Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for November 24, 2012

Now we know why Willard Rmoney lost. Voters were just too smart to fall for such a pants-on-fire whopper. John “the suppresser in chief” Boehner notwithstanding.

And yet the reality-crazed crowd continues to swallow the fiction and fantasy of the current administration. Give them a hand for constancy everyone.

CRSS study ≠ “science fiction”

When comparing apples with oranges, I always like to point out that we’ve got lots of practice telling the apples part from the oranges part.

Ebenezer got actually converted and helped the cripple Tiny Tim and his family out. Give the Republicans a shot at a similar salvation? Before the Lord comes, that is?

Too TRUE! As the old saying goes “Reality is a Crutch for people who cannot handle Science Fiction.”

I’ve long held that Science Fiction subsumes ALL other Literary categories since it’s range is ALL of Time and ALL of Space.

Thus “Regency Romances” are that branch of Science Fiction that deal with the Social consequences of the economic dislocations consequent to the Industrial Revolution in England.

i.e. All those Mill-Owner’s Daughters trying to “marry-up” into Society", don’cha know.

trickle down economics doesn’t work. laffer curve is a big joke.

This is quite a parade. Just in time to watch on tv during the Thanksgiving holiday. I’m glad GT didn’t choose to depict the Black Friday crowds. What a mess!

To learn more about the reality of the US debt:Www.maddowblog.com/thanksgiving

tThe election is over and you Liberals (Socialists) won. We Conservatives will deal with it the best we can. Our one satisfaction is that you Libs will also have to live with what you have done. Any of you notice that companies are laying off workers in bunches because they will not be able to afford Obamacare for them? Watch the unemployment numbers the next few months and see the results of your actions.

What’s with the artwork today! It’s nowhere near the usual Doonesbury quality!

Rachel Maddow posted a very dramatic chart about the deficit from Investors Business Daily. Most informative. Actually, the last three years have involved shrinking of the deficit, and this has been a very large reduction. It is the opposite of what Fox News, Limbaugh and others on the right (though not all of them) are saying. If it shrunk any faster, we would risk recession, according to Investors Business Daily. Maddow is a serious, super smart journalist. She has this stuff covered.

Didn’t papa john comment this counrty would really suck for 14 cents more?

There are no modern day, industrialized, 1st world countries which do not have universal health care. If you want to live in a place that doesn’t have it, you would have to go to a much poorer country. Check out Haiti, Turkmenistan, Bangladesh… I hear Bangladesh is lovely this time of year…

I have to give a shout out to Tom the Dancing Bug from yesterday! Just click on Gregg W and you will see it immediately. It has a nightmare of Bill O’Reilly with the cast of Leave it to Beaver! Love it!

love them like a crazed, psychotic, ax-wielding , serial-killer uncle.love them and put them away forever

Corporations are people…and so is Soylent Green.

You know CRS has a different meaning as well. TW, when are the Democrats going to pass a budget. Reality suggests that money is not unlimited, someone will have to pay the piper eventually.

A budget will be passed by the Democrats as soon as the Republicans step up & accept the fact there needs to be new revenue from the 1 pct.

The GOP is only concerned about the debt if a Democrat is in office— this much is clear. Check out—www.thepragmaticpundit.com/2012/05/democrats-v-republicans-debt-and.html

Funny how all the economic numbers got worse under Bush, and the Gops don’t talk about that (except to blame Clinton, Carter, and FDR), but the second the sun came out on that January day in 2009, it was all Obama’s fault. Even funnier how the econ numbers always do better under Ds than Rs.

So yeah, I’ll be glad to live under the crushing economic reality of Obama’s second term. I just hope he doesn’t give the farm away in his continued thankless (and futile) efforts to get the Republicans to participate in government.

Reality check: who really increased the debt? Reagan— 189%, George HW Bush— 55%, Clinton— 37%, W— 115%, Obama— 16%.OK Republicans, are you still concerned about the debt? Really? Just how concerned are you?

Of course, when the CRS disagrees with the DEMOCRATS, they’re an inaccurate bunch to be ignored.

Hey, Rachel, here comes the medical community! Look at those banners! “Abortion increases some cancer risks by 300%!”Chris, what are you looking at? I don’t see anything?Look, Rachel, the big float right in front of us, about 50 researchers and doctors, all highly respected by socialists and conservatives alike. See the banner on the front? “STD’s rising by 3.1% every year” And the one on the back? “Abortion deaths worldwide top 600000”Nope, there’s no float like that.Oh, we have our fact-denying glasses on again, right Rachel?Facts are only facts, Chris, if they get me what I want. Math and science are not always true.Uh, Rachel, we talked about this, selective reality, remember? Do we have to talk about the Effective Unemployment rate again?

One thing I like about Trudeau is that he’s in favor of raising taxes on the wealthiest, even though it would mean he would personally have to pay more. He is in favor of middle and lower income people getting a fair shake in society. Before Reagan took office, the top rate was 70%. Now it is only 35%. If taxes on the wealthiest doubled, they would still be very wealthy compared to everyone else!

Roe vs Wade is settled law. There are still GOP folks who want to turn us back, in fact it seems really important to them. Too bad. We are not going back. If they are so against abortion, they should get on the bandwagon with the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists who are recommending oral contraception being available over the counter. I am not pro-abortion, I am pro-woman. I am for women being able to live their lives in a way that gives them a chance to have a decent life and to live in a world where every child is a wanted child.

The wealthy have always been able to obtain abortions and always will. The antiabortion crowd is only preying on the poor. Congressman Desjarlais is the most recent example of a “prolife” hypocrite who only wants that choice to be available for people like his wife and mistress, not for others who can’t afford it.

Is that Alex? GB has never drawn her so badly.

Whoops, sorry, big bad. No, Kim, Mike’s wife is really, really badly drawn. What did GB do? Sorry for the mixup.

You make a strong point here!

We noticed that the claim…health care act will cost them… We only see hard right Republicans saying this… same ones who threaten their workers all the time.True that, Night-Gaunt49. They are the same ones who had no intention of ever being fair to their own workforce in the first place and were just looking for an excuse and one that would fit their own political point of view (in their minds) to not go along with the Affordable Healthcare Act, since it was passed by Obama. It was not first proposed by Obama, there were several conservatives who seem to have been in on the idea of health care reform. Years from now, the conservatives will claim it was all their idea, just as many conservatives now claim to have been in on the civil rights movement years ago. It is important to remember that the health care reform will take time, just as the civil rights movement didn’t solve everything overnight… I think I would say this to those who say now do something! Some people seem to think that the prez is the king. He can’t just snap his fingers and get everything done. He has done plenty if you consider the obstructionists that he has had to deal with, if you ask me.

Of course, there were SOME conservatives who were there on the side of the civil rights movement, but relatively few. And, once Obama was the one who proposed the current health care reform, even fewer conservatives were on the side of health care reform. However, years from now, we will see what the conservatives say about what they were up to when it was passed, it is hard to tell. Then again, there are many conservatives who have never been accepting of Medicare and/or Social Security, they weren’t then and they aren’t now, so who knows? The important thing is that the majority of Americans support it and more will support it in the future when it kicks in and they don’t have to experience the crippling effect of medical debt… We have to deal with the cost of medical care because it can involve life-crushing debt for many people.

Of course tax cuts for the rich don’t create jobs. Only 3% of the very rich are actually entrepreneurs (according to them)! If tax cuts did create jobs, the last 30 years should’ve produced a zillion jobs!

“And here comes the Republicans and Conservatives being led off to be publicly executed.”

As if Garry Trudeau is the type of person who would entertain the idea of someone who has a different political point of view being publicly executed. Yessiree, that is really the kind of person he is…

Never got a job that I wanted from anyone without money. Unfortunately sometimes you only find that out come payday!

Perhaps, in his infinite wisdom, Garry Trudeau would be so kind as to tell us exactly how tax hikes for the rich help the economy.

Perhaps you should read about what took place during the Clinton administration, when the wealthy had a slightly higher tax rate and we had a very robust economy.

I personally think that what we need to stimulate the economy is to bring jobs back from overseas. And it is the republicans who are the worst offenders. However, there must be some compromise on some epa and asha regulations. No, don’t go back to the fifties. Just use a little wisdom so that the cost of change is not such a burden.

That should read osha. Sorry

“Contrary to what the administration says – the issue is not peer review or failure to use “good science.” The “goodness” of our science is only questioned when it yields an answer that is in conflict with a commercial or political interest.”—Union of Concerned Scientists

Our fantasy is our congress is two political parties…

I miss DT. Where is that guy? He was with us only briefly today.

f I rather like the quip “Those who do not remember the past are condemned to relive it; those who DO remember the past are condemned to sit by helplessly and ignored while majority relive it.” History is rather curious. Setting aside those who willfully distort for their own purposes, considering only those who are really trying to get at the truth of things, here’s what I sometimes say: the history of anything is like a jigsaw puzzle with half the pieces missing. Each historian arranges what’s left into the pattern that seems most likely to him, and then fills in the blank spaces with his best guesses, and then presents the tale as best as he is able. Many different histories can all be consistent with the evidence, and yet be completely different from one another. Some people are better at this recreation than others, but there can be no final history of anything, even if no new pieces ever turned up, which they often do. So while no history is perfect, some are certainly better than others. You say that all history is written by the winners; not necessarily. Today’s loser is tomorrow’s winner, and vice versa. I’d rather say, all history is written by and for the living, not the dead. The same tale is told differently in different eras, because it is being told for the present audience, not a past one. Just some random thoughts.

I’m impressed the way new people step into the frey. On both sides! This is a democracy, despite some folks who think it’s not. I remember someone posting something like, “The nation isn’t a democracy; it’s a republic.”

Someone else reposted, “Ever heard of a democratic republic?”

Someone posted that Thomas Jefferson never used the term “democracy” and that he hated democracies.

This is of course utter excrement. And the poster gave no source that could be checked out. I googled and found that Jefferson didn’t use the word often, but he DID use it. In fact he even co-founded a political party with the term “Democratic” RIGHT IN THE TITLE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic-Republican_Party

Bottom line: Utter idiots can post here as well as rational folk who value evidence.

“… you guys hate anything good being said about a GOP person ….”

Thanks for exercising your right to post more utter excrement with nothing to back it up. You serve the good folk on this website, on both sides, as a good example of what both sides should dispose of verbally. Or at a very minimum ignore.