Do I remember a Dem Congress passing the Patriot act? Now what is the party of the Prez who just renewed it? Who’s phone did Nixon tap? Was he the guy who got us out of Vietnam and opened diplomatic relations with China? I have a vague memory of two brothers from Mass who found phone taps convenient. What were their names? Come on, one put ground troops in the most unpopular war since the War between the States. Then his successor tapped the Panthers, no he used the “N” word while reluctantly passing the Civil Rights act..
Them Damned Reps are to be blamed for everything.
Historians can tell you that FDR had a field day with internal spying that would be blatantly illegal now. Of course he had a war to fight but a lot of it was focused on domestic politics and on his allies as well as opponents. There were good reasons why VP Wallace was dropped in 1944.
Thanx, Lew. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people with fecal material for brains love to blame conservatives for perceived, unfounded conspiracies but, when there’s clear evidence of HUGE government intrusion into our personal lives (can they pronounce “Socialism”?), suddenly they’re blind, deaf and dumb to all of it.
“Your 14 minutes of tape are ready, Mr. Nixon.” Gerald Ford “got us” out of Viet Nam- uh, we lost that one? Reagan “conquered” Grenada, with more friendly fire losses than there were “hostiles” on the island. Over 600 civilian dead, plus our losses, to capture one dinky drug dealer (who Meese set up in the business with North) in Panama. Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, and those “30 minute wars” in Afghanistan and Iraq– yep- them “conservatives” have had top level communications for some time.
It may have been President Bush who proposed universal warrentless wiretapping but it was President Obama who voted for it as a senator (after making a campaign pledge to lead a filibuster against it) and signed it into law as president.
Obama sure LOVES stretching that patriot act as far as he can to have access to every mode of private communication, with or without cause. Obama has morphed the thing into the likes of communist USSR, where people had to go whisper in their bathrooms. The Patriot act at least had boundaries under Bush.
Llewellenbruce over 14 years ago
Must be a Richard Nixon wannabe.
pouncingtiger over 14 years ago
That Senator is from the Dubya Administration.
Pacejv over 14 years ago
The Party of ‘no’ or the Party of ‘know’ ?
Charles Brobst Premium Member over 14 years ago
Very Republican of him.
wicky over 14 years ago
No, no, he is the ideal democrat.
Dkram over 14 years ago
The Belfry rings.
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lewisbower over 14 years ago
Do I remember a Dem Congress passing the Patriot act? Now what is the party of the Prez who just renewed it? Who’s phone did Nixon tap? Was he the guy who got us out of Vietnam and opened diplomatic relations with China? I have a vague memory of two brothers from Mass who found phone taps convenient. What were their names? Come on, one put ground troops in the most unpopular war since the War between the States. Then his successor tapped the Panthers, no he used the “N” word while reluctantly passing the Civil Rights act.. Them Damned Reps are to be blamed for everything.
Rise22 over 14 years ago
Can anyone say “Corruption from BOTH parties?”
ses1066 over 14 years ago
Historians can tell you that FDR had a field day with internal spying that would be blatantly illegal now. Of course he had a war to fight but a lot of it was focused on domestic politics and on his allies as well as opponents. There were good reasons why VP Wallace was dropped in 1944.
treBsdrawkcaB over 14 years ago
Thanx, Lew. It never ceases to amaze me how quickly people with fecal material for brains love to blame conservatives for perceived, unfounded conspiracies but, when there’s clear evidence of HUGE government intrusion into our personal lives (can they pronounce “Socialism”?), suddenly they’re blind, deaf and dumb to all of it.
Must be Bush’s fault!
Rise22 over 14 years ago
Woodrow Wilson imprisoned US citizens just for speaking out against his policies….look it up….
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
“Your 14 minutes of tape are ready, Mr. Nixon.” Gerald Ford “got us” out of Viet Nam- uh, we lost that one? Reagan “conquered” Grenada, with more friendly fire losses than there were “hostiles” on the island. Over 600 civilian dead, plus our losses, to capture one dinky drug dealer (who Meese set up in the business with North) in Panama. Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, and those “30 minute wars” in Afghanistan and Iraq– yep- them “conservatives” have had top level communications for some time.
WaitingMan over 14 years ago
It may have been President Bush who proposed universal warrentless wiretapping but it was President Obama who voted for it as a senator (after making a campaign pledge to lead a filibuster against it) and signed it into law as president.
starguy over 14 years ago
“BUSH!!! CHENEY!!! HALLIBURTON!!!”
Proof that lefties are not in their right minds (or is that “right” minds?).
mrslukeskywalker over 14 years ago
Obama sure LOVES stretching that patriot act as far as he can to have access to every mode of private communication, with or without cause. Obama has morphed the thing into the likes of communist USSR, where people had to go whisper in their bathrooms. The Patriot act at least had boundaries under Bush.
Just keep whining about Bush.
Blind fools.
JDubya over 14 years ago
Hey pouncingtiger! I resemble that remark! ;o)
1148559 over 14 years ago
@ Rise22,
I can, and often do.
I saw a political cartoon once which showed a “hillbilly” type with a double barreled shotgun.
First panel caption: “See this here shotgun? The right barrel is fer Republicans. Ah hate ‘em.”
He then goes into a tirade about Republicans.
In the next panel, he is panting a bit, then, in the last panel, he says: “The other barrel? That’s fer Demercrats.”
freeholder1 over 14 years ago
I know, Mrs. Luke. And I was so comfortable with it morphing into a Nazi Germany the 8 years before that.
doit over 14 years ago
Left wingers and privacy just don’t get along in the same room. The same can be said for the law in general.