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TV: People are saying mental illness, misogyny and racism are to blame for the latest mass shooting. Not the easy availability of guns. And if you say that, you are a crazy, chick-hating bigot!
There Are reasonable gun owners who are Not mentally ill, are Not misogynists, and are Not racist. Even if we tried to lock up all the guns in this country, they would still be extremely and always available to the criminal element⊠;)
So one of the nut-jobs killed 3 with a gun and 3 with a knife. Thatâs a taste of the knife-violence weâd have even if all guns magically disappeared.
BTW, this is an invalid argument: âCountry A has/doesnât have B, so we should also have/not have it.â Examples: Country A has state-owned industries, bullet trains, military conscription, socialized medicine, etc. Deciding what America needs should be based on America, not countries that either hate us or wish they were us.
Thatâs right, and being awash in guns is working so terribly well for the US. Whatâs next, a massacre a day? I canât even keep the last weekâs worth straight..Clearly,the answer is better mental health. So letâs screen all 310M Americans and let the gubmint decide whoâs mentally-balanced enough to own guns. That OK with all of you?.The guy in Seattle was disarmed when he stopped to reload. It sickens me that the NRA and its worshippers would have preferred he not need to reload.
Anyone watching the excellent AMC program âTURNâ? The British occupying garrison just confiscated all the guns in town. So who cares what the Australians or anyone else does. We are Americans. Would we be safer without guns? Perhaps; maybe even probably. But we wouldnât be freer. If that means nothing to you, then you, like our President, donât understand America.
@pschearer, Are Canadians, New Zealanders, Australians less free because they didnât rebel? Maybe the Americans (nice gig to take for yourselves the name of a continent) rebelled to carry out what the Pilgrims couldnât do in Holland where they fist went: to discriminate against who wasnât one of them.
Look, all oâ youse: Iâm not stupid enough to go into a cowboy bar and argue gun control, but Iâm not gonna rant and rave about the evil guvâmint taking our guns away either. Iâll keep quiet and enjoy my beer with the rest of âem. -What I would like to do is hide behind the door (be the fly on the wall) listening to a knock-down drawn-out debate between ardent advocates of the two camps. Iâm sure both will present well-martialed reasoned arguments, but methinks the gun advocate will have a more visceral approach; that take being less likely to be the more successful of the two.
Donât think weâre so stupid we donât understand what âour President doesnât understand Americaâ means. He probably understands it far better than you do. And you can disagree and I canât?
ORMouseworks over 10 years ago
There Are reasonable gun owners who are Not mentally ill, are Not misogynists, and are Not racist. Even if we tried to lock up all the guns in this country, they would still be extremely and always available to the criminal element⊠;)
spaced man spliff over 10 years ago
You can talk and you can talk, but at the end of the day the US still has more annual gun-related deaths than any country in the western world.
pschearer Premium Member over 10 years ago
So one of the nut-jobs killed 3 with a gun and 3 with a knife. Thatâs a taste of the knife-violence weâd have even if all guns magically disappeared.
BTW, this is an invalid argument: âCountry A has/doesnât have B, so we should also have/not have it.â Examples: Country A has state-owned industries, bullet trains, military conscription, socialized medicine, etc. Deciding what America needs should be based on America, not countries that either hate us or wish they were us.
kaffekup over 10 years ago
Thatâs right, and being awash in guns is working so terribly well for the US. Whatâs next, a massacre a day? I canât even keep the last weekâs worth straight..Clearly,the answer is better mental health. So letâs screen all 310M Americans and let the gubmint decide whoâs mentally-balanced enough to own guns. That OK with all of you?.The guy in Seattle was disarmed when he stopped to reload. It sickens me that the NRA and its worshippers would have preferred he not need to reload.
kaffekup over 10 years ago
But their politicians were willing to take the heat and lose an election. None of our career politicians have the guts to do that.
TheEtruscan over 10 years ago
I wonder what âa well regulated Militiaâ stands for in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court, what a joke it is!
pschearer Premium Member over 10 years ago
Anyone watching the excellent AMC program âTURNâ? The British occupying garrison just confiscated all the guns in town. So who cares what the Australians or anyone else does. We are Americans. Would we be safer without guns? Perhaps; maybe even probably. But we wouldnât be freer. If that means nothing to you, then you, like our President, donât understand America.
kaffekup over 10 years ago
So, anyone who disagrees with you isnât really an American? Who gave you the authority to determine that? The other birthers?
TheEtruscan over 10 years ago
@pschearer, Are Canadians, New Zealanders, Australians less free because they didnât rebel? Maybe the Americans (nice gig to take for yourselves the name of a continent) rebelled to carry out what the Pilgrims couldnât do in Holland where they fist went: to discriminate against who wasnât one of them.
spaced man spliff over 10 years ago
Look, all oâ youse: Iâm not stupid enough to go into a cowboy bar and argue gun control, but Iâm not gonna rant and rave about the evil guvâmint taking our guns away either. Iâll keep quiet and enjoy my beer with the rest of âem. -What I would like to do is hide behind the door (be the fly on the wall) listening to a knock-down drawn-out debate between ardent advocates of the two camps. Iâm sure both will present well-martialed reasoned arguments, but methinks the gun advocate will have a more visceral approach; that take being less likely to be the more successful of the two.
kaffekup over 10 years ago
Donât think weâre so stupid we donât understand what âour President doesnât understand Americaâ means. He probably understands it far better than you do. And you can disagree and I canât?