Why? Maybe because even Arius would agree with those sentiments. Heck, even Valentinus would. Probably Simon Magus, too. Whosoever will be saved: before all thinges it is necessarye that he holde the Catholyke fayth. Whiche fayth except every one dooe kepe holy and undefyled: without doubt he shal perishe everlastingly. And the Catholike faith is this: that we wurship one God in Trinitie, and Trinitie in unitie. Neyther confounding the persones: nor devidyng the substaunce. For there is one persone of the father, another of the sonne: and an other of the holy gost. But the godhead of the father, of the sonne, and of the holy Goste, is all one: the glorye equall, the majestie coeternall. Such as the father is, suche is the sonne, and suche is the holy gost. The father uncreate, the sonne uncreate: and the holy gost uncreate. The father incomprehensible, the sonne incomprehensible and the holy gost incomprehensible. The father eternall, the sonne eternall: and the holy gost eternall. And yet they are not three eternalles: but one eternall. As also there be not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated: but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible. So lykewyse, the father is almyghtie: the sonne almightie, and the holy gost almightie. And yet are they not three almyghtyes: but one almightie. So the father is God, the sonne God: and the holye gost God. And yet are they not three Goddes: but one God. So lykewise the father is Lord, the sonne Lord: and the holy gost Lorde. And yet not three Lordes: but one Lorde. For like as we be compelled by the christian veritie: to acknowlege every persone by hymselfe to be god & lord: So are we forbidden by the Catholike religion: to say there be three goddes, or three lordes. The father is made of none: neyther created nor begotten. The sonne is of the father alone: not made nor created, but begotten. The holy gost is of the father and of the sonne: neyther made nor created, nor begotten, but proceding. So there is one father, not three fathers; one sonne, not three sonnes: one holy gost, not three holy gostes. And in thys trinitie none is afore nor after other: none greater nor lesse then other. But the whole three persones: be coeternall together and coequall. So that in all thinges, as it is aforesayd: the unitie in trinitie, and the trinitie in unitie is to be wurshipped. He therefore that will bee saved: must thus thinke of the trinitie. Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvacion: that he also beleve ryghtly in the incarnacion of oure Lorde Jesu Christe. For the ryght fayth is that we beleve and confesse: that our Lorde Jesus Christe the sonne of God, is God and man; God of the substaunce of the father, begotten before the worldes: and man of the substaunce of his mother, borne in the worlde. Perfecte God, and perfecte man: of a resonable soule, and humayne fleshe subsisting. Equall to the father as touchyng his Godhead: and inferior to the father touchyng his manhoode. Who although he be God and man: yet he is not two, but one Christe. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh: but by takyng of the manhoode into God; One altogether, not by confusion of substaunce: but by unitie of person. For as the reasonable soule and fleshe is one man: So God and man is one Christe. Who suffered for oure salvacion: descended into hell, rose agayne the third daye from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sytteth on the right hand of the father, God almighty: from whence he shall come to judge the quicke and dead. At whose commyng all men shall ryse agayne with theyr bodyes: and shall geve accompt of theyr owne workes. And they that have done good, shall goe into life everlastyng: and they that have done evyll, into everlastyng fyre. This is the Catholyke fayth: whiche excepte a man beleve faythfully, he cannot be saved. Glory be to the father, and to the sonne, &c. As it was in the begynnyng, &c. —Translation by Cranmer, 1549
This is America—-the land of the free.On this day, we commemorate all the people who sacrificed to keep us free.Free to believe whatever religion, or non- belief you wish. Free, thanks to our HEROES!!!
We should all let the other guy have his beliefs, just as we hold our own beliefs sacred.
Templo S.U.D. over 10 years ago
Uh… amen to that, Hal A. Luyah.
John W Kennedy Premium Member over 10 years ago
Why? Maybe because even Arius would agree with those sentiments. Heck, even Valentinus would. Probably Simon Magus, too. Whosoever will be saved: before all thinges it is necessarye that he holde the Catholyke fayth. Whiche fayth except every one dooe kepe holy and undefyled: without doubt he shal perishe everlastingly. And the Catholike faith is this: that we wurship one God in Trinitie, and Trinitie in unitie. Neyther confounding the persones: nor devidyng the substaunce. For there is one persone of the father, another of the sonne: and an other of the holy gost. But the godhead of the father, of the sonne, and of the holy Goste, is all one: the glorye equall, the majestie coeternall. Such as the father is, suche is the sonne, and suche is the holy gost. The father uncreate, the sonne uncreate: and the holy gost uncreate. The father incomprehensible, the sonne incomprehensible and the holy gost incomprehensible. The father eternall, the sonne eternall: and the holy gost eternall. And yet they are not three eternalles: but one eternall. As also there be not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated: but one uncreated, and one incomprehensible. So lykewyse, the father is almyghtie: the sonne almightie, and the holy gost almightie. And yet are they not three almyghtyes: but one almightie. So the father is God, the sonne God: and the holye gost God. And yet are they not three Goddes: but one God. So lykewise the father is Lord, the sonne Lord: and the holy gost Lorde. And yet not three Lordes: but one Lorde. For like as we be compelled by the christian veritie: to acknowlege every persone by hymselfe to be god & lord: So are we forbidden by the Catholike religion: to say there be three goddes, or three lordes. The father is made of none: neyther created nor begotten. The sonne is of the father alone: not made nor created, but begotten. The holy gost is of the father and of the sonne: neyther made nor created, nor begotten, but proceding. So there is one father, not three fathers; one sonne, not three sonnes: one holy gost, not three holy gostes. And in thys trinitie none is afore nor after other: none greater nor lesse then other. But the whole three persones: be coeternall together and coequall. So that in all thinges, as it is aforesayd: the unitie in trinitie, and the trinitie in unitie is to be wurshipped. He therefore that will bee saved: must thus thinke of the trinitie. Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvacion: that he also beleve ryghtly in the incarnacion of oure Lorde Jesu Christe. For the ryght fayth is that we beleve and confesse: that our Lorde Jesus Christe the sonne of God, is God and man; God of the substaunce of the father, begotten before the worldes: and man of the substaunce of his mother, borne in the worlde. Perfecte God, and perfecte man: of a resonable soule, and humayne fleshe subsisting. Equall to the father as touchyng his Godhead: and inferior to the father touchyng his manhoode. Who although he be God and man: yet he is not two, but one Christe. One, not by conversion of the Godhead into flesh: but by takyng of the manhoode into God; One altogether, not by confusion of substaunce: but by unitie of person. For as the reasonable soule and fleshe is one man: So God and man is one Christe. Who suffered for oure salvacion: descended into hell, rose agayne the third daye from the dead. He ascended into heaven, he sytteth on the right hand of the father, God almighty: from whence he shall come to judge the quicke and dead. At whose commyng all men shall ryse agayne with theyr bodyes: and shall geve accompt of theyr owne workes. And they that have done good, shall goe into life everlastyng: and they that have done evyll, into everlastyng fyre. This is the Catholyke fayth: whiche excepte a man beleve faythfully, he cannot be saved. Glory be to the father, and to the sonne, &c. As it was in the begynnyng, &c. —Translation by Cranmer, 1549
noreenklose over 10 years ago
This is America—-the land of the free.On this day, we commemorate all the people who sacrificed to keep us free.Free to believe whatever religion, or non- belief you wish. Free, thanks to our HEROES!!!
We should all let the other guy have his beliefs, just as we hold our own beliefs sacred.
bopard over 10 years ago
Who let that heckler in the comment section? .JK ?Have you read Justin Martyr in classic latin? Or do you specialize in Carolingian?