La Cucaracha by Lalo Alcaraz for January 09, 2010

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    Charles Brobst Premium Member over 14 years ago

    There is no debate. The climate is changing.

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    charles swartout Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Climate always changes. It changed long before man was here and will continue to long after we are gone.

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    Nighthawks Premium Member over 14 years ago

    so , screw it— drill baby drill , and run up those credit cards ‘cause there’s no tomorrow for humanity

    yee haw!

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    Trebor39  over 14 years ago

    Ostriches do not, as myth has it, hide their heads in the sand. Many of our kind do though when it comes to denial of climate change.

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    boozoothatswho  over 14 years ago

    Climate is not weather. Unfortunately, weatherhas become climate reduced to the LCintellectualD to swindle the teabagging booboisee.

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    GJ_Jehosaphat  over 14 years ago

    Sorry read about the Cold Snap in the South - Citrus & Strawberry Crop damage along with frozen pipes are no fun at all.

    There’s a wind chill warning where I used to live in the Ft Lauderdale area (use zip code 33334 in Weather.com’s web site). Below freezing weather in Tampa is just not right. Climate Change seems to be more appropriate than just focusing on “warming”.

    But as “IT” has been pointed out - Climate is not about the weather outside your window (it’s suppose to be in the Mid 50’s and partly sunny today in the Williamette Valley - Oregon). The weather predictions R Not Always Right - will have to wait & see :-))

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    pschearer Premium Member over 14 years ago

    Weather is not climate until there is enough of it, then it becomes climate. Just heard a Florida farmer on TV this morning saying they’ve had three years of tough winters now.

    But the most reliable data, a few decades of satellite temperature measurements, shows no global warming for the last ten years. Eventually the staunchest denier-deniers will have to admit that their made-up computer models have it wrong. But that will probably have to wait until they are retired and not dependent on government research grants any more.

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    GJ_Jehosaphat  over 14 years ago

    Learned something “New” today - I was looking for info regarding Jet Streams & Climate Change (talked about on the Weather Channel among other weather related issues).

    This is from The Scotsman Website (Posted 7, Jan 2010):

    “IT MIGHT be referred to as “upside-down weather”. In Scotland, temperatures are well below the seasonal norm. Yet in Canada it is positively balmy, with Goose Bay in Newfoundland barely getting below zero, whereas the average minimum for January is -23C.

    The answer to the question of why Britain has been wrapped in snow is to be found far out into the Atlantic. In the middle of December, the water temperature dropped and an unusual layer of cold water spread over the ocean, cooling the air above and developing into a vast area of high pressure centred over Greenland.

    If there is a villain in this wintry tale it is this giant mass, which is acting like an ugly bouncer, blocking the normal mild weather from the west and ushering into Britain ice queens from the north and east.

    As Met Office forecaster Robin Thwaytes explained, the block is saying to our ordinary winter weather: “You are not coming this way, thank you very much” and instead our weather is being forced down towards Spain and the Mediterranean, where it has been unseasonably wet.

    This cold water in the Atlantic is being blamed for the wave of cold currently enveloping North America, Europe and Asia. It is the butterfly effect. Yet it is unclear why the North Atlantic seas are so cold, but the cold water and the block of high pressure it has triggered have created a phenomenon known as the North Atlantic Oscillation. This is where high pressure in Greenland is balanced by low pressure towards the sub-tropical Azores islands. Like a seesaw rocking backwards and forwards, these two vast pressure systems can swing from one extreme to another.”

    “Already the average winter temperature in Scotland has increased by 1.5C in the past 40 years.

    “Our winters are much, much milder than they used to be particularly over the past decade and will continue to become more mild but that does not mean to say that on increasingly rare occasions we won’t get severe cold spells like this.”

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    pilotx  over 14 years ago

    Yep, and climatologists use 30 year norms to aleviate the variability. While models can’t predict exact weather they are useful in pointing out trends and with that data we can get useful information. Anyone suggesting scrapping computer models doesn’t know what they are talking about or has never been trained in atmospheric science.

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