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Girl: Hey! Our grading scale goes from A to E. A musical scale goes from A to G. The system we're judged by is less nuanced than the average AC/DC song. How messed up is that? Frazz: Don't think eight notes. Think three chords.
FOUR chords, Frazz⊠four. You write hist yourself⊠surely you know that most any big hit can be written using the same four chords? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
Peterhuppertz, actually almost all songs in rock, blues or country are written in 3 chords,,,,Itâs called a 1,4,5 structure. âŠPick a chord, say EâŠ.Play E, then play A,and for the turn around plat B then A then E
When I went to school (40+ years ago), we had A-B-C-D-F for coursework, and E-S-U (excellent, satisfactory, and unsatisfactory) for âcitizenshipâ and âwork habitsâ, so for each class youâd get something like âB-S-Eâ.
You couldnât very well have an âEâ standing for âfailâ in the first column and âexcellentâ in the second and third.
The reason that 3 chords (G/C/D7) is enough, is that if you sing a song using the standard 8 notes (do,re,mi, etc.), one of the three chords matches to each of the notes. However, there are other chords that could be used to match the notes, and if you use an alternate chord you can create different moods, perhaps, haunting, or mysterious. Since pop music generally isnât trying to create odd moods, they usually stick to the main line chords.
One example of a group that broke away from the standard three chords was The Beatles, who did some much more interesting things. Consider âwhen Iâm 64â, where the tab Iâm looking at, besides G/C/D includes C#dim, E7, A7, B, and Am among others. Also consider âSweet Dreamsâ by the Eurythmics, and you can see the different/mysterious mood that they created by getting away from the standard chords.
If you want to really get away from the normal sound, consider modal music. The standard do,re,me pattern is found by using the white keys only going from C to C. What happens if you use only the white keys going from some other starting point? Then you end up with âmodalâ music, a whole other subject. Irish music does this a lot, and the Beatles also used this, for example, in âWith a little help from my friendsâ.
Carl RThat doesnât even get into pentatonic scale (bagpipes, much of Celtic folk music including Appalachian), or even more complex, Indian classical ragas where one choose five or six notes from 31 possible in an octave.
1960â62 I went to a school that scored AâE. More than anything else, I think itâs just a question of people with OCD not being able to tolerate that gap.
When I was a little kid, the grades were:E xcellentS atisfactoryN eeds improvementU nsatisfactory
E S N U for me, too. I didnât follow the you-tube links, but suspect it is the illustration of all the different songs that are basically Pachebelâs Canon in D. Remarkable!
My High School did the A, B, C, D, F but added 1, 2 or 3 for the amount of effort the teacher thought you put into the class. So you could get an A3 if you got good grades but the teacher thought you didnât need to make much effort or you could get an F1 if you failed, but were trying. I never got one of the latter, but thought it would be a bit insulting. Yes, you flunked but I know you canât do any better.
My primary school (1955-60) used E-S-N-U for lower grades and A-F for the higher. One student joined us mid-year from another country. He had been sick, and his previous teacher had written âABSENTâ on his last report card. Our teacher asked him what a âTâ meant!
Paul McCartney once told an interviewer how much the Beatles, he and John in particular, respected the work of Buddy Holly. He thought it was sheer genius how expressive Holly was with only three chords, A, D and E. âWe knew those chords,â he told the interviewer, âand we were working on B7.âCuriously, in his song âEarly 1970,â Ringo sang, âI play guitar A, D, E. I donât play bass âcause itâs too hard for me. I play the piano if itâs in C. And when I go to town, you know I wanna see all three.â
Bilan about 9 years ago
A to E? Did they change the grading system?
peter about 9 years ago
FOUR chords, Frazz⊠four. You write hist yourself⊠surely you know that most any big hit can be written using the same four chords? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pidokakU4I
peter about 9 years ago
Dammit. âYou write hiTSâ. ;-)
Bilan about 9 years ago
This is why schools are Hawaii are so great. There is B, C, D or F in the Hawaiian language. That leaves only As.
Varnes about 9 years ago
Peterhuppertz, actually almost all songs in rock, blues or country are written in 3 chords,,,,Itâs called a 1,4,5 structure. âŠPick a chord, say EâŠ.Play E, then play A,and for the turn around plat B then A then E
ShadowBeast Premium Member about 9 years ago
I guess they replaced F with E so the kidâs wouldnât get upset for failing. But get an E for effort.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member about 9 years ago
at her age I was mostly a flat.
pshapley Premium Member about 9 years ago
When I went to school (40+ years ago), we had A-B-C-D-F for coursework, and E-S-U (excellent, satisfactory, and unsatisfactory) for âcitizenshipâ and âwork habitsâ, so for each class youâd get something like âB-S-Eâ.
You couldnât very well have an âEâ standing for âfailâ in the first column and âexcellentâ in the second and third.
Carl R about 9 years ago
The reason that 3 chords (G/C/D7) is enough, is that if you sing a song using the standard 8 notes (do,re,mi, etc.), one of the three chords matches to each of the notes. However, there are other chords that could be used to match the notes, and if you use an alternate chord you can create different moods, perhaps, haunting, or mysterious. Since pop music generally isnât trying to create odd moods, they usually stick to the main line chords.
One example of a group that broke away from the standard three chords was The Beatles, who did some much more interesting things. Consider âwhen Iâm 64â, where the tab Iâm looking at, besides G/C/D includes C#dim, E7, A7, B, and Am among others. Also consider âSweet Dreamsâ by the Eurythmics, and you can see the different/mysterious mood that they created by getting away from the standard chords.
If you want to really get away from the normal sound, consider modal music. The standard do,re,me pattern is found by using the white keys only going from C to C. What happens if you use only the white keys going from some other starting point? Then you end up with âmodalâ music, a whole other subject. Irish music does this a lot, and the Beatles also used this, for example, in âWith a little help from my friendsâ.
vwdualnomand about 9 years ago
and, the constant standardized testing.
hippogriff about 9 years ago
Carl RThat doesnât even get into pentatonic scale (bagpipes, much of Celtic folk music including Appalachian), or even more complex, Indian classical ragas where one choose five or six notes from 31 possible in an octave.
Mary E Abdill Premium Member about 9 years ago
And hexadecimal (base 16), widely used in computer data storage, uses both E and F (A thru F), but no G.
John W Kennedy Premium Member about 9 years ago
1960â62 I went to a school that scored AâE. More than anything else, I think itâs just a question of people with OCD not being able to tolerate that gap.
When I was a little kid, the grades were:E xcellentS atisfactoryN eeds improvementU nsatisfactory
Stephen Gilberg about 9 years ago
Eight? Donât you mean seven?
david_reaves Premium Member about 9 years ago
E S N U for me, too. I didnât follow the you-tube links, but suspect it is the illustration of all the different songs that are basically Pachebelâs Canon in D. Remarkable!
Saucy1121 Premium Member about 9 years ago
My High School did the A, B, C, D, F but added 1, 2 or 3 for the amount of effort the teacher thought you put into the class. So you could get an A3 if you got good grades but the teacher thought you didnât need to make much effort or you could get an F1 if you failed, but were trying. I never got one of the latter, but thought it would be a bit insulting. Yes, you flunked but I know you canât do any better.
JP Steve Premium Member about 9 years ago
My primary school (1955-60) used E-S-N-U for lower grades and A-F for the higher. One student joined us mid-year from another country. He had been sick, and his previous teacher had written âABSENTâ on his last report card. Our teacher asked him what a âTâ meant!
PBody66 about 9 years ago
An E allowed you to go to summer school, while an F meant you had to repeat the course, in PA. It was changed to help students to move along.
K M about 9 years ago
Paul McCartney once told an interviewer how much the Beatles, he and John in particular, respected the work of Buddy Holly. He thought it was sheer genius how expressive Holly was with only three chords, A, D and E. âWe knew those chords,â he told the interviewer, âand we were working on B7.âCuriously, in his song âEarly 1970,â Ringo sang, âI play guitar A, D, E. I donât play bass âcause itâs too hard for me. I play the piano if itâs in C. And when I go to town, you know I wanna see all three.â
neatslob Premium Member about 9 years ago
They should use O-E-A-P-D-T.
FrankTAW over 1 year ago
Thereâs a similar discrepancy in grade point averages. Some schools use 0 to 4, while others are 1 to 5.