Wow! Greg’s first character (Before the idea for Luann came along) is “hanging it up!” Very poigniant moment…..– I’m sure that whenever he hears an alarm or a clock bell going off, he’s going to reach(out of force of habit) for the yardstick and automaticallly make a “tapping” motion to Knock Knute’s cap off… – I wonder if he’d still have that reaction if he runs into Knute in the Grocery Store?
Hope Mr. Fogarty finds happiness in his retirement. Maybe he will teach a course at the local college with Luann as a student. Meanwhile, will his ‘friendship’ with Miss Blipps continue?
“Yay! Day”“Forarty’s Final Finals”“Hard Habit To Break”“…No More Students’ Dirty Looks”“Commencement For Everyone”“Class Dismissed!”“From Faculty Lounge To Pool Lounge”or “Hey! Teacher! Leave Those Kids Alone!”
This would have been a great way for Greg Evans to use the strip if he wanted to announce his own retirement. However, since apparently he does not intend to retire yet, it will serve simply to answer the question of “What happened to Mr. Fogarty?” when the same group of students that he has taught every year at Pitt finally go off to college. And it raises the question of whether Aaron Hill will ever be erupted out of that volcano where he was sent after the 1986 strip we see in the flashback.
We used to sing a song we called “The Joy Boys Of Radio”. Stupid title but it went something like this:All — “We are the Joy Boys of radioooo, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hellooo.”Chanter — “There’s only one bar in town.”All — “BOOooooo.”Chanter — “It’s one mile long.”All — “Yeahhhhh”.Thereupon followed more stanzas of similar intellectual subjects.
I believe, with this group of seniors, that aside from maybe Tiff, they are happy for Mr. Fogarty. Keep in mind that these are characters and they are often created from a “group mentality” perspective. Almost all of us have a teacher like Mr. Fogarty in our past, and despite the things that we found odd about him, we more often than not remember our time with him with fondness.
“I’m RETIRING from Teaching at the End of the School Year, But I’m Taking a Job with the NSA. So REMEMBER, “Kiddies,” I’ll Always Be WATCHING!" -- Old Foghatery or Whatever the Heck This Guy’s Name Is.
I didn’t phrase that very well. What I meant was that we saw Aaron Hill in this 1986 flashback, and later on he was sent away. He moved to the volcano in late 2004.
“Bored of Education”?^Good one! But we don’t yet know if he was bored, or his “clock” was just giving him an alarm. Usually, when you put so much time into something, you never fully leave it. Your heart still moves you to “act and think” like you did, when you did it. That’s why “retirement” can be a big adjustment… – Just ask some athletes who come back and make it good for one more run. ( But don’t ask Brett Favre!)
Whether the kids’ response was rude or not really depends on things we can’t see in the comic strip – things like how Mr. Fogarty introduced his announcement, his vocal inflection, and whether or not he’s smiling when he makes the announcement. The kids could easily have been “yay-ing” with Mr. Fogarty.
Ah yes, the teacher who pretty much anchored all the “wow are my students tedious and dumb” gags is retiring. -Of course I’ll get fussed at for saying this, but it would make way more sense if it said “At the end of the school year, I will retire after x-many years. It has been an honor knowing you, I’m a lucky man to have had such a long career molding young minds, blah blah blah” followed by “Yay!”-Really, this feels more like “I have a new thermos.” “Yay!”
Why are they cheering? They’re graduating at the end of the year. They would never be seeing him again anyways or do they know that they aren’t really graduating and will only end up starting high school again.
“You mean the events that take place AFTER the acknowledgement of retirement?”^No. They take place BEFORE and DURING (and also AFTERWARD). If you’ve been with a company “X” amount of years, and you let your workmates know you’re retiring, they will be hooting. NOT because they don’t like you, but because it was the “dream” of many to work, save up and be able to say: “I’m OUTTA HERE!”…. – You certainly DO NOT “act sad”. Not unless the news is dire! And on top of that, you’re being a phony if you were to do that… – That bit of hyperbole you threw out is “incongruent”. It isn’t relatable, as such a thing is a truly tragic announcement. Retirement is “going out on top” (speaking strictly of the IDEAL sense, which seems to be what appears here) and “when you say” ….
“Also, you are assuming a workplace "^I told you from the get-go, that it was based off of the ideal situation… you’re only trying to expand to make it as dire (=negative) a situation as possible, to try to “destroy” other people’s enjoyment of something… – We are speaking of a COMIC where Greg is “sending off” his characters the way HE wants to. Now, certainly, you’re not going to say that he’d ‘render as tasteless" an “institution” that he himself created , are you? (We all know you are, but this is for the point…) – As I’ve mentioned already, he didn’t write Fogarty off here in a tragic scene… the previous strip had Fogarty himself saying: ‘I just wished that ONE of my announcements would end with a “Yay!”…. it’s what FOGARTY wanted. It’s what Mr. Evans gave to him… Fogarty got what he wanted … a “YAY!” at the end of one of his announcements. It was just a neat way for Greg to “tie up” the decades, and to give us all a sense of history, irony, and COMEDY .
The only way Fogarty could get that “Yay” is to say that he was leaving to the students that don’t appreciate him.^
Many times, this strip has shown Fogarty in “exasperation” over his students, as he felt them not working up to their potential. Many times, the students lamented over his numerous assignments (in their view) and his position as “the adult/teacher” vs. them, “the kids/students”. Today was just a “common ground” between them in their long “struggle”. In the end, he is a teacher who cares. In the end, they are students who will have benefitted from that care. It was just both sides in a moment of “victory”. But it wasn’t in “derision”, and it wasn’t in “glibness/ecstasy”, either… – As someone pointed out, earlier, if Fogarty said it with a “resigned, defeated” voice, then it would be different. Again, It wasn’t meant to be taken as a dire comic, it wasn’t taken to be “Blindly glib and gleeful”, either. It was just meant as a sendoff. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a comedic, historical reference, nothing more, nothing less. It wasn’t meant to be “derision”, it wasn’t meant to be “unbounded celebration”, either. – BTW, It’s nothing wrong with pointing out things about any comic, good OR bad. But… there is a difference between that and “stretching out a point” for the sake of “trying to find something wrong” and “over-dramatizing” just for the sake of arguing against something…..
“The truth is we don’t know 100% what Greg and Karen are thinking here;”^That’s not true. They communicate on Twitter, Facebook, (and when it’s up) the “Studio”, and numerous articles. That’s where I am drawing from……
of course they’re not fond of their teacher (totally). That’s (as you’ve mentioned) a classic trope… but… it’s not all that way. I’ve said this above. But it is a send off in the way that (as I have been mentioning ) FOGARTY had wanted. He was only wanting to hear a “Yay!” after the end of JUST ONE of his announcements. Greg has provided him with it. It was just a way to send him off, and to “commemorate” prior strips (and “Luann history”). Again , that’s the gist of what I was saying….
Everything else was only in response to that premise you’ve stretched out in listing all of the possible “doom and gloom” scenarios of retirement and trying to prove that this was “all bad”….
" Whether he wants to or not is irrelevant to my complaint; "^But earlier, you were basing your “complaint” (at least partly) on the supposition of the “possible” nature of Fogarty’s retirement…..
" I will ignore the doom and gloom and assume the kids all knew Fogarty really wanted to retire."^That wasn’t even something I was saying. Why would I say that they “already knew”? My position was saying that it wasn’t all about “doom and gloom”. – And It’s not about “winning and losing, either”…. as always, it’s “let’s just agree to disagree”….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Wow! Greg’s first character (Before the idea for Luann came along) is “hanging it up!” Very poigniant moment…..– I’m sure that whenever he hears an alarm or a clock bell going off, he’s going to reach(out of force of habit) for the yardstick and automaticallly make a “tapping” motion to Knock Knute’s cap off… – I wonder if he’d still have that reaction if he runs into Knute in the Grocery Store?
DaJellyBelly over 10 years ago
Mr. Fogarty, you will be missed. Your students just don’t realize it yet.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
(Re: “Bad blocking/Home field cookin’”) So, in essence, they can “Keep on truckin’”, Albert Belle/Prince Fielder Style?
rusty gate over 10 years ago
Hope Mr. Fogarty finds happiness in his retirement. Maybe he will teach a course at the local college with Luann as a student. Meanwhile, will his ‘friendship’ with Miss Blipps continue?
JayBluE over 10 years ago
You know, it almost seems as if that former strip up there was re-run last week. Come to think of it, it was just re-run last week….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Heh, heh! They “asked for it!”
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“Yay! Day”“Forarty’s Final Finals”“Hard Habit To Break”“…No More Students’ Dirty Looks”“Commencement For Everyone”“Class Dismissed!”“From Faculty Lounge To Pool Lounge”or “Hey! Teacher! Leave Those Kids Alone!”
Templo S.U.D. over 10 years ago
In the flashback, why would Tiffany dislike Shakespeare? Didn’t she want to be come an actress?
seismic-2 Premium Member over 10 years ago
This would have been a great way for Greg Evans to use the strip if he wanted to announce his own retirement. However, since apparently he does not intend to retire yet, it will serve simply to answer the question of “What happened to Mr. Fogarty?” when the same group of students that he has taught every year at Pitt finally go off to college. And it raises the question of whether Aaron Hill will ever be erupted out of that volcano where he was sent after the 1986 strip we see in the flashback.
sarafaye over 10 years ago
Mr. Feeny thought he was retiring when the kids from Boy Meets World graduated too.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
And that must have been modified from a “Weiner Mobile”’!-Sort of a… “Stude-barker”. Or a “Wanna-bego”… or an “Ed (No-)Sell”…
ILuvLu over 10 years ago
We used to sing a song we called “The Joy Boys Of Radio”. Stupid title but it went something like this:All — “We are the Joy Boys of radioooo, Hello, Hello, Hello, Hellooo.”Chanter — “There’s only one bar in town.”All — “BOOooooo.”Chanter — “It’s one mile long.”All — “Yeahhhhh”.Thereupon followed more stanzas of similar intellectual subjects.
draksig over 10 years ago
Is Luann coming to an end? Is Greg about to retire or call it quits?
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“…or it will only seem like he is teaching every class she takes.” ^“the Stepford Teachers”…
KZ71 over 10 years ago
Wha… I’d have had a YAY for that Shakespeare announcement. I’m a Shakespeare actor and have played Macbeth. Love the guy’s stuff.
Sisyphos over 10 years ago
YAY!So long, Mr. Fogarty. It’s been good to know you all these years. Have a peaceful, happy retirement!
seanyj over 10 years ago
With Luann and her friends finally graduating and Mr. Fogarty retiring, could this be the end of the Luann comic strip?
Shirley Cherney over 10 years ago
Is this comic strip retiring?? I will miss it.
Michelle Morris over 10 years ago
Wasn’t that featured in “Damnation Alley”? :D
DuskyPaws over 10 years ago
I see Aaron Hill in the old strip…is that right? Been a long time since we saw him.
Ken Rubis over 10 years ago
I believe, with this group of seniors, that aside from maybe Tiff, they are happy for Mr. Fogarty. Keep in mind that these are characters and they are often created from a “group mentality” perspective. Almost all of us have a teacher like Mr. Fogarty in our past, and despite the things that we found odd about him, we more often than not remember our time with him with fondness.
Mordock999 Premium Member over 10 years ago
“I’m RETIRING from Teaching at the End of the School Year, But I’m Taking a Job with the NSA. So REMEMBER, “Kiddies,” I’ll Always Be WATCHING!" -- Old Foghatery or Whatever the Heck This Guy’s Name Is.
vwdualnomand over 10 years ago
what does happen to retired teachers? do they still teach part time or volunteer, or do they do travel the world.
locake over 10 years ago
That seems kind of mean to cheer when someone says they are leaving. Why would the students care anyway, they won’t be in high school.
seismic-2 Premium Member over 10 years ago
I didn’t phrase that very well. What I meant was that we saw Aaron Hill in this 1986 flashback, and later on he was sent away. He moved to the volcano in late 2004.
Train 1911 over 10 years ago
Maybe their happy for him that he can retire and in joy rest of his life free to do what he wants and thank for all the yeaes as the carton principal
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“Bored of Education”?^Good one! But we don’t yet know if he was bored, or his “clock” was just giving him an alarm. Usually, when you put so much time into something, you never fully leave it. Your heart still moves you to “act and think” like you did, when you did it. That’s why “retirement” can be a big adjustment… – Just ask some athletes who come back and make it good for one more run. ( But don’t ask Brett Favre!)
ReneTray over 10 years ago
A——————————————————————————————————-nd he becomes a college instructor for most of them in different classes.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Right on the mark!
leff over 10 years ago
Anyone notice that “BY SHAKESPEARE” WAS “ABOUT SHAKESPEARE” when originally published?
SactoSylvia over 10 years ago
Whether the kids’ response was rude or not really depends on things we can’t see in the comic strip – things like how Mr. Fogarty introduced his announcement, his vocal inflection, and whether or not he’s smiling when he makes the announcement. The kids could easily have been “yay-ing” with Mr. Fogarty.
Scorchwave over 10 years ago
That’s rude for a class, at least appear to not be jumping for joy.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Either you’ve never been to a retirement party, or you’ve never watched a sports event….
Caldonia over 10 years ago
Ah yes, the teacher who pretty much anchored all the “wow are my students tedious and dumb” gags is retiring. -Of course I’ll get fussed at for saying this, but it would make way more sense if it said “At the end of the school year, I will retire after x-many years. It has been an honor knowing you, I’m a lucky man to have had such a long career molding young minds, blah blah blah” followed by “Yay!”-Really, this feels more like “I have a new thermos.” “Yay!”
Liam Astle Premium Member over 10 years ago
Why are they cheering? They’re graduating at the end of the year. They would never be seeing him again anyways or do they know that they aren’t really graduating and will only end up starting high school again.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“You mean the events that take place AFTER the acknowledgement of retirement?”^No. They take place BEFORE and DURING (and also AFTERWARD). If you’ve been with a company “X” amount of years, and you let your workmates know you’re retiring, they will be hooting. NOT because they don’t like you, but because it was the “dream” of many to work, save up and be able to say: “I’m OUTTA HERE!”…. – You certainly DO NOT “act sad”. Not unless the news is dire! And on top of that, you’re being a phony if you were to do that… – That bit of hyperbole you threw out is “incongruent”. It isn’t relatable, as such a thing is a truly tragic announcement. Retirement is “going out on top” (speaking strictly of the IDEAL sense, which seems to be what appears here) and “when you say” ….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“Also, you are assuming a workplace "^I told you from the get-go, that it was based off of the ideal situation… you’re only trying to expand to make it as dire (=negative) a situation as possible, to try to “destroy” other people’s enjoyment of something… – We are speaking of a COMIC where Greg is “sending off” his characters the way HE wants to. Now, certainly, you’re not going to say that he’d ‘render as tasteless" an “institution” that he himself created , are you? (We all know you are, but this is for the point…) – As I’ve mentioned already, he didn’t write Fogarty off here in a tragic scene… the previous strip had Fogarty himself saying: ‘I just wished that ONE of my announcements would end with a “Yay!”…. it’s what FOGARTY wanted. It’s what Mr. Evans gave to him… Fogarty got what he wanted … a “YAY!” at the end of one of his announcements. It was just a neat way for Greg to “tie up” the decades, and to give us all a sense of history, irony, and COMEDY .
JayBluE over 10 years ago
The only way Fogarty could get that “Yay” is to say that he was leaving to the students that don’t appreciate him.^
Many times, this strip has shown Fogarty in “exasperation” over his students, as he felt them not working up to their potential. Many times, the students lamented over his numerous assignments (in their view) and his position as “the adult/teacher” vs. them, “the kids/students”. Today was just a “common ground” between them in their long “struggle”. In the end, he is a teacher who cares. In the end, they are students who will have benefitted from that care. It was just both sides in a moment of “victory”. But it wasn’t in “derision”, and it wasn’t in “glibness/ecstasy”, either… – As someone pointed out, earlier, if Fogarty said it with a “resigned, defeated” voice, then it would be different. Again, It wasn’t meant to be taken as a dire comic, it wasn’t taken to be “Blindly glib and gleeful”, either. It was just meant as a sendoff. Nothing more, nothing less. It was a comedic, historical reference, nothing more, nothing less. It wasn’t meant to be “derision”, it wasn’t meant to be “unbounded celebration”, either. – BTW, It’s nothing wrong with pointing out things about any comic, good OR bad. But… there is a difference between that and “stretching out a point” for the sake of “trying to find something wrong” and “over-dramatizing” just for the sake of arguing against something…..
Arghhgarrr Premium Member over 10 years ago
It seems to me that this is the clearest indicator yet that Greg Evans is planning to retire the strip.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
And others here have seen it differently from you , as well!
JayBluE over 10 years ago
It is kinda funny that you don’t see Gunther in today’s strip….
reedkomicks Premium Member over 10 years ago
“( look at the plaid shirt”-It’s not a plaid shirt, it’s a jacket. Although it may well be from planet Gunther as you noted.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“…and you are stating your view as a fact. "^That’s your opinion….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“The truth is we don’t know 100% what Greg and Karen are thinking here;”^That’s not true. They communicate on Twitter, Facebook, (and when it’s up) the “Studio”, and numerous articles. That’s where I am drawing from……
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“…The truth is we don’t know 100% what Greg and Karen are thinking here …”
^Look up above at the strip that Brd just posted….
Willow Mt Lyon over 10 years ago
Why are they all happy? They aren’t going to be at Pitts High next year anyhow.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
That is for the point you’ve argued about Fogarty “not wanting to”.
JayBluE over 10 years ago
of course they’re not fond of their teacher (totally). That’s (as you’ve mentioned) a classic trope… but… it’s not all that way. I’ve said this above. But it is a send off in the way that (as I have been mentioning ) FOGARTY had wanted. He was only wanting to hear a “Yay!” after the end of JUST ONE of his announcements. Greg has provided him with it. It was just a way to send him off, and to “commemorate” prior strips (and “Luann history”). Again , that’s the gist of what I was saying….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Appreciation and gratitude!
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Everything else was only in response to that premise you’ve stretched out in listing all of the possible “doom and gloom” scenarios of retirement and trying to prove that this was “all bad”….
JayBluE over 10 years ago
Heh, heh, heh!!!
JayBluE over 10 years ago
" Whether he wants to or not is irrelevant to my complaint; "^But earlier, you were basing your “complaint” (at least partly) on the supposition of the “possible” nature of Fogarty’s retirement…..
JayBluE over 10 years ago
" I will ignore the doom and gloom and assume the kids all knew Fogarty really wanted to retire."^That wasn’t even something I was saying. Why would I say that they “already knew”? My position was saying that it wasn’t all about “doom and gloom”. – And It’s not about “winning and losing, either”…. as always, it’s “let’s just agree to disagree”….
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
Holee katz! Where did you ever Find that picture?! =-O
JayBluE over 10 years ago
My fault. I was so focused on the ’topic" at hand… it probably was the first pic….
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
That is one Great ’toon! (the one discussing what teachers really want to be doing). ;)
JayBluE over 10 years ago
“You mean this one?”^That one must have come from a little known show called “Chico and the Bat Man”…..
JayBluE over 10 years ago
I have a similar affinity for public transit vehicles around the world…
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
Uh, oh, here I go falling off my computer chair again! LOL! ;)
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
It does! I wonder if there are four seats in the back of that bus… ;)
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
For the ones I can remember, that’s true! That’s one of those “I fell off my computer chair because I was laughing my head off” moments! ;)
JayBluE over 10 years ago
I will definitely do that!
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
Heheh! ;)
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
I made some Banana -Raisin bread about three hours earlier…it should be cool enough to sample… BBL… ;)
JayBluE over 10 years ago
I’m waiting for a “meme” of one of those “office inspiration” posters to appear with “Tiffany’s sayings”…
LtPowers over 10 years ago
How did you do that?
Silverclaw over 10 years ago
Goodbye mr fogarty. WE will miss you. Well, some of us will.
Isaac Chen over 6 years ago
That strip had been waiting for over 20 years to be resolved.
Stan the Building about 5 years ago
Aww I love fogarty
12515527 13 days ago
No :(