B.C. by Mastroianni and Hart for December 23, 2009

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    yyyguy  almost 15 years ago

    not any more, Joe, not any more.

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    sjoujke  almost 15 years ago

    Aaw…he took their tree…what a Grinch.

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    JP Steve Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Was that the one Lio decorated last week?

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    comYics  almost 15 years ago

    Aww, poor widdle creatures. Sumone dun stole der tree. Time to get a free meal wolf. Caveman surprise.

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    monon43  almost 15 years ago

    This has to rank has one of the most depressing comics I’ve ever seen.

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    Yukoner  almost 15 years ago

    Where would he get a saw to make that neat a cut?

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    svspatel  almost 15 years ago

    Awww.. this one is too touching. Poor Animals. Agree with you monon43

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    You’re a monster, Mr. Grinch Your heart’s an empty hole Your brain is full of spiders, you have garlic in your soul Mr. Grinch I wouldn’t touch you with a thirty-nine-and-a-half foot pole.

    You’re a rotter, Mr. Grinch You’re the king of sinful sots Your heart’s a dead tomato splotched with moldy purple spots Mr. Gri-inch! You’re a three-decker sauerkraut and toadstool sandwich with arsenic sauce!

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    Lyons Group, Inc.  almost 15 years ago

    Let’s call this one “How The Caveman Stole Christmas”

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    Lyons Group, Inc.  almost 15 years ago

    Correction: “How The Cavemen TOOK Christmas”.

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    lewisbower  almost 15 years ago

    HART With this comic I may joined the tree hugging, green eco people. Let me go switch my voter registration.

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    baluchi  almost 15 years ago

    I don’t see an earlier strip re the tree – except for GROG decked out by Blondie! What gives?

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    Trainwreck_1  almost 15 years ago

    Tis the season to give isn’t it…? And I seem too recall something about giving until it’s hurts.

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    There’s a difference between giving of one’s free will and someone taking as a bully would.

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    crazyolnick  almost 15 years ago

    is this another one of those caveman commericals

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    Takiniteasy  almost 15 years ago

    B.C. is a strip that has consistently and unashamedly presented the story of Christmas and the birth of Christ every year. I’ll cut him some slack for this one.

    I believe I read somewhere that Christmas was never mentioned in the Bible and was an extension of the Roman Catholic Church’s “Christ Mass”… not sure where I read that …

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    DolphinGirl78  almost 15 years ago

    I have to agree that this is the most depressing comic, along with today’s Non Sequitur… it’s two days until Xmas and death and sadness abound… I’m not understanding…

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    wicky  almost 15 years ago

    He should invite them in for cookies and nog.

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    Trainwreck_1  almost 15 years ago

    You hit the nail right on the head BC13… I’m happy my comment was reputed so fast! One more thing BC13 your comment about the Detroit Lions the other day gives me cause to ask if your from MI. I myself grew up in Davison, MI. and moved to NM in 1979 MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE or HAPPY HANUKAH EVERYONE

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    Digital Frog  almost 15 years ago

    Hart can still redeem this toon - if they invite all the critters in out of the cold for Christmas.

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Paul M I actually grew up in Montreal before moving around in my later years to where my job takes me. I now reside in League City (Houston) TX. ————- Note that I don’t think Johnny Hart would have penned anything remotely like this. Mason, on the other hand, often displays poor judgement, in my opinion.

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    tonytiger29  almost 15 years ago

    Hey critters… check out the caves. they’re like tootsie pops. hard on the outside with a chewy inside.

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    I don’t see this as poor judgment. It’s melancholy rather than jolly, but it makes its point about Comfort and Joy being for ALL creatures by showing its opposite (Peter’s cluelessless). Some people increase their own joy by giving joy to others. Some people (like Peter) are oblivious to the idea that their own happiness might come at the expense of another’s (or worse, they know this but don’t care).

    There’s a tradition of Christmas stories about the animals surrounding the manger being aware of the significance of the birth of Christ. There’s also an old traditional belief that, on Christmas Eve, animals are gifted with human speech. So it’s hardly blasphemous (it seems to me) to suggest that the forest critters might decorate a tree of their own. It’s also not inconsistent for the Reason for the Season (as they say) to be highlighted by showing the counterpoint; it is through Scrooge’s meanness at the beginning of A Christmas Carol that his redemption at the end has its significance (of course, I can hardly expect Peter to be rehabilitated in any lasting way; he’d lose his effectiveness as the “bad example” for future strips).

    Today’s strip is on the sad side, but I like it. It may be Hart-less, but it’s not heartless.

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    mrkknts09  almost 15 years ago

    is this the nitemare be for xmas.the animals should use their noses and track down that thief.and take back whats is theirs.should not be that hard to track in the snow.

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    fritzkringle You are right, although I still do not like this strip.

    My point was that though Johnny had a good sense of humor, he had boundaries that Mason dares to cross, to the the point of poor taste, which he had achieved in a couple strips this year.

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    Rise22  almost 15 years ago

    Was there a decorated tree? This one doesn’t make any sense at all - and it’s simply depressing…thought the key word here was “comics.”

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    ChazNCenTex  almost 15 years ago

    I think he’s saying that animals celebrate the birth of Christ every bit as much as humans do. But some of us are too dumb to realize it.

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    BC13, Hart also crossed boundaries of taste from time to time. I’m thinking specifically of the outhouse/Islam strip a few years back…

    It’s possible that Mason is making a deliberate attempt to modernize the strip in some ways, giving the strip an “edge”. He has inherited a strong legacy, but he’s also got to compete for space with Pearls Before Swine, Get Fuzzy, and Lio, not just Beetle Bailey, Blondie, and Dennis the Menace. He has to attract new readers, without unduly alienating the old ones. He’s still finding his way, but he seems on the right track.

    But bear in mind that the syndicates ALL employ editors, and every “slip” that has made it into print has been approved by a chain of command that no doubt wants to protect the strip’s value. Hart having done the strip since dinosaurs really walked the earth, the syndicate probably gave him a lot of leeway in the later years to do whatever he wanted. In my own opinion, the last few years of Hart’s B.C. were alternating mediocrity (“Show Me…”, “My Hometown was So Small…”) and narrow-minded religious rantings. Mason’s B.C. seems fresher and funnier, and I have little doubt that the syndicate is keeping a close watch on him.

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    kmcripn  almost 15 years ago

    what kind of dog can be that close to a squirrel without going crazy??

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Well, Wolf isn’t a dog yet; he’s a wolf.

    I’ve read that wolves “imprint” on a specific prey when hunting. If a wolf is following a moose, he can track that moose single-mindedly for days (literally) and be completely oblivious to other prey (rabbits, squirrels, etc.) that he passes along the way…

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    fritzkringle Mason does have his moments and I grant that you can’t be funny all the time, which even Johnny has proven. I recently purchased the first 50 years and I still haven’t stopped laughing from the fist few pages I’ve read. I don’t know if I’ll be around for the publishing of the next 50 but I can only hope it will be half as funny.

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    Iwa Iniki  almost 15 years ago

    This is so sad.

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    whitecarabao  almost 15 years ago

    Has anyone considered what that may be decorated with?

    Maybe the joke is on Peter.

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Don’t get me wrong, I’ve got great respect for the body of Hart’s work on the whole. I grew up reading a lot of B.C. reprint books, and they were fantastic. But by the end of his life Hart’s best work was many years behind him.

    Likewise, Peanuts went through an extended fallow period from (perhaps) the mid-80’s to the mid-90’s. Fortunately, at least in my personal opinion Schulz had a real creative resurgence in the last years. The final year in particular (collected in the book “Peanuts 2000”) stands up well in comparison to the 60’s and 70’s (it’s different, but equally good in its own way). I think a lot of people who gave up on Peanuts by 1995 or so might be surprised if they gave that book a look.

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    GROG Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    Peanuts was another one I followed through thick and thin right up to the end. I still read classic Peanuts to get my Peanuts fix.

    I really enjoyed the formative years as Schultz slowly added characters to the mix. Like BC, I’ve still got a number of his collections from the Sixties, but I would really like to acquire a definitive Peanuts collection.

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    robertdcurtis  almost 15 years ago

    That better not be the tree from Woodland Critters Christmas or their going to be in serious trouble.

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    fritzoid Premium Member almost 15 years ago

    BC13, for several years now they’ve slowly been releasing the Complete Peanuts in hardcover. Two volumes released per year, each volume containing two years of strips. (That means it’ll take 12 and a half years to publish the whole thing.)

    They’re up to (I think) 1974 now, and all the past volumes are available through Amazon.com.

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    getmoreatp  almost 15 years ago

    Aww…poor little animals.

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    krisl73  almost 15 years ago

    Today’s wasn’t all that great, but in general, this comic has been fresher for a while.

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    comYics  almost 15 years ago

    Peter’s tool shack of course, Yukoner.

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