One Big Happy by Rick Detorie for August 31, 2010

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    kab2rb  over 14 years ago

    Awe Ruthie. Iā€™m adult and my mom who is very much alive works both of us.

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    peter0423  over 14 years ago

    Ruthie and her mom have a great relationship. :)

    From yesterday (I donā€™t usually postdate discussions, and I promise Iā€™ll try not to do it again):

    mrprongs said, about 12 hours ago:

    Sorry Ruthie, but your faith decrees that since Suzette never accepted jesus as he lord and savior, sheā€™s burning in Hell right now.

    If youā€™re going to snark at someoneā€™s religious beliefs, at least try not to embarrass yourself with absurdities. Christianity has never, in any of its variations, taught that salvation concerns plant life. A tree canā€™t choose, by free will, to disobey God (it canā€™t even shoo away a passing dog, after all); which means, by definition, it canā€™t sin; which means it doesnā€™t need saving.

    Being ignorant and mean-spirited are not a flattering combination.

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    alviebird  over 14 years ago

    I didnā€™t see it as mean spirited, just a misguided attempt to be a bit of a pedant, by someone who doesnā€™t really understand the concept of sin. I thought about commenting but didnā€™t want to start a debate.

    So ignorant, yes. Mean spirited, maybe not.

    Before anyone get insulted, there is nothing wrong with being ignorant, only with choosing to stay that way.

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    hopeandjoy2  over 14 years ago

    I would think mrprongs isnā€™t generally ignorantā€¦and probably could share information on subjects of which I know little but would appreciate learning from his/her perspective..

    It is troublesome for me to attach atā€labelā€ to anyone so I try not to do this because it could hurt.

    This little comic has a gentleness about it I like.

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    alviebird  over 14 years ago

    We are all ignorant in some matters, no matter how much know.

    I didnā€™t attach a label of general ignorance, just in the one subject. And it is a difficult subject.

    Donā€™t try to attach a derogatory meaning to the word. I suppose we could have used ā€˜uninformedā€™, but it means exactly the same thing.

    ā€“adjective 1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man. 2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics. 3. uninformed; unaware. 4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

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    peter0423  over 14 years ago

    I, myself, know quite a bit about a few things; I know something about rather more things; and Iā€™m utterly ignorant of the vast majority of things. Being ignorant doesnā€™t bother me, unless I want to express an opinion ā€“ then I either learn enough to be entitled to an opinion, or I keep my peace. In any case, Iā€™m okay with being called ignorant when it appliesā€¦fair is fair.

    That being said, I think Iā€™ll pass on apologizing to mrprongs for what I posted. Iā€™m sorry if he took offense, of course, but consider what he said. Either heā€™s genuinely ignorant of what Christianity teaches, but chose to make a joke about something that other people care deeply about anyway, which was certainly ill-considered and unavoidably rude. Alternatively, he knows what Christianity teaches, and chose to misrepresent it in a deliberately insulting way. I have to add that he also chose to mock the naive faith of a child with a remark that, had he said it to an actual childā€™s face, would have been unspeakably cruel.

    So Iā€™ll stick with ā€œignorant and mean-spiritedā€. All things considered, I think those were charitable words. If you think Iā€™m wrong, Iā€™d be happy to be corrected, and Iā€™ll apologize then.

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    hopeandjoy2  over 14 years ago

    Hi, theBird55 I agree with your statement ā€ that we are all ignorant in some matters, no matter how much we know.ā€ Nor do I believe you were handing out labels in this case.

    Communication, especially when we cannot ā€œseeā€ the other person or hear the voice is made more difficult. (sigh)

    Maybe it is best for me to refrain from further comments of this type and follow your thoughts about ā€œnot wanting to start a debate.ā€ No offense meant to be given; None taken.

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    alviebird  over 14 years ago

    I know what you mean. I hope you didnā€™t read any harsh tones in my post, because they certainly werenā€™t intended. I was just trying to clarify my previous statement.

    Actually, my original post was about a conscious choice, on my part, to believe it was ignorance, as opposed to malice. Rose colored glasses and all that.

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    hopeandjoy2  over 14 years ago

    : )

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