Ah hah, At last we know where the Right Wing Tea Baggers get their information. Misinformation, rumor, lies, innuendo and Obama care is all they got. The sad thing is that the voters are politically naïve and believe this drivel.
I don’t see how anyone who has actually listened to Mr. Obama can say he’s a good speaker. It’s all drivel, platitudes to appeal to those who would rather use emotion, than thinking.
You should stop repeating the Republican/Fox News/Tea Party spin on the news. The CBO said that that workers would work about 2% fewer hours because of Obamacare. In terms of total hours that would be the hours worked by 2.3 million full time workers. It does not mean that 2.3 million workers would be laid off.
Both points are being misinterpreted along partisan lines. I can’t believe a thoughtful conservative like Stantis has gone talk-radio stupid in this extended story arc. It’s insulting to the reader’s intelligence, but it’s also sad to have one fewer smart, non-liberal voice out there.
If 2.3 million can retire early because their health care needs are now protected, doesn’t that mean a lot of job vacancies opening up for the under 30s? What’s the problem.
@fbjsr What’s wrong? Well first of all you’re getting your misinformation from a cat (or what ever kind of animal that is). Second the CBO said that a lot of elderly people who work now to pay for the family insurance would no longer HAVE to work. This could amount to about 2 million people. Third the Republican Party is bought and paid for by the likes of the Kock brothers and the National Rifle Assoc.. The Supreme Court hasn’t made a right decision since they said “money equaled freedom of speech” in the Citizen United case, so now these millionaires can pour unlimited amounts of money into political campaigns. Ah the Minimum wage. According to your reckoning every hourly employee should be paid as little as possible so a few Fat Cats can buy thing as cheap as possible. Ask plantation workers how that worked out for them. They were paid nothing. Read your history about the 1930s when men were fighting and dying on the streets of American cities trying to get a decent wage. And men were dying in mines (coal, silver, copper) locked into their jobs because everything they earned went right back to the company. IN the song 16 Tons there is a line " Ya load 16 tons and what do you get, a little bit older and deeper in debt. I owe my soul to the company store". Look that up and see what it means. Workers lived in overpriced company shacks and bought all their goods from over priced company stores on credit and in those days they had debtors prisons so if you didn’t work until you paid off your debt you would be sent to jail until you did pay it off. Is that what you want? It sure sounds like that is what you and your fellow “Tea Baggers” long for.
Remember the political battlefield we once had here called State of the Union or SOTU? It was fairly civil and decent compared to the trolls and other instigators that come here to regurgitate their vitriol. This is becoming another of those great toons where it’s better to view and ignore the comments.
It seems like everything I hear that Republicans supposedly think and say are voiced by Democrats; and everything that Democrats supposedly believe, think and say are repeated by Republicans. As for the Tea Party, the only thing I hear about them is from Democrats and Republicans on these silly comment boards all over the internet. Hardly anyone seems to be blowing their own horn or bragging about what they’ve accomplished. I guess if I want a better job, I should start pointing out the faults of everyone else. The reason I hear so much more about Republicans is because the Democrats and Tea Party complain about them so loudly!
@fbjsr Ah, yes." Create better jobs and grow the economy". That is exactly what the President and the Senate have been trying to do. In Obamas first term the Senate sent More than 50 jobs bills to The House, But ,if one has been paying attention, The House is where bills go to die. Bone-r wouldn’t even allow them to come up to be voted on. All money bills have to be approved by the House and Bone-r is dedicated to saying no to anything Obama proposes even when it is an idea the Republicans favor. “A house divided cannot stand”
@fbjsr You right wingers always try to slip out of a discussion with “show me one thing”. The Senate passed several bills to improve the infrastructure, bridges, roads and the like. That was a several billion dollar jobs bill and Boner said before they would consider it the Senate would have to provide an equal amount in savings and where did they want to get these savings by cutting food stamps, unemployment insurance, welfare. Not a word about the billions in welfare paid to the wealthiest corporations in the country. In oil leases radio and television frequencies cell phone frequencies farm subsidies, non-profit exemptions. The list goes on and on, but you right wingers won’t watch a real news station, instead of Fox and Limburger and Beckerhead. Just for kicks try watching real news on MSNBC. Watch Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O’Donnell. They don’t give opinions or suppositions or take something out of context to try and make it say something it doesn’t say. But you won’t. You’d rather live in the little cocoon the right wing has built for you. Too bad.
The incorrect assumption here is that they will be getting free insurance. The reality is that the people who quit or cut back their hours because they can now afford to pay for their insurance.
Prior to the AHA, the cost of buying insurance if you did not have a job or you were self-employed put insurance out of most people’s reach. If you think you weren’t paying for the uninsured before the AHA, think again. Having to treat the uninsured is one of the excuses for skyrocketing healthcare costs.
When a leftist says “discredited,” I think that word does not mean what they think it means. The loopy ones affirm that raising the minimum wage will have no effect on job formation or retention, as if labor is a commodity different from any other.
common sanse almost 11 years ago
Ah hah, At last we know where the Right Wing Tea Baggers get their information. Misinformation, rumor, lies, innuendo and Obama care is all they got. The sad thing is that the voters are politically naïve and believe this drivel.
SCOTTtheBADGER almost 11 years ago
I don’t see how anyone who has actually listened to Mr. Obama can say he’s a good speaker. It’s all drivel, platitudes to appeal to those who would rather use emotion, than thinking.
6QQTRA6D Premium Member almost 11 years ago
You should stop repeating the Republican/Fox News/Tea Party spin on the news. The CBO said that that workers would work about 2% fewer hours because of Obamacare. In terms of total hours that would be the hours worked by 2.3 million full time workers. It does not mean that 2.3 million workers would be laid off.
Captain Colorado almost 11 years ago
Obama: all show and no performance.
Michael Peterson Premium Member almost 11 years ago
Both points are being misinterpreted along partisan lines. I can’t believe a thoughtful conservative like Stantis has gone talk-radio stupid in this extended story arc. It’s insulting to the reader’s intelligence, but it’s also sad to have one fewer smart, non-liberal voice out there.
danielmkimmel almost 11 years ago
Agreed. This is discredited bilge. Is he even doing the strip anymore or did he farm it out to Mallard Fillmore?
comicsboi Premium Member almost 11 years ago
If 2.3 million can retire early because their health care needs are now protected, doesn’t that mean a lot of job vacancies opening up for the under 30s? What’s the problem.
hackholland almost 11 years ago
… and why is this totally irrelevant and factually incorrect COMIC strip causing much ado? Get a life people… it’s a COMIC strip!
common sanse almost 11 years ago
@fbjsr What’s wrong? Well first of all you’re getting your misinformation from a cat (or what ever kind of animal that is). Second the CBO said that a lot of elderly people who work now to pay for the family insurance would no longer HAVE to work. This could amount to about 2 million people. Third the Republican Party is bought and paid for by the likes of the Kock brothers and the National Rifle Assoc.. The Supreme Court hasn’t made a right decision since they said “money equaled freedom of speech” in the Citizen United case, so now these millionaires can pour unlimited amounts of money into political campaigns. Ah the Minimum wage. According to your reckoning every hourly employee should be paid as little as possible so a few Fat Cats can buy thing as cheap as possible. Ask plantation workers how that worked out for them. They were paid nothing. Read your history about the 1930s when men were fighting and dying on the streets of American cities trying to get a decent wage. And men were dying in mines (coal, silver, copper) locked into their jobs because everything they earned went right back to the company. IN the song 16 Tons there is a line " Ya load 16 tons and what do you get, a little bit older and deeper in debt. I owe my soul to the company store". Look that up and see what it means. Workers lived in overpriced company shacks and bought all their goods from over priced company stores on credit and in those days they had debtors prisons so if you didn’t work until you paid off your debt you would be sent to jail until you did pay it off. Is that what you want? It sure sounds like that is what you and your fellow “Tea Baggers” long for.
Thriller87 almost 11 years ago
Sheep are sheep no matter political line that fall under.
Radical-Knight almost 11 years ago
Remember the political battlefield we once had here called State of the Union or SOTU? It was fairly civil and decent compared to the trolls and other instigators that come here to regurgitate their vitriol. This is becoming another of those great toons where it’s better to view and ignore the comments.
Grampus almost 11 years ago
It seems like everything I hear that Republicans supposedly think and say are voiced by Democrats; and everything that Democrats supposedly believe, think and say are repeated by Republicans. As for the Tea Party, the only thing I hear about them is from Democrats and Republicans on these silly comment boards all over the internet. Hardly anyone seems to be blowing their own horn or bragging about what they’ve accomplished. I guess if I want a better job, I should start pointing out the faults of everyone else. The reason I hear so much more about Republicans is because the Democrats and Tea Party complain about them so loudly!
1995Sidecar almost 11 years ago
It would be interesting to see each party/candidate focus on what they will do for the people rather than what their opponent will do to us.
common sanse almost 11 years ago
@fbjsr Ah, yes." Create better jobs and grow the economy". That is exactly what the President and the Senate have been trying to do. In Obamas first term the Senate sent More than 50 jobs bills to The House, But ,if one has been paying attention, The House is where bills go to die. Bone-r wouldn’t even allow them to come up to be voted on. All money bills have to be approved by the House and Bone-r is dedicated to saying no to anything Obama proposes even when it is an idea the Republicans favor. “A house divided cannot stand”
common sanse almost 11 years ago
@fbjsr You right wingers always try to slip out of a discussion with “show me one thing”. The Senate passed several bills to improve the infrastructure, bridges, roads and the like. That was a several billion dollar jobs bill and Boner said before they would consider it the Senate would have to provide an equal amount in savings and where did they want to get these savings by cutting food stamps, unemployment insurance, welfare. Not a word about the billions in welfare paid to the wealthiest corporations in the country. In oil leases radio and television frequencies cell phone frequencies farm subsidies, non-profit exemptions. The list goes on and on, but you right wingers won’t watch a real news station, instead of Fox and Limburger and Beckerhead. Just for kicks try watching real news on MSNBC. Watch Rachel Maddow or Lawrence O’Donnell. They don’t give opinions or suppositions or take something out of context to try and make it say something it doesn’t say. But you won’t. You’d rather live in the little cocoon the right wing has built for you. Too bad.
IQTech61 almost 11 years ago
The incorrect assumption here is that they will be getting free insurance. The reality is that the people who quit or cut back their hours because they can now afford to pay for their insurance.
Prior to the AHA, the cost of buying insurance if you did not have a job or you were self-employed put insurance out of most people’s reach. If you think you weren’t paying for the uninsured before the AHA, think again. Having to treat the uninsured is one of the excuses for skyrocketing healthcare costs.
jbmlaw01 almost 11 years ago
When a leftist says “discredited,” I think that word does not mean what they think it means. The loopy ones affirm that raising the minimum wage will have no effect on job formation or retention, as if labor is a commodity different from any other.