Well… (ahem) it’s possible that Agnes’ mother knew “Uncle” Dee-Dee when she was very small…and then for a while, Uncle Joey…(causing a big rift in the band)..and there was Uncle Gene…. and…um…… OK, I think we’ll drop that subject….
And we know Agnes has a great aunt Arthena…. her mother’s actual aunt…. she’s Grandma’s somewhat remote sister,whom I believe she described as mean spirited and rude.
She’s the one they were on the way to visit a few years ago when they got stuck in the snow… Predictably, she had no sympathy for their plight, and I don’t think Grandma would care to seek her company again.
2Old… no, I was saying maybe Grandma was pretty wild, and Agnes’ mom had “Uncles” when she was a little girl.
She’d be about the age of Trout’s mother… but they probably didn’t know each other back then… or maybe ever.
Then she had a baby of her own, when she was presumably a bit young and wild herself, whom she ended up leaving with her mother.
Her mother, whom we know as Grandma, saw what she had wrought, in my version of the story…. and settled down, to raise and protect her granddaughter, whom she re-named Agnes, and try to keep her from following in the footsteps she had inadvertently taught her own daughter.
And Agnes knows nothing about it.
Of course, I could have it all wrong, and all that rock n’ roll stuff could have belonged to Agnes’ mother and not Grandma… but Agnes still wouldn’t know cos she was only a baby, and doesn’t remember her at all.
It could be that the uncles/aunts Gran’ma isn’t talking about are on the other side of the family, the parent who isn’t Grannie’s kid. Gran’ma doesn’t want to mix Agnes with ‘those people’. Having said that, I’m willing to bet Agnes’ Dad is in jail.
I’m wondering whether Tony is just playing with us, given the flexibility of comic strip time. For Agnes and Trout, 1977 is ancient history. If Granny is the age she looks to be, that makes her born in the early 1950s. Which sort of meshes with both her having a child when she was young and wild and the rock & roll hidden stuff. What we really don’t know is how Agnes came to be with Granny. Maybe Agnes’ parents just left one day when she was young and never came back. Stranger things have happened. That might explain about how Granny knows something of Agnes’ background. Granny has never made any complaints about having Agnes either; or comments of any kind.
When Uncle Bud made some cryptic comments about someone else looking like his Uncle Joe or Randal Keen, Daddy asked their sister, Grandma Green about it.She set the record straight with, “Wellll, when Maw died, Paw got kinda sorry. Randal Keen is your uncle.”.She didn’t address the gentleman of mixed race who was also referenced, but I’m reasonably certain I have many more cousins than have been acknowledged in the census.
rshive… "" If Granny is the age she looks to be, that makes her born in the early 1950s??" Well, excuuuse me…. but those born in the early 50’s are only barely 60!!
I don’t even look as old as Grandma (I HOPE!!) and I was born before that!LOL….I know comics time is very elastic…. but Agnes is about 9 or 10…. Almost nobody born before 1960 has a 10-year-old, cos she’d have been over 55 when she gave birth!
She’s “Grandma” cos Agnes is her grandddaughter…. and I thought I remembered hearing that Agnes was left with her as a baby… I know she has said she doesn’t remember her mother.
I think Grandma is 75-ish, though she looks even older…born around 1940…. though with the elasticity of comics time was still young enough to be a groupie in ‘77….and some were in their 30’s anyway.
_Her possibly _ illicit child would be one of Agnes’ parents, probably mother, born in the 70’s or 80’s …who had a baby herself 10 years ago…maybe no father even sticking around, or she ran off with him…in any case leaving that baby with her mother, whom Agnes knows as “Grandma.”
If Grandma’s daughter was the rocker chick back in the 70’s, she’d still have to have had Agnes very late in life, though here we’d have to count on “comics time” even more…cos this strip has been around since 2002 and Agnes was 10 then, too.
Granny is still working “at the plant”. I may be leaning too much on personal experience; but even in the bad old days, women were made to retire from industrial jobs like weaving pretty much on the age of 65. The exception being if you were a maid or domestic, which Granny isn’t. She may look old; but physical labor has never been kind to how women look.
SusanSunshine Premium Member over 9 years ago
Well… (ahem) it’s possible that Agnes’ mother knew “Uncle” Dee-Dee when she was very small…and then for a while, Uncle Joey…(causing a big rift in the band)..and there was Uncle Gene…. and…um…… OK, I think we’ll drop that subject….
And we know Agnes has a great aunt Arthena…. her mother’s actual aunt…. she’s Grandma’s somewhat remote sister,whom I believe she described as mean spirited and rude.
She’s the one they were on the way to visit a few years ago when they got stuck in the snow… Predictably, she had no sympathy for their plight, and I don’t think Grandma would care to seek her company again.
J Short over 9 years ago
The long term memory made her have a short term memory loss.
SusanSunshine Premium Member over 9 years ago
2Old… no, I was saying maybe Grandma was pretty wild, and Agnes’ mom had “Uncles” when she was a little girl.
She’d be about the age of Trout’s mother… but they probably didn’t know each other back then… or maybe ever.
Then she had a baby of her own, when she was presumably a bit young and wild herself, whom she ended up leaving with her mother.
Her mother, whom we know as Grandma, saw what she had wrought, in my version of the story…. and settled down, to raise and protect her granddaughter, whom she re-named Agnes, and try to keep her from following in the footsteps she had inadvertently taught her own daughter.
And Agnes knows nothing about it.
Of course, I could have it all wrong, and all that rock n’ roll stuff could have belonged to Agnes’ mother and not Grandma… but Agnes still wouldn’t know cos she was only a baby, and doesn’t remember her at all.
jadoo823 over 9 years ago
…or grandma had several children out of wedlock (as that old-fashioned saying goes) and gave them up for adoption…
warjoski Premium Member over 9 years ago
It could be that the uncles/aunts Gran’ma isn’t talking about are on the other side of the family, the parent who isn’t Grannie’s kid. Gran’ma doesn’t want to mix Agnes with ‘those people’. Having said that, I’m willing to bet Agnes’ Dad is in jail.
rshive over 9 years ago
I’m wondering whether Tony is just playing with us, given the flexibility of comic strip time. For Agnes and Trout, 1977 is ancient history. If Granny is the age she looks to be, that makes her born in the early 1950s. Which sort of meshes with both her having a child when she was young and wild and the rock & roll hidden stuff. What we really don’t know is how Agnes came to be with Granny. Maybe Agnes’ parents just left one day when she was young and never came back. Stranger things have happened. That might explain about how Granny knows something of Agnes’ background. Granny has never made any complaints about having Agnes either; or comments of any kind.
David Huie Green AmericaIsGreatItHasUs over 9 years ago
When Uncle Bud made some cryptic comments about someone else looking like his Uncle Joe or Randal Keen, Daddy asked their sister, Grandma Green about it.She set the record straight with, “Wellll, when Maw died, Paw got kinda sorry. Randal Keen is your uncle.”.She didn’t address the gentleman of mixed race who was also referenced, but I’m reasonably certain I have many more cousins than have been acknowledged in the census.
SusanSunshine Premium Member over 9 years ago
rshive… "" If Granny is the age she looks to be, that makes her born in the early 1950s??" Well, excuuuse me…. but those born in the early 50’s are only barely 60!!
I don’t even look as old as Grandma (I HOPE!!) and I was born before that!LOL….I know comics time is very elastic…. but Agnes is about 9 or 10…. Almost nobody born before 1960 has a 10-year-old, cos she’d have been over 55 when she gave birth!
She’s “Grandma” cos Agnes is her grandddaughter…. and I thought I remembered hearing that Agnes was left with her as a baby… I know she has said she doesn’t remember her mother.
I think Grandma is 75-ish, though she looks even older…born around 1940…. though with the elasticity of comics time was still young enough to be a groupie in ‘77….and some were in their 30’s anyway.
_Her possibly _ illicit child would be one of Agnes’ parents, probably mother, born in the 70’s or 80’s …who had a baby herself 10 years ago…maybe no father even sticking around, or she ran off with him…in any case leaving that baby with her mother, whom Agnes knows as “Grandma.”
If Grandma’s daughter was the rocker chick back in the 70’s, she’d still have to have had Agnes very late in life, though here we’d have to count on “comics time” even more…cos this strip has been around since 2002 and Agnes was 10 then, too.
rshive over 9 years ago
Granny is still working “at the plant”. I may be leaning too much on personal experience; but even in the bad old days, women were made to retire from industrial jobs like weaving pretty much on the age of 65. The exception being if you were a maid or domestic, which Granny isn’t. She may look old; but physical labor has never been kind to how women look.