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There are those two plaques and also the video disks on teh two Voyager spacecraft, which give the information on the Pioneer plaques , selections from the national Geographic and audio selections of greetings in various languages, music and whale songs
The date on those plaques is written incorrectly. The AD is written after the date. Done correctly it should be before the date. ex. AD 1976 as opposed to 1976 AD. William Safire lamented that he was the one that made the error, a cosmic mistake.
William Safire was a pretentious turd with a superb vocabulary. YYYY AD has been a widely-accepted usage, in English, for centuries. Deferring to the 2000-year-old Latin usage is extreme, even for a congenital Conservative.
Dmajor, I agree with you about Safire. I feel the same about William F. Buckley Jr., too. In education and history books, AD and BC are being replaced with CE and BCE. AD has been replaced by CE which stands for Common Era and BC has been replaced BCE which stands for Before Common EraâŠNeedless to say this upsets some Christions who feel it is another example of them being persecuted, like the non-existent âWar On Christmasâ.
I wonder if the hungry aliens will see the rings around some of our neighboring planets as the Golden Arches.
BTW, I for one have no problem at all with CE/BCE. I donât even mind if a certain movie is renamed One Million Years BCE, as long as we still get to see Raquel Welch in that prehistoric bikini. 8)
DMajor, one of the cords to my guitar shorted out so I needed a new one. I walked into a music store and said I needed a guitar cord, without skipping a beat, the guy asked âHow âbout a B flat minor?.â..
AD YYYY is more correct. YYYY AD is commonly acceptable.
As far as the AD-BC/CE-BCE, I would call that a tempest in a teapot. The question would be âX number of years since or until what event?â
Maybe the question should be further refined as to define what the Common Era is. By whoâs terms? The Romans? The Christians? The Jews? Why not leave things alone instead of mucking them up and making them less clear?
Iâm with AlâŠif weâre referencing âcommon,â it implies that this era comes from a shared touchstoneâand Iâm afraid nobody is going to be in agreement as to what that is. Like Christianity or not, the timeline of BC/AD is at least targeted to one specific era. OtherwiseâŠinvention of gunpowder? The Magna Carta? Hadrianâs wall? Alexander the Great? What is the Common denominator?
Why tie the time line to a specific mythology? After all, Islam and the far east have provided far more useful tools to the world. Other cultures are thousands of years older than those of the western world. We need to adopt a universal method of measurement. We should be using the metric system, but instead cling to our archaic form. The times are changing.
Yâall are proving the heart of the problem. The reason why we donât have a common frame of reference is that human beings, of themselves, canât discover a common frame of reference. Thatâs the central fact of the human condition, even more than death is. We are notoriously unequipped to discover metaphysical truth (even in the philosophy of science, the foundation of this discussion) and notoriously unable and/or unwilling to admit it.
Light - the needed referent - has indeed has come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil! And until that changes (thankfully, one day soon it will), even technical issues like this canât and wonât be resolved to everyoneâs satisfaction.
Whoâs been telling aliens that Brewsterâs the guy to go to for finger food? Was he recorded saying âEat me!â to someone and they made it into a commercial?
margueritem almost 15 years ago
OopsâŠ..
jmcenanly almost 15 years ago
There are those two plaques and also the video disks on teh two Voyager spacecraft, which give the information on the Pioneer plaques , selections from the national Geographic and audio selections of greetings in various languages, music and whale songs
Edcole1961 almost 15 years ago
Do you want French with that?
zero almost 15 years ago
Any chance they could be convinced eating humans will make them stupid? tooâŠ.
wndrwrthg almost 15 years ago
The Kanamits are next on the scene.
wicky almost 15 years ago
Just some spicy spleen nuggets.
Varnes almost 15 years ago
The date on those plaques is written incorrectly. The AD is written after the date. Done correctly it should be before the date. ex. AD 1976 as opposed to 1976 AD. William Safire lamented that he was the one that made the error, a cosmic mistake.
Digital Frog almost 15 years ago
You know, if they brushed their space probes once in a while, they wouldnât have to worry about plaqueâŠ
Nighthawks Premium Member almost 15 years ago
the digital frog scores from long range
ColoradoRider almost 15 years ago
Iâm still trying to understand the aversion to dining inâŠ
Dmajor almost 15 years ago
William Safire was a pretentious turd with a superb vocabulary. YYYY AD has been a widely-accepted usage, in English, for centuries. Deferring to the 2000-year-old Latin usage is extreme, even for a congenital Conservative.
Varnes almost 15 years ago
Dmajor, I agree with you about Safire. I feel the same about William F. Buckley Jr., too. In education and history books, AD and BC are being replaced with CE and BCE. AD has been replaced by CE which stands for Common Era and BC has been replaced BCE which stands for Before Common EraâŠNeedless to say this upsets some Christions who feel it is another example of them being persecuted, like the non-existent âWar On Christmasâ.
Sherlock Watson almost 15 years ago
I wonder if the hungry aliens will see the rings around some of our neighboring planets as the Golden Arches.
BTW, I for one have no problem at all with CE/BCE. I donât even mind if a certain movie is renamed One Million Years BCE, as long as we still get to see Raquel Welch in that prehistoric bikini. 8)
Varnes almost 15 years ago
DMajor, one of the cords to my guitar shorted out so I needed a new one. I walked into a music store and said I needed a guitar cord, without skipping a beat, the guy asked âHow âbout a B flat minor?.â..
robinafox almost 15 years ago
Common Era my foot! Itâs the Christian Era, and they know it!
POPPA1956 almost 15 years ago
AD YYYY is more correct. YYYY AD is commonly acceptable. As far as the AD-BC/CE-BCE, I would call that a tempest in a teapot. The question would be âX number of years since or until what event?â
alan.gurka almost 15 years ago
Maybe the question should be further refined as to define what the Common Era is. By whoâs terms? The Romans? The Christians? The Jews? Why not leave things alone instead of mucking them up and making them less clear?
Kaero almost 15 years ago
Iâm with AlâŠif weâre referencing âcommon,â it implies that this era comes from a shared touchstoneâand Iâm afraid nobody is going to be in agreement as to what that is. Like Christianity or not, the timeline of BC/AD is at least targeted to one specific era. OtherwiseâŠinvention of gunpowder? The Magna Carta? Hadrianâs wall? Alexander the Great? What is the Common denominator?
wndrwrthg almost 15 years ago
Why tie the time line to a specific mythology? After all, Islam and the far east have provided far more useful tools to the world. Other cultures are thousands of years older than those of the western world. We need to adopt a universal method of measurement. We should be using the metric system, but instead cling to our archaic form. The times are changing.
Rakkav almost 15 years ago
Yâall are proving the heart of the problem. The reason why we donât have a common frame of reference is that human beings, of themselves, canât discover a common frame of reference. Thatâs the central fact of the human condition, even more than death is. We are notoriously unequipped to discover metaphysical truth (even in the philosophy of science, the foundation of this discussion) and notoriously unable and/or unwilling to admit it.
Light - the needed referent - has indeed has come into the world, but men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil! And until that changes (thankfully, one day soon it will), even technical issues like this canât and wonât be resolved to everyoneâs satisfaction.
Coyoty Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Whoâs been telling aliens that Brewsterâs the guy to go to for finger food? Was he recorded saying âEat me!â to someone and they made it into a commercial?
Trebor39 almost 15 years ago
Eat them, not me.
pbarnrob almost 15 years ago
The standard is how I and My Neighbors do it, and everybody else is just Wrong! So There!
If you use inches, or centimeters, and I use Cubits, still the fact!
See how easy that was? Divide and conquer - works every time!