of the characters are doing that in ways which so well echo real life. It can be a challenging process, but with enough introspection it has wonderful results.
Pointspread almost 9 years ago
“Quill metaphorically hit her in the mouth”? Being rational is "bullying? Really?
whiteaj almost 9 years ago
I’d have that look on my face too, Puddles.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
People tend to get what they work at, and what they work at tends to be what they value most. With kids that can be quite transient. Seeing where their lives are when they reach their 40s (which is — in my case was — a great decade because the people are usually still vibrantly healthy but also old enough to care far less how others assess them) coukd be an interesting gift at some point in the future.
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
It’s not entirely clear just what is bothering Bernice. Is she distressed that she can’t report Tiffany for violating a rule (since she violated it herself), or is she worried that her tightly run dorm will now fall apart with rules openly ignored (of course, Piro has been openly ignoring them for as long as we’ve seen him), or is she in fact “jealous” of Tiffany on account of the scarf incident? Insofar as we know, Piro just leaves scarves everywhere, rather than bestows them as tokens of affection. We haven’t see Piro express any interest whatsoever in either Bern or Tiff – just in their rooms, as places to crash.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Sally Margaret,
May others here work toward having the good fortune you and i have had in our own marriages. May they not only find someone who wants to place them first, but have grown enough to have placing their loved ones first be the focus they are fortunate to have in their own lives. Of course, realistically, there will be some who never get it, who just respond to things instead of thinking about those difficulties and their underpinnings, and who further limit their reach, vision, and goals by assuming that all relationships must be as incomplete as theirs. Sadly, some of the older ones will never realize that careers continue and are successful also when that support system exists, not only when the career is placed first. So, here is mostly hoping for the young ones here to learn! I do not know about you but the L&Q arc has me appreciating and thanking my hubby even more!
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Quill: “Luann is mad at me, and she won’t even tell me why! But I haven’t done anything!!! I think she’s jealous that we’re friends, Pru, but I’ve told her over and over that we’re just pals, and apparently she resents you anyway! I just don’t know what’s going on with her, and she won’t talk!!! How can I explain to her that there’s no reason for her to be angry, when she refuses to listen???”Pru: “There, there.” [Pours him a drink] “Tell me all about it. I’m listening.”And so it begins…
kaffekup almost 9 years ago
At least Puddles is listening; he’s looking at whomever is speaking.
ACTIVIST1234 almost 9 years ago
Communication. Yesterday’s strip shows how Qu and Lu are too self-centered to communicate. Today’s strip show how Bern and Lu are too self-absorbed to communicate.*Learning to listen. Learning to give & take. Major lessons for young adults.
ACTIVIST1234 almost 9 years ago
And it’s beautiful how the well-fortified “Happy” in yesterday’s strip could not be sustained, even with the pure physical force of dozens of staples. Good job, Team Evans!
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
When’s the New Year’s show at the Fuse? (We’ve already seen the New Year’s fireworks.)
ACTIVIST1234 almost 9 years ago
“She just has the wrong guy. Quill is not good for her or compatible with her….”*Sally M – You’re right, as of this year. They have grown and are growing apart. My hunch is they will separate for a number of years (as did Karen & her h.s. boyfriend) and reunite later after they both have grown.*Please note— only one “r” separates a boy friend from a boy fiend.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
As i was working on something it struck me that while i certainly can hope that others find the kind of joy that is in our relationship, i do not have the right to assume that form of happiness is optimal for all. Some people are better suited to other foci and goals, and for them those are probably more rewarding. It does mean that they might know a lot less about successful relationships while knowing much more about something else, kind of like the way that an engineer might know a bit of biology but far less than an actual biologist, with the reverse also being true.
mineresidents almost 9 years ago
So how and why is Tiffany at college? She’s always been the anti-intellectual of the group. Reading always limited to cosmetic labels.
Pointspread almost 9 years ago
Comparing their lack of communication, Quills career focus and Luann’s immaturity to Quills beating her until she bleeds? Lousy metaphor, in my opinion. Unfortunately some people do experience assaults. To compare that disgusting behavior to what is going on here? I don’t see it.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
@Night-Gaunt49“Chased him off? Who wants him?”.Luann does.And doesn’t.And does, but only with minor changes.Or doesn’t without minor changes.Or. . . .She’s complicated.He’s simple.We men are simple.Simply wunnerful.
terrieann.schmearer almost 9 years ago
Love hurtsLove scarsLove wounds and marksAny heart not tough or strong enoughTo take a lot of pain, take a lot of painLove is like a cloud, it holds a lot of rainLove hurts, (by Nazareth)
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
“His actions are the metaphor.”.Even though I disagree that his actions showed disinterest, I like your sentence.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
@Mordock999“Now You BERN, Find the Campus Police and have them forcibly REMOVE Piro from school property and have him charged with trespassing since he’s obviously NOT a Student. Then have Tiffany expelled.”.Or perhaps you might actually investigate further before doing something stupid.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
“it can’t be explained well in words—only in actions and pictures.”.I like pictures..Which calls to mind:We were enjoying a family gathering with my wife’s family yesterday.I was working the crossword puzzle.The clue was Author of “Bad Girls”Nobody knew, so I just said, "I’ll just Google “Bad Girls”. Whoah! You’ll never guess the offerings Google gave that one. Ah, here it is for the song."Surprisingly, the rest already guessed the primary offerings.Patsy explained, “David has no judgement.”
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
@DavidHuieGreen“Ultimatums never work that well when dating. Make up your own mind and act accordingly.”.True dat.Which is also why I suspect a certain presidential aspirant would make a poor president.He claims he would issue ultimata to Putin, a man who controls several nuclear explosive devices.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
Many times I had to suspend o s task to generate input from another.That works she you have to halt work for a time.The two halves of the brain are connected and the entire brain is involved in all tasks, even if PET scans show more function in some parts than others.Nonetheless, if I am concentrating, I often can’t hear anything else.If I am talking, I may not notice a driving hazard.Brains are finite (even mine!)..Edison was one of my heroes, but even he understood his near~deafness was one of his best helps.Fewer distractions.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
o s = one
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
“Sorry about the soapbox, but the brain is my “thing.” ".Sung to the tune of “If I only had a brain”[Stuck in both sides of my brain]
seismic-2 Premium Member almost 9 years ago
A year ago, Piro didn’t know Dez, either. Their connection was that they had a mutual friend (whom I don’t believe we’ve ever seen). Of course, that was last year, and maybe now they know each other (especially since Piro seems to be a “resident” of the dorm, without paying a board contract!).
Crash7 almost 9 years ago
“Gunther doesn’t seem to be right for her, either.”
Frankly, if I was Gunther, that ship would have sailed a long time ago. Eventually, even Gunther has to have noticed that Luann’s just not into him.
Crash7 almost 9 years ago
“Sorry about the soapbox, but the brain is my “thing.”
‘s ok. We didn’t read it. ;)
RolloTheGrouch almost 9 years ago
“Huge fight”? Looks more like Quill is saying “That b***h” is crazy! I don’t need this. I’m outta here.".
Seriously, though, the Evanses have created two real human dilemmas for these characters.
It turns out that Luann is not just fearful of losing Quill – she’s afraid losing hold of everything, including the attention of her family. Pru and The Fuse are holding everyone’s attention, and Luann feels she’s being taken taken for granted or ignored. Add her lack of direction, and she’s really lost. Sadly, at this point she has no one she can turn to; her “counselor” friend is no help, her clueless parents wouldn’t see what she’s upset about, and Pru IS the core of Luann’s worries. And she probably doesn’t want to hear what Dez’s cards have to say. (Maybe Toni, as someone suggested.)
And Miss Perfect is facing what happens when she and the real world don’t measure up to her rule-enforcing standards. Like Luann, she can’t tell anyone else her dilemma, as she would just get into worse trouble. (As a bonus, her fantasies about catching Piro’s attention seem to have crashed & burned.)
Will the Evanses give us story lines that work through these situations? Or will they just drop the whole thing, like Gunthie’s mommy-fixation? Only time — probably a LONG time — will tell.
Crash7 almost 9 years ago
Thank you for taking it in the spirit in which it was intended. Some folks online take offense at playful ribbing even if it is followed by a wink emoticon.
David Huie Green LoveJoyAndPeace almost 9 years ago
@DavidHuieGreen“Nobody thought the Scarcrow had a brain until he got a diploma. That’s the way it is sometimes!”.It was clear throughout the movie that he was smart, just as the tin man was tender hearted and the cowardly lion was brace for facing his fears.
.The scary thing about respect based on a diploma is the same as respect due to fame. Sometimes it isn’t deserved or is given in a matter unrelated to the field of the diploma or music industry or movies..President Johnson is on tape wanting to avoid involvement in Vietnam but was persuaded by Robert McNamara, in part because HE had degrees. Looking back, Johnson would’ve been better off going with his gut ~ And so would a number of my formerly living neighbors.
Airman almost 9 years ago
Two not-yet-mature teenagers taking comfort in their long established “safe place”, both talking but neither listening. They should pause, and tell each other what they are hearing. I want feedback from another’s prospective. The monologs should become a dialog, but, personally I do not believe that they have yet reached that level. Right now they are stagnated on “me.” Dr. Lucy, of Peanuts, would charge 5 cents for that observation.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Sally Margaret,My hubby is a physicist by education though in much of his work past he was an inventor for a major company. When people here use internet music and some other things they still are utilizing multiple patents that include his name. Wwhen he was at BNL a female researcher showed up. It seems tthat serious physicists and mathematicianns have a higher rate of synesthesia. His imposes areas off colors with sounds. To some extent like other synesthesics he lives onomonopia
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Sorry about the typing. I am getting delayed letter appearance and a hidden comments box on top of my eye being tired. Better rebooot. Anyway, i used nebulous wording. Steve hears certain sounds or good music and ses a light show of colors. Music is NEVER played wwhen he is driving.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Ah, there was a part of me that was hoping you would be the researcher who was there studying synesthesia, Sally Margaret. Yeah, long shot, but they happen sometimes. (The best one we know involved some friends when we were adult students, about 1980. A visiting professor from China traveled to see the U.S. And dropped in on Steve’s parents. While there the next door neighbors visited and Lloyd mentioned that his uncle had been a missionary teacher in China. His uncle turned out to be the most important pre-college teacher in our friend’s life, and he was still alive and satient in a nursing home a few states away. They were able to reach him by phone and pupil and teacher were able to reconnect decades after parting ways.)
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Seismic, part of my hubby’s undergrad education was at CalTech (There was a program then in which selected UU and CalTech students could utilize the opportunities at the other school.), and Richard Feynman was one of his profs. I will try to remember to ask him if synesthesia ever came up in their conversations but right now he’s getting a night’s rest.
Editman almost 9 years ago
What was the point of Frank and Nancy (or was it Fred and Kathy) opening up a gallery/night club, if we don’t get to see them using it?
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Night-Gaunt, i think that Jamie Lee Curtis has had a biological daughter, but woukd have to chevk. That ability is rare to non-existant in XY females. A uterine malformation and some other considerations tend to exist which usually (always?) make procreation impossible. The gender continuum is a fiekd of study i have not recently read a great deal about so i will have to try to hit PubMed and look for interesting and relevant abstracts and free articles (or ones in journals we can access) if my eye and schedule permit, but i kind of doubt she is XY. I think she just has a number of her dad’s features and wears them well in a sexy so ewhat androgynous way. BTW, there is a subset of XY females who have what is deemed “hyper-female” characteristics. That XY subset has been described as being very like some Victoria’s Secret models in some biological/medical discussions.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
David, i lost friends in Vietnam, too. Near the tail end of that by a couple of years was when i was about the age of Luann and Quill and donating time helping people my age readjust to returning. It taught me a lot about patience. There were many hardships that had to be talked around by those who had suffered them for a long while before the people felt safe enough to share their burdens. Some never coukd do so. To this day i can not understand how some people can not treat vets with respect because i have cried with them.
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
Brdshtt, i love your post that ends with>After all these years, we still call each other several times during the day, ask each other out for dates, and pull nutty pranks on each other. I am thankful for every day, for each day truly is a gift, a new canvas waiting for you to paint something on it. Don’t leave it blank.It is a beautiful, perceptive read. The wonderful love stories shaping their lives that multiple people have shared here have been a great gift to all, i think!
SukieCrandall Premium Member almost 9 years ago
I can not offhand recallwho mentioned microagression, but THANK YOU! I am taking a break from learning a bit about it because i really appreciate your making me aware of the category.
Homeboy1865 almost 9 years ago
I wonder if that’s a Luann comic posted on the wall beneath the orange poster.