In Australia the huge distances are traveled by airplane, train, and “road train” trucks aimed at better fuel efficiency. Yes, we still have to use it, but the companies have spent decades encouraging the U.S. folks to abuse that use, called wasting it for their profit. Plastics, timber production, farming- fertilizer and pesticides, lubricants, and many chemical derivatives, not just gas and diesel, suck huge amounts of oil.
In the old days in California, the goal of using electric cars and mass transit was subverted by the oil industry. Now we have the Marcelles natural gas shale and looking at the possibility of gas generated power which would be cleaner. However, the so called boom box generator, that now costs $500,000 has the potential to be the best and safest for the environment. The natural gas extraction has plenty of risks to the envrionment. And people living next to processing plants are up in arms, with good reason.
“But on the other hand what is so wrong with using what we got and finding more”
HQ, it would be fine if it worked in practice. However, in practice the “finding more” part is getting sidelined, as it a) costs money and b) is not necessary just right now (as in, in this instant). That is why it should be focused on more - it might not be that important today, but we should have it done by tomorrow.
Besides, there’s always the matter of, if all else fails, having reserves. This oil is not going anywhere - why not keep it for when it is more important, like if global reserves go critical and there is no immediate solution?
Jaedabee Premium Member about 14 years ago
“Fear hate and ignorance are a dangerous things.”
Aren’t they , though.Jascat about 14 years ago
Fear hate and ignorance are a dangerous things.
I see nothing to fear here. I see no one to hate, either..but then again, I AM one of the ignorant left wing…
Charles Brobst Premium Member about 14 years ago
Oil must and will decline. Unless we keep pace with the times and transition to wind and solar ASAP, the USA will become a has been.
Simon_Jester about 14 years ago
Naw harley, it’s not that serious…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did-S6XbpMM
It’s just overblown hype from the durty, lib’rul media
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxgbvDcmrYQ
Gloom and doom, that’s all it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlPPFcy-3Vo
And HOW much did you want for the Brooklyn Bridge again?
http://www.wkrg.com/gulfoilspill/article/names-of-11-oil-rig-workers-killed-in-explosion/882662/May-02-2010_11-22-pm/
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
Oil is to society what crack is to bums. and you ^ speak like an addict in denial.
JPTewel about 14 years ago
Harleyquinn must have stock in BP.
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
^Nope. I’m as addicted as everybody else. But not in denial. If we want to kick that addiction, we’ll have to do it together. But some won’t admit it.
zekedog55 about 14 years ago
hq supplies my addiction for Bushisms these days.
Dtroutma about 14 years ago
In Australia the huge distances are traveled by airplane, train, and “road train” trucks aimed at better fuel efficiency. Yes, we still have to use it, but the companies have spent decades encouraging the U.S. folks to abuse that use, called wasting it for their profit. Plastics, timber production, farming- fertilizer and pesticides, lubricants, and many chemical derivatives, not just gas and diesel, suck huge amounts of oil.
Simon_Jester about 14 years ago
A rather interesting exercise is to take the logic harlyquinn is employing here and apply it to history….
Fr’instance…WHY do we call the sinking of the Titanic a disaster? Do you know how many ships DIDN”T hit icebergs in 1912? Gloom and doom!
And Lincoln was only shot ONE day in his entire Presidency! How can you call that a tragedy?
And 9/11 wasn’t so bad. Given total number of skyscrapers in America and the total population of this country, why the damage was only minimal.
deadheadzan about 14 years ago
In the old days in California, the goal of using electric cars and mass transit was subverted by the oil industry. Now we have the Marcelles natural gas shale and looking at the possibility of gas generated power which would be cleaner. However, the so called boom box generator, that now costs $500,000 has the potential to be the best and safest for the environment. The natural gas extraction has plenty of risks to the envrionment. And people living next to processing plants are up in arms, with good reason.
Jascat about 14 years ago
harleyquinn: I was speaking sarcastically; guess you didn’t catch on to that…
CorosiveFrog Premium Member about 14 years ago
dtroutma; Exactly! We’ll always need oil, that’s no excuse for those who practically put it on their cereal!
4uk4ata about 14 years ago
“But on the other hand what is so wrong with using what we got and finding more”
HQ, it would be fine if it worked in practice. However, in practice the “finding more” part is getting sidelined, as it a) costs money and b) is not necessary just right now (as in, in this instant). That is why it should be focused on more - it might not be that important today, but we should have it done by tomorrow.
Besides, there’s always the matter of, if all else fails, having reserves. This oil is not going anywhere - why not keep it for when it is more important, like if global reserves go critical and there is no immediate solution?