If you can teach like you say you can, it won’t matter how many are there. It’s when you can’t teach that a class of ten won’t pass, and THAT is the problem we have today, yet they keep demanding higher salaries, because they are “TEACHERS”.
Gee, I remember Freshman Chem & physics classes with up to 400. Could have heard a pin drop. Maybe because we all were paying to hear that professor.
, not ask asinine questions that were answered in the assignment we had done ahead of time.
Later when taking a 400 Eng course, the professor announced the 8 papers due as she handed out the syllabus. Six of us had a wonderful interactive semester.There are ways to cut class size.
There were 57 students in my 5th grade class back in the 1948-1949 school year and my teacher, who had not even completed her college degree yet, seemed to be able to manage just fine. I learned more from her than from any of my other elementary teachers.
Lewreader–I’ve had some large college classes, specifically the basic biology class that was required for graduation no matter what your major, and the ever-popular psychology of human sexuality that was not required, but 95% of students took it anyway. However, that was college. Way different than 100+ kids in a fifth grade class. I grew up in a small town, and the biggest class I was ever in had about 25 people. Having worked in an elementary school, I can say from experience that’s about as big as they should get. Especially with all the behavioral problems today’s kids seem to have. I don’t know how a teacher could control any more than that! Kids just aren’t as respectful as they used to be, and teachers suffer a lot.
I dare anyone to come into the middle school where I work and see what goes on there everyday and survive. There are kids running around the halls and in and out of the classroooms ( and NO we can’t stop them, touch them, “harrass them” in any way), fights, windows broken, teachers cursed at, food and garbage thrown at us and around the halls - the kids bring food from the outside and throw it around, spit it out on the floor. It’s not the teachers’ fault - its the administration - there are no consequences for their behavior - at school or at home. We try to teach but most of the time you are trying to maintain order-half my class have probation officers and they are only 12 years old! So MrsLukeSkywalker and stebon, kindly keep your mouth shut until you’ve walked a day in my shoes.
i_am_the_jam over 14 years ago
American Public Schools. Gotta love ‘em…
mrslukeskywalker over 14 years ago
If you can teach like you say you can, it won’t matter how many are there. It’s when you can’t teach that a class of ten won’t pass, and THAT is the problem we have today, yet they keep demanding higher salaries, because they are “TEACHERS”.
The Duke 1 over 14 years ago
Good training for when you grow up and go to prison!
Yukoneric over 14 years ago
Two years ago I only had two students who were not on probation or parole. Adult education is something else these days.
lewisbower over 14 years ago
Gee, I remember Freshman Chem & physics classes with up to 400. Could have heard a pin drop. Maybe because we all were paying to hear that professor. , not ask asinine questions that were answered in the assignment we had done ahead of time.
Later when taking a 400 Eng course, the professor announced the 8 papers due as she handed out the syllabus. Six of us had a wonderful interactive semester.There are ways to cut class size.
charlesedwardpasley over 14 years ago
There were 57 students in my 5th grade class back in the 1948-1949 school year and my teacher, who had not even completed her college degree yet, seemed to be able to manage just fine. I learned more from her than from any of my other elementary teachers.
notinksanymore over 14 years ago
Lewreader–I’ve had some large college classes, specifically the basic biology class that was required for graduation no matter what your major, and the ever-popular psychology of human sexuality that was not required, but 95% of students took it anyway. However, that was college. Way different than 100+ kids in a fifth grade class. I grew up in a small town, and the biggest class I was ever in had about 25 people. Having worked in an elementary school, I can say from experience that’s about as big as they should get. Especially with all the behavioral problems today’s kids seem to have. I don’t know how a teacher could control any more than that! Kids just aren’t as respectful as they used to be, and teachers suffer a lot.
jpozenel over 14 years ago
We had between 40 and 50 kids in our grade school classes. We had no problems.
Of course having nuns roaming the aisles armed with steel-edged rulers might have made the difference!
RadioTom over 14 years ago
These kids all ride my bus…
captainedd over 14 years ago
Good gravy, that must be one big bus!
RadioTom over 14 years ago
Yep! And then there’s the rest of the K-6 group that I haul…
@jtpozenel: I don’t think it was the nuns rulers as much as it was the old man’s BELT once we got home… because Sister WOULD make the call…
speechteach over 14 years ago
I dare anyone to come into the middle school where I work and see what goes on there everyday and survive. There are kids running around the halls and in and out of the classroooms ( and NO we can’t stop them, touch them, “harrass them” in any way), fights, windows broken, teachers cursed at, food and garbage thrown at us and around the halls - the kids bring food from the outside and throw it around, spit it out on the floor. It’s not the teachers’ fault - its the administration - there are no consequences for their behavior - at school or at home. We try to teach but most of the time you are trying to maintain order-half my class have probation officers and they are only 12 years old! So MrsLukeSkywalker and stebon, kindly keep your mouth shut until you’ve walked a day in my shoes.
Coyoty Premium Member over 14 years ago
Go to the Principal’s auditorium right now!