For a term paper in the late 80s I took the contrary position on global warming because I didn’t know what to think. Even back then the data was abundantly clear that it was happening. If the energy sector hadn’t paid for contrary studies and pushed doubt out to the public, there would have been much less debate on whether it was occurring. You can call that campaign Fuel-anon.
The Earth has done a good job for millennia pumping carbon below the surface. Most efficiently, it just adds surface above the carbon. We just pull it back out again. Ain’t we smart! And Global Warming is much more accurate and descriptive. Show me any large areas that are now cooler than 100 years ago. And when the large ocean rivers change (e.g. Gulf Stream), rapid changes will result. I’ve grown old, but our descendants may not get that same opportunity.
Humans have always been lousy at long-range planning. If you can’t make a profit off something in the next 90 days it’s obviously worthless. (Voters want a candidate who promises to make the world perfect two days after being elected rather than a candidate who says it will take years and cooperation to improve things… So, clearly, no profit in long range planning.)
The ice will actually do that. It will cool the entire world, including the seas. This will reduce water vapor production, and thus the deposit of condensed fresh water inland. The lack of inland water resources will cause atmospheric warming and sea rise. The lack of atmospheric water vapor will result in elevated CO2 and CH4 levels, and reduced upper atmosphere O3 levels. The ice will last longest at the highest altitudes and latitudes, obviously. Ocean currents created by solar warming and contact of waters with polar ice will maintain the oceans at a consistent low temperature for thousands of years, inducing a steady atmospheric warming as glaciers recede and deserts form.
“I just don’t understand modern art. Are those wooly mammoth pizzles? Are those grinning teeth? I don’t care if Manny is an artist — he always has fertility symbols on his mind!”
According to testimony provided by the Texas Energy Commission who has a voice in the public school system. Children should NOT be taught climate change in school because it would frighten them and they are too stupid to understand it anyway.
Texas is the nation’s largest producer of school textbooks and therefore has the cheapest prices. So if a school district is strapped for funds – but like how likely is THAT? – they may buy them.
So there is a good chance your child will be taught Texas Science, Texas Geography (drilling and pipelines are good for the ecology), Texas math, Texas Biology (especially female reproductive rights) and Texas’ version of American history.
Wow. The ICe age ends 18,000 years ago – NATURALLY – and Wiley is still moronic enough to push the Man-made global warming hoax.
The fascists pushing the climate change alarmism seek depopulation, and end to carbon based energy, and end to food supplies and total control of every aspect of life of individuals throughout the world. The tools of the climate alarmism agenda (as above) are being to foist their fascist control structure.
Witness the Sri Lankans. Starving because the stopped chemical fertilizers to get a near perfect ESG score. Witness the Netherlands farmers protesting the same nonsense that will destroy food in Europe.
Actually, I’m thinking the discovery of electricity and how to control it is the problem. Many of the big earth changing and dangerous projects man has undergone in the last 100 years or so has been done to create electricity.
If only we had a global economy that didn’t decimate trees and instead made life a bit better for all instead of the <1%. And we planted a lot more trees too. Gotta do both.
We’ve added some 5 gigatons of fossil CO2 to the air. The oceans absorbed a lot of it turning them acidic and polluted. Those same oceans are heating up and absorbing less CO2 as they do. Eventually the oceans will be too warm to hold that CO2 and therefor freeing it once again into our air.
OK… I know there’s too much science in both of these for the fools but maybe the pretty pictures will get thru… or maybe not, but it’s worth it to the try I suppose. 8^/
And the problem is time… it’s the change in the rate of change that has occurred fairly recently that is scaring the folks that are capable of thinking rationally. It’s painfully obvious for anyone to see, you just have to be willing to see.
This deserves a pulitzer. Oh buy the way the earth ran much hotter than it is now for oh 300 or so million years during the age of dinos. We’ve been coming out of an ice age for the last 20000 years so of course it will get warmer. Be smart, Missouri is the next ocean front property.
David_the_CAD over 2 years ago
Problem is once the system starts, it is hard to get the process to stop.
Bilan over 2 years ago
It’s working.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
He’s got several (dozen) thousand years to go…
jvo over 2 years ago
They’re going to have to move to a higher cave.
sirbadger over 2 years ago
If you flip that upside down and pump CO2 into the ground, you’ll have the cure to global warming.
Cactus-Pete over 2 years ago
Just gotta head south and you’re set.
Heres Waldo over 2 years ago
His drawings on the wall scream of IKEA.
keenanthelibrarian over 2 years ago
Yep, that’ll do it.
Ricky Bennett over 2 years ago
He’s all fired up about it…
lalapalooza Premium Member over 2 years ago
algebra was so much simpler back then.
Matt Gilbert Premium Member over 2 years ago
Need to show a highway full of cars. All of the smokestacks are barely doing anything.
dogbreath84 over 2 years ago
For a term paper in the late 80s I took the contrary position on global warming because I didn’t know what to think. Even back then the data was abundantly clear that it was happening. If the energy sector hadn’t paid for contrary studies and pushed doubt out to the public, there would have been much less debate on whether it was occurring. You can call that campaign Fuel-anon.
The Earth has done a good job for millennia pumping carbon below the surface. Most efficiently, it just adds surface above the carbon. We just pull it back out again. Ain’t we smart! And Global Warming is much more accurate and descriptive. Show me any large areas that are now cooler than 100 years ago. And when the large ocean rivers change (e.g. Gulf Stream), rapid changes will result. I’ve grown old, but our descendants may not get that same opportunity.
JohnCL over 2 years ago
John D. Rockefeller’s distant antecedent.
LawrenceS over 2 years ago
Humans have always been lousy at long-range planning. If you can’t make a profit off something in the next 90 days it’s obviously worthless. (Voters want a candidate who promises to make the world perfect two days after being elected rather than a candidate who says it will take years and cooperation to improve things… So, clearly, no profit in long range planning.)
Brass Orchid Premium Member over 2 years ago
The ice will actually do that. It will cool the entire world, including the seas. This will reduce water vapor production, and thus the deposit of condensed fresh water inland. The lack of inland water resources will cause atmospheric warming and sea rise. The lack of atmospheric water vapor will result in elevated CO2 and CH4 levels, and reduced upper atmosphere O3 levels. The ice will last longest at the highest altitudes and latitudes, obviously. Ocean currents created by solar warming and contact of waters with polar ice will maintain the oceans at a consistent low temperature for thousands of years, inducing a steady atmospheric warming as glaciers recede and deserts form.
PraiseofFolly over 2 years ago
“I just don’t understand modern art. Are those wooly mammoth pizzles? Are those grinning teeth? I don’t care if Manny is an artist — he always has fertility symbols on his mind!”
dflak over 2 years ago
According to testimony provided by the Texas Energy Commission who has a voice in the public school system. Children should NOT be taught climate change in school because it would frighten them and they are too stupid to understand it anyway.
Texas is the nation’s largest producer of school textbooks and therefore has the cheapest prices. So if a school district is strapped for funds – but like how likely is THAT? – they may buy them.
So there is a good chance your child will be taught Texas Science, Texas Geography (drilling and pipelines are good for the ecology), Texas math, Texas Biology (especially female reproductive rights) and Texas’ version of American history.
Old Crusty over 2 years ago
And yet, the ice age ended without one factory being built. How dey do dat?
Free or Not? Premium Member over 2 years ago
Wow. The ICe age ends 18,000 years ago – NATURALLY – and Wiley is still moronic enough to push the Man-made global warming hoax.
The fascists pushing the climate change alarmism seek depopulation, and end to carbon based energy, and end to food supplies and total control of every aspect of life of individuals throughout the world. The tools of the climate alarmism agenda (as above) are being to foist their fascist control structure.
Witness the Sri Lankans. Starving because the stopped chemical fertilizers to get a near perfect ESG score. Witness the Netherlands farmers protesting the same nonsense that will destroy food in Europe.
enigmamz over 2 years ago
………4. Profit!!
vaughnrl2003 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Actually, I’m thinking the discovery of electricity and how to control it is the problem. Many of the big earth changing and dangerous projects man has undergone in the last 100 years or so has been done to create electricity.
Sgt. Snorkle over 2 years ago
Maybe that’s the way it happened
Display over 2 years ago
If only we had a global economy that didn’t decimate trees and instead made life a bit better for all instead of the <1%. And we planted a lot more trees too. Gotta do both.
mindjob over 2 years ago
here’s an idea: buy up a big chuck of farmland in the mid-west and convert it into apartments
Will E. Makeit Premium Member over 2 years ago
or stay in your caveman mentality and continue to vote Democrat?
Realimaginary1 Premium Member over 2 years ago
Is that a tsunami wave immediately to the right of the factory?
paul GROSS Premium Member over 2 years ago
Indeed the climate has been warming for the last 20,000 years. So I wonder why it started to warm and more importantly why did the last Ice Age start.
christelisbetty over 2 years ago
If we could harvest the energy of ignorance….it seems to be eternally renewable.
198.23.5.11 over 2 years ago
Nostradamus was in the stone age?
willie_mctell over 2 years ago
The campfire is the start.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] over 2 years ago
We’ve added some 5 gigatons of fossil CO2 to the air. The oceans absorbed a lot of it turning them acidic and polluted. Those same oceans are heating up and absorbing less CO2 as they do. Eventually the oceans will be too warm to hold that CO2 and therefor freeing it once again into our air.
jfthomas70 over 2 years ago
How about finding a use for all the extra CO2
rlaker22j over 2 years ago
Georgia has been trying to put a new nuclear plant online for years haven’t figured out where to plug it in
sml7291 Premium Member over 2 years ago
And a couple of obligatory xkcd’s:
https://xkcd.com/1732/
https://xkcd.com/2500/
OK… I know there’s too much science in both of these for the fools but maybe the pretty pictures will get thru… or maybe not, but it’s worth it to the try I suppose. 8^/
And the problem is time… it’s the change in the rate of change that has occurred fairly recently that is scaring the folks that are capable of thinking rationally. It’s painfully obvious for anyone to see, you just have to be willing to see.
jvscanlan Premium Member over 2 years ago
New anti climate science argument: We need more greenhouse gases to prevent the coming ice age
aikidoshi over 2 years ago
Factories didn’t bring about an end to the ice age, it was already ending – some would say ended – before the industrial age began.
pamela welch Premium Member over 2 years ago
Be careful what you wish for …
Sailor46 USN 65-95 over 2 years ago
Careful what you wish for, actions do have consequences.
cityconstable Premium Member over 2 years ago
This deserves a pulitzer. Oh buy the way the earth ran much hotter than it is now for oh 300 or so million years during the age of dinos. We’ve been coming out of an ice age for the last 20000 years so of course it will get warmer. Be smart, Missouri is the next ocean front property.