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Iām not sure of the rules, but Iāve noticed before that the English and American uses of singular and plural are quite different. In this case, we Colonials would say āBrazil has wonā because we consider Brazil, the country, as a single entity. It seems the Brits say āhaveā as they consider Brazil to be composed of many, so they use the plural.
Rather ironic of you to say that, bookworm0812, inasmuch as you used ātheā instead of ātheyā and ātheyāreā instead of ātheir.ā And as Sandfan pointed out, the use of āhaveā is grammatically correct because the mindset in Britain is to think of the Brazilian team members as individuals, not as a single unit as we would do here in the States. The rule is that when members of a group are considered to have acted separately, the plural verb is required. The singular is only correct if the team members are considered to have acted together as a single unit.
Brit usage of plural verbs for plural entities does make a certain amount of sense, but on the whole I prefer to speak American.British: "The audience were bemused by the performance.āAmerican: āThe crowd pelted the band with rocks and garbage.ā
itās āhaveā. English people use it the same way as in āhow many times HAVE the NY Yankees won the World Series?ā Theyāre speaking of Brazil the National Soccer Team, not the country.
Templo S.U.D. over 9 years ago
Well played, Chalkie. Well played (You too, Andy.)
TREEINTHEWIND over 9 years ago
Itās not the first time that someone has been done in by a speaker phone settingā¦ā¦ā¦..
John M over 9 years ago
@beviek
It appears the Great Pumpkin might not be everything he believes
banks00wv over 9 years ago
Considering that they are English, shouldnāt they be using proper English? āHow many times has Brazil wonāā¦not āhaveā won.
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member over 9 years ago
I havenāt commented here in a long time.Andy is still high in my queue. Got tired of the trolls. Are they still here in abundance?
Happy, happy, happy!!! Premium Member over 9 years ago
Happy Halloween everyone. Play safe!
maverick1usa over 9 years ago
Happy Halloween or All Hallows Day Cappers!
Sandfan over 9 years ago
Iām not sure of the rules, but Iāve noticed before that the English and American uses of singular and plural are quite different. In this case, we Colonials would say āBrazil has wonā because we consider Brazil, the country, as a single entity. It seems the Brits say āhaveā as they consider Brazil to be composed of many, so they use the plural.
Sandfan over 9 years ago
If you aināt cheatinā, you aināt tryinā!
legaleagle48 over 9 years ago
Rather ironic of you to say that, bookworm0812, inasmuch as you used ātheā instead of ātheyā and ātheyāreā instead of ātheir.ā And as Sandfan pointed out, the use of āhaveā is grammatically correct because the mindset in Britain is to think of the Brazilian team members as individuals, not as a single unit as we would do here in the States. The rule is that when members of a group are considered to have acted separately, the plural verb is required. The singular is only correct if the team members are considered to have acted together as a single unit.
Godfreydaniel over 9 years ago
Brit usage of plural verbs for plural entities does make a certain amount of sense, but on the whole I prefer to speak American.British: "The audience were bemused by the performance.āAmerican: āThe crowd pelted the band with rocks and garbage.ā
Godfreydaniel over 9 years ago
@Mai GriffinI never claimed anybody was uneducated, British or American, just pointing out one of many differences.
K M over 9 years ago
Thatās why I put my phone on vibrate in an environment like that.
armondo77 over 3 years ago
itās āhaveā. English people use it the same way as in āhow many times HAVE the NY Yankees won the World Series?ā Theyāre speaking of Brazil the National Soccer Team, not the country.