Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for July 02, 2013

An alternative (less controversial) rerun:http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2004/06/30Zonker visits BD recovering in HospitalMike

Any thought on our aid helping to get Kenya voters the IDs needed to vote there?

Amazing how much “Statistical Insignificance” there isn’t when you don’t actually bother looking for it!

My precinct had a very large “Graveyard Vote” main reason I became a Libertarian.

And of course the current Chief Executive hangs his hat in Chicago, “Where being dead doesn’t mean you can’t vote the Democrat Ticket!”

Whoo Hoo!and we have the IRS to help Jim Crow!Keep those adversaries from voting!

The Chicago Politicians certainly know the way!♫ ♪ Happy days are here again ♪♫

It happens rarely because there’s no way to detect it without accurate ID or ALL voters, black AND white. I can’t believe you believe that crap!

When they look in the mirror they don’t see anything.

The Left whines that voter fraud in a rare occurrence. So is murder, so we shouldn’t try to stop it?

Yep. The Supreme Court’s next target is the 13th amendment! How dare those blankety blanks think they should be free!

“………Doing away with laws we no longer need because only loony liberals care to play the race card………………………………………………….

Please look up the definition of ‘liberal.’And because you think we no longer need a law doesn’t mean we should dump it, because then, for sure, we WILL need it.

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Did you forget to take your meds?

Maybe they should run some real golden oldies, from ’70’s. 80’s, etc.

@Ngn33r (left over from yesterday)

In Virginia voting was mandatory before 1776, and at least for a while afterward. I think the requirement was dropped as “burdensome” later, or possible as a means of discouraging the votes of “poor white trash” when the property requirement for voting was dropped. I think this was true in other colonies and states as well, thought I am only certainly about Virginia. I also think you misunderstood me in another regard. I do think that the recent decision was right IN A SENSE, that certain districts and states should not be singled out for extra scrutiny when it comes to changing their voting laws. Time and demography change conditions. Personally, I think that all states and districts should be subject to equal scrutiny before changing their voting laws to ensure than such changes do not favor one group over another. Voter suppression laws are not a problem ONLY in the districts listed in the Voter Rights Act. Frankly, and especially for elections to Federal office, I think there should be one standard nationally, designed to prevent voter fraud AND to ensure legitimate voters are never turned away or left uncounted. This is tricky. A state should not be presume guilty in its acts until it proves itself innocent; but neither should a voter be presumed to be an imposter until he proves himself to be himself by an unreasonable or burdensome test. Early voting should be available to all, and election day should be the LAST day you can vote, not the ONLY day. Furthermore, it should be a holiday in which businesses are by and large closed, so that voters aren’t compelled to get to the polls before or after work or on their lunch hours when a long line may all but prevent them from voting at all. Lastly, voting should required of all registered voters. As it is, an elected official may win with a majority of 51% of a 40% voter turn-out, which means than he is in office with the actual vote of only 1/5 of the electorate. Is it any wonder that the other 80% of the register voters do not consider him to truly represent them, even though he was elected in large part because so many stayed away from the polls?

@ Ray Thomas: It seems to me that, in the day of the ubiquitous computer, it would be fairly simple to ascertain whether the voter in question is alive or dead…or a citizen, for that matter. Seems like some folks see things that aren’t there..

Most politicians have law degrees – more laws mean more business – or at least billable hours. All laws should have an expiration date – that way only a law that works will get resubmitted and it will keep them busy so they won’t (hopefully) dream up even more laws.

Bottom Line: No matter what the Supreme Court does it is wrong we have reached that point, the real puzzle is when does this nation really wake up, one language, one vote all have the ability to succeed, some of the riches people in this nation stared with zero, but you will never succeed if every time you drop something you expect some one else to clean up for you. The “left is handicapping every one” by passing law after law trying to make every one the same, we are all individuals period.

Every state should follow the example of Oregon & Washington State. They don’t have voting booths, it’s all done by mail. No 1 is discriminated against to receiving their ballot at their home address. You can register with the DMV to verify who you say you are. There’s been NO evidence of widespread fraud & there are no long lines to stand in on Election Day.

“The Left whines that voter fraud in a rare occurrence. So is murder, so we shouldn’t try to stop it?”.Actually, I think a more appropraite simile would be “Murder happens rarely, so let’s collect all guns.” Same scattershot approach to a problem by depriving a lot of people of something they consider a right.

You don’t understand. These new laws are not being passed because they hate blacks and Hispanics. It’s being done to ensure Republican dominance. The fact that they hate blacks and Hispanics is incidental.

Everybody wants to claim that the SCOTUS decision stating that the Voting Rights Act provisions designed to end racist restrictive practices in the South, are now no longer necessary, is a blow for Civil Rights. Of course, for those African-American leaders who make their living out of playing up racism to their followers, it is indeed a blow, to their income. By saying that restrictions on Southern states in changing voting laws are no longer necessary, that takes away a major talking point for the black racists among us.

Nasty remark aside, and it’s hard to set something that atrocious aside, just because a majority of one on SCOTUS says racism is over doesn’t make it so. As your own post so amply illustrates.

“I agree with that, but in some jurisdictions they would simply close the Post Office until the day after the election.”.If you think that they would use that ploy to prevent the ballot from being delivered in the first place, the ballots are mailed several weeks in advance. Any deviation from this would arouse notice..…and since the ballots are delivered several weeks in advance, the voters have plenty of time to get them filled out and returned.

The Jim Crow laws were a product of the Democrat party, which required that its membership be white. Voter ID laws are designed to prevent this same Democrat party from stealing elections, which it does regularly.

I do; anyone who says “Democrat Party” is clearly an illiterate who is not worth listening to in the first place.

S-o-o-o many righteous voices speaking for the “disenfranchised” voter!! Has anyone thought to ask these voters if they would have a problem with getting a voter ID? Or is it just the righteous voices that are heard and have an unending supply of righteous reasons that get the ink?

We’ve had stop sign and traffic light laws on the books for so many decades, they are not necessary anymore.

CRASH Oops!

Many elderly, poor and college students have spoken against the draconian voter ID laws, since it causes them undue hardship, as they often don’t have the required ID as readily as others. Also, voters in urban areas need to have the same access to polling places as those in suburban areas. As someone who lived many years in both places, I can testify that they do not have equal access to polling places.

Voters have always had to verify their ID in some way, it is not as if they have not had to do this in the past, just not in the stricter way that they are now asked, as in photo ID, more commonly available to some voters than others. Gun ownership licenses are also acceptable in some places. Those who drive have photo IDs. Many elderly do not and should not, drive. Many poor can not afford to drive. It is not practical for some students to have ID either.

while doing research for a city election in 2009 i found of the 70 people i know in my precinct who voted in 11/08 were 2 dead people [02/08 and 07/08] that is only 3% in order to have a case you have to grab them in the act when i found a few months later that dead had voted nothing could be done

No, you’re the ones who think he’s a socialist/communist. many of us think he’s Bush-lite.

" … nor does it mean special entitlement."

Except for the GOP, of course.

Are you going to pick him up at airport or is he taking a cab?

Garry is the gratest. I have fightin jim all my life. OH Yea! I;m white.

@krisjackson01

" The fact that they hate blacks and Hispanics is incidental."

Actually, it isn’t incidental, it is co-incidental. That is, a higher percentage of blacks and hispanics (and women of all shapes, colours sizes and religions) are poor. In fact, they don’t even hate them, though they do appear by their actions to hold them in considerable contempt.

However, they need them desperately. Without the poor, they are left with no scapegoat for the mess they’ve made. Both sides, no discrimination. In the short term they value the ignorance and desperation of the poor, which tends to cancel any small vestige of judgement they might have retained, and in the long term, a large pool of slave labour to exploit.

That’s why they are so eager to marginalize as many people in as many categories as they possibly can. The poor have little voice and no power.

It’s happened over and over and over again throughout history, and by now it should be intuitively obvious to the most casual observer. It isn’t, because the government has systematically undermined the education system, until what we have is nothing more than a propaganda machine for any special interest which cares to take an interest and isn’t above indoctrinating small children.

An ugly business.

newshound i will send you the city but ineed your address

That’s a good point, Mr N, that we shovel so many people into for-profit prisons, mostly the poor and minorities, and then conveniently take away their right to vote.