Right. Reagan was the draft dodger, joined Ft. Roach, the training film factory set up to protect key Hollywood types in WW-II. When most found out the scheme, they volunteered for overseas assignments – actors for almost front line morale booster shows, cinematogaphers for combat photographers, special effects modelers for target models, etc. Reagan lived the war in his Bel Aire mansion and never even made a war bond tour – Carol Lombard got killed returning from one of those.
“I’ll give him three days of respect before pointing out who he really was.”
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I’ll give you who John Glenn really was in three paragraphs, right now. One of his political opponents was a businessman who criticized Glenn for never having had a “real job”. Glenn’s response:
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I spent 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I lived through two wars. I flew 149 missions. I was in the space program. It wasn’t my checkbook, it was my life that was on the line.
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You go with me as I did out to a veterans’ hospital and look those men with their mangled bodies in the eye and tell them that they didn’t hold a job. You go with me to any Gold Star mother and you look her in the eye and you tell her that her son did not hold a job. You go to Arlington National Cemetery — where I have more friends than I’d like to remember — and you think about this nation, and you tell me that those people didn’t have a job.
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I tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men, some men, who held a job. And they required a dedication to purpose, a love of country, and a dedication to duty that was more important than life itself.
When the war started … Ford was already in uniform and had finished five pictures in the year and a half since STAGECOACH. Amongst them were YOUNG MR. LINCOLN, THE GRAPES OF WRATH, THE LONG VOYAGE HOME, and HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY. But for Ford these were just movies. The war would be the greatest adventure of his life — a call to arms by the country he loved that had given him everything. It also set up a conflict between Wayne and Ford that would ultimately push Wayne into politics in a major way.
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John Wayne was thirty-one-years old, married, and supporting three children when the war began. His newfound stardom was a realization of a dream he was not in a hurry to relinquish to a uniform. Throughout the war, Ford urged the young actor “to get in it,” and each time Wayne would beg off until he finished “just one more picture.” Ford was disappointed to say the least, and he let Wayne know it. Wayne was growing richer as other men died. As the war continued, Ford’s strong disappointment fueled a growing conflict between the men and fostered a sense of guilt within Wayne. Wayne’s decision to stay out of the service would haunt him for the rest of his life.
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First of all, Wayne was born in 1907, and would have been 34, not 31. At that age, and with 3 kids, he would not have been draft material. So, not a draft dodger. Nevertheless, he chose to stay at home, while others did not. Jimmy Stewart, of course, is the prime example. He joined before the war started and worked very hard and refused to serve by making movies. He had to fight to get out of training and into combat. He flew 20 missions, including at least one over Berlin. Missing from the list of actors above is Clark Gable. Gable flew 5 missions as a gunner on a bomber. Gable
Have you ever seen the newsreel footage of the attack on Midway? Much of it was shot by John Ford himself. He was headed to Australia and they made a refueling stop at the time of the attack. Not bad camera work for one with one eye.
Michael Simone Premium Member over 7 years ago
Truly a hero and inspiration to millions. Godspeed, Mr. Glenn.
habfan40 over 7 years ago
God speed John Glen
Moxie over 7 years ago
DaBoogadie over 7 years ago
You can lie now or lie latter, you are never truthful on these pages. That you can even type the word ‘respect’ is an amazement.
mlester101 creator over 7 years ago
The simple fact that you posted this insulting tripe negates your premise. You couldn’t carry the mans jock.
hippogriff over 7 years ago
jack75287
Right. Reagan was the draft dodger, joined Ft. Roach, the training film factory set up to protect key Hollywood types in WW-II. When most found out the scheme, they volunteered for overseas assignments – actors for almost front line morale booster shows, cinematogaphers for combat photographers, special effects modelers for target models, etc. Reagan lived the war in his Bel Aire mansion and never even made a war bond tour – Carol Lombard got killed returning from one of those.
Uncle Joe Premium Member over 7 years ago
“I’ll give him three days of respect before pointing out who he really was.”
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I’ll give you who John Glenn really was in three paragraphs, right now. One of his political opponents was a businessman who criticized Glenn for never having had a “real job”. Glenn’s response:
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I spent 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I lived through two wars. I flew 149 missions. I was in the space program. It wasn’t my checkbook, it was my life that was on the line.
.
You go with me as I did out to a veterans’ hospital and look those men with their mangled bodies in the eye and tell them that they didn’t hold a job. You go with me to any Gold Star mother and you look her in the eye and you tell her that her son did not hold a job. You go to Arlington National Cemetery — where I have more friends than I’d like to remember — and you think about this nation, and you tell me that those people didn’t have a job.
.
I tell you, Howard Metzenbaum, you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men, some men, who held a job. And they required a dedication to purpose, a love of country, and a dedication to duty that was more important than life itself.
braindead Premium Member over 7 years ago
“I’ll give him three days of respect before pointing out who he really was. Every man deserves at least that when they pass.”
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Why wait?
So-called ‘conservatives’ “know” that all Democrats go to Hell, right?
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member over 7 years ago
Here’s another view on John Ford and John Wayne and the war.
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/john-ford-and-john-wayne-pappy-and-the-duke/594/.
When the war started … Ford was already in uniform and had finished five pictures in the year and a half since STAGECOACH. Amongst them were YOUNG MR. LINCOLN, THE GRAPES OF WRATH, THE LONG VOYAGE HOME, and HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY. But for Ford these were just movies. The war would be the greatest adventure of his life — a call to arms by the country he loved that had given him everything. It also set up a conflict between Wayne and Ford that would ultimately push Wayne into politics in a major way.
.
John Wayne was thirty-one-years old, married, and supporting three children when the war began. His newfound stardom was a realization of a dream he was not in a hurry to relinquish to a uniform. Throughout the war, Ford urged the young actor “to get in it,” and each time Wayne would beg off until he finished “just one more picture.” Ford was disappointed to say the least, and he let Wayne know it. Wayne was growing richer as other men died. As the war continued, Ford’s strong disappointment fueled a growing conflict between the men and fostered a sense of guilt within Wayne. Wayne’s decision to stay out of the service would haunt him for the rest of his life.
.
First of all, Wayne was born in 1907, and would have been 34, not 31. At that age, and with 3 kids, he would not have been draft material. So, not a draft dodger. Nevertheless, he chose to stay at home, while others did not. Jimmy Stewart, of course, is the prime example. He joined before the war started and worked very hard and refused to serve by making movies. He had to fight to get out of training and into combat. He flew 20 missions, including at least one over Berlin. Missing from the list of actors above is Clark Gable. Gable flew 5 missions as a gunner on a bomber. Gable
hippogriff over 7 years ago
youcantbeserious
Have you ever seen the newsreel footage of the attack on Midway? Much of it was shot by John Ford himself. He was headed to Australia and they made a refueling stop at the time of the attack. Not bad camera work for one with one eye.