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Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for September 02, 2010
Transcript:
Melissa: Chaplain? Got a moment? Woman: Of course, Melissa - come on in! How's the NCO life? Melissa: It's challenging. I'm not getting a lot of buy-in from my teammates. Woman: Why not? Melissa: Not sure, ma'am. It could be the increased tempo of the ops. Or maybe it's just my leadership style. Woman: Which is what? Melissa: My way or my way. Woman: So you do give them a choice?
ksoskins over 14 years ago
People in the military who complain that they would do their job if they had better supervision after they get a new NCO make you wonder what their excuse was with the previous NCO. Since Melissaâs unit apparently knew how to do their jobs before she took over, how did they become stupid and ignorant overnight, and why is that her fault?
margueritem over 14 years ago
I agree with both of youâŠ
Donald Benson Premium Member over 14 years ago
Any vets or current troops out there? Iâm wondering if Trudeau is talking about something thatâs big to active soldiers but reads like simple office politics to us civilians. A while ago I was going through a book of Bill Mauldinâs WWII cartoons, and many were downright puzzling without footnotes explaining the context.
alviebird over 14 years ago
Sheik,
Nothing changed. But the crew assumed that things would change. That things would get easier. They should have known better.
Disappointment is breeding discontent.
wetidlerjr over 14 years ago
Never underestimate the power of a comicâŠ.
Sandfan over 14 years ago
Leadership is an innate trait, not a legally conferred right. In smaller units, particularly in combat, troops look to the person who is going to give them the best chance of surviving and/or succeeding, and that is not always the person designated as leader by higher authority.
asa4ever over 14 years ago
When I was promoted just because there was an opening and I was next in line, I only had problems with my friends. They acted as if they received promotions too. I had a choice of putting up with it or not. NOT.
Potrzebie over 14 years ago
This essentially boils down to the mission or troop welfare. Itâs a catch 22. Sure, the choppers need to be up in the air by 1300, but how long have they been at work? Do they get days off? While I was in the sandtrap it was 0800 to 2000 (and I was the first to leave) and we only had Friday morning off (until 1200 hrs). BUt I had a desk job. During the first oil war, as a deployed Marine, we trained every single day without any days off until we arrived to the Gulf and did our first field-ex.
Wildcard24365 over 14 years ago
And it is interesting that Mel at least has the insight to ask, âmaybe itâs me?â
anne-marie hunter over 14 years ago
Military or private sector, doesn;t matter. The adjustment is with the team in dealing with Mel as a superior now. Friendship can only interfere. The military is very good about separating this out. Private sector less so. In the provate sector, depending on the company management, too much office politics can occur, leading to disaster for he newly promoted. My particular favorite is someone designated a lead with out HR responsibility for their team mates. Insubordination can be fostered when management does not fully support the lead. The lead has full responsibility for team success, but no way to discipline insubordination and non performance. Iâve seen this in 2 projects, same company.
In this case, the team is dfamiliar with Mel and should already uinderstand the teams purpose and goals. They just need to understand priorites over friendship.
lewisbower over 14 years ago
During Vietnam, if a Marine sgt yelled âdown!â, he was saving my life. Or I could have said âWhy?â and had my head blown off. âOurs is not to question whyâââ
summerdog86 over 14 years ago
At my house you have three choicesâŠ..
My way, my way or my way.
Nighthawks Premium Member over 14 years ago
here itâs my way, my way, my way or all of the above
GrimmaTheNome over 14 years ago
Its not complicated - her team is just trying it on to see if sheâll give them some leeway. Good for her that she wonât - give an inch and theyâll take a mile. Hopefully theyâll buckle down soon.
gaebie over 14 years ago
The crew thought that when they got âone of their ownâ that position, things would be easier on them and she would still be best buds.
Mel might have some growing pains in the job, but she is doing just fine. And yes, it is true that âit is lonely at the topâ.
Nemesys over 14 years ago
Well, one of the basics of leadership is to foster an environment that encourages each of your employees to own their results. Mel is perfectly justified in demanding deadlines and standards of quality, but as the chaplain will remind her, not everything has to occur âher wayâ so long as those goals are achieved. For people to have pride in their work, they have to identify it as their own work too.
Thereâs a significant difference between barking orders and managing & motivating people. Mostly itâs a matter of communications - setting clear expectations, providing coaching and feedback, and reviewing results for the purpose of performance improvement. This is often confusing with supervisory personnel who were promoted as a result of their technical expertise as opposed to âpeople personsâ. Mel can learn the skills and needs to if she wants to further her NCO career.
randgrithr over 14 years ago
She told them what to do, and then she went off and did her own grunt work instead of making sure they did it. Commendable as far as attitude goes - sheâs NOT putting on airs. However, itâs now her job to assess her troops skills, their weaknesses, and their abilities. She wasnât doing that job.
Itâs clear - SHE has not received guidance (sheâs looking for it in this strip) and she also has not given any to the troopies.
My comments stand, long may they wave.
ChromeHead over 14 years ago
Kudoâs to Trudeau. His scenarioâs relating to the military have beem consistently good. Canât say the same when he becomes political or lost in the 60âs. Stay with the military where you are doing good.
Orion-13 over 14 years ago
Benson, Itâs pretty much the same as an office in a lot of ways and I think thatâs kinda the joke heâs making. Melâs struggling with changing over from âone of the guysâ to âleaderâ and thatâs always challenging.
As to OpTempo, thatâs always up there. When I was at Camp Cupcake, we worked frequent 18-20 hour days. Our initial schedule was 0500-1700ish with one day âoffâ out of every 10.
We got things shaken out leadership wise and I got our schedule to two overlapping 10 hour shifts with one day âoffâ out of every 7. MUCH better.
Orion
longtimecomicsfan over 14 years ago
Familiarity at work here - thereâs always a problem when youâre put in charge of a bunch of people that know you as an equal or a member of the same group of peers.
This is why youâre shipped to the furthest military base away from your home for boot camp - to eliminate all the âthatâs not the way we do things around hereâ blowback.
Note - Iâm not a military man, but I have attempted to teach a girlfriend to ski (physically demanding, very technical) with identical results - mutiny.
countoftowergrove over 14 years ago
Bensondonald said, about 18 hours ago
Any vets or current troops out there? Iâm wondering if Trudeau is talking about something thatâs big to active soldiers but reads like simple office politics to us civilians. A while ago I was going through a book of Bill Mauldinâs WWII cartoons, and many were downright puzzling without footnotes explaining the context
Iâm a vet and donât be swayed by any arguement that the army is above politics. Unless youâre in a fire fight, office politics is the norm.
countoftowergrove over 14 years ago
Why is Mel going to the chaplain about this? Her platoon sergeant should be mentoring her.
FriscoLou over 14 years ago
I was listening to âTalk of the Nationâ on a NPR podcast today, and they were interviewing Tom Ricks (he wrote âFiascoâ) about the best and worst histories/memoirs on Iraq. The best: âHouse to Houseâ & âChasing Ghostsâ among others. The worst: Books written by Tommy Franks, L. Paul Bremmer and Sanchez. Ricks actually said that Franks was âstupidâ and he wasnât much more impressed with Bremmer or Sanchez.
Ricks did say that one of the best commentaries has come from Doonesbury. He said that Trudeau has a good feel for the multiple perspectives and dynamics of each situation, and then he went on to site a strip that I missed ⊠TAKE THAT STEBON! You âPerceptive Manâ hater.
My personal best book: âThe last True Story Iâll ever tellâ by John Crawford. His Guard unit was called up at the beginning, he was 1/2 a credit from an anthropology degree at FSU and his 18 mo. deployment lasted longer than his marriage. Others have had to pay a far higher price, but still Crawfordâs bitterness toward the military is unmistakable.
rmurphy36 over 14 years ago
Reference the Shiek;s comment. I think Mel was promoted and took over because they were not doing the job acceptably before.. As a 20 year Army Aviation Vet she looks like a superb NCO to me.