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Regrettably, Mr. Stantis has quite accurately portrayed our current national dilemma. âCompromiseâ has become anathema. âCommon groundâ has to be avoided at all costs, lest âtheyâ receive something more than âus.â There can be no dialogue when no speaker will listen to any other. Our diverse opinions once allowed us to arrive at a middle ground that was workable even if not completely satisfactory to either side. We could respect differing opinions, since we all believed that all were working for the common good of the whole. Civil discourse has become just another oxymoron. Well done, Mr. Stantis, for pointing out that the fault does not lie in our stars but in ourselves.
Compromise isnât possible anymore with a GOP that wonât act in good faith.
A GOP that has admitted (several times) on tape that the reason for Voter ID is to suppress the vote of Dems.
A GOP that wonât attempt to secure voting machines from hacking.
A GOP that gerrymanders States to disenfranchise Dems.
A GOP that complains and lies about the Health Care plan being rammed through: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/10/us/republican-health-care-process.html
Then writes a Tax Scam bill in 18 hours⊠https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/1/16726234/handwritten-republican-tax-bill
Pretends to be Fiscally Conservative⊠https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fiscal-deficit/republican-tax-cuts-to-fuel-historic-u-s-deficits-cbo-idUSKBN1HG2RW
Stole a Supreme Court Justice after talking about what a good pick he would be.
A GOP that supports Nazis, traitors, gun nuts, climate-deniers, nationalists, oligarchs, and religious zealots.
But ignores the obvious GOP abuses of emoluments and power.
All it takes to believe that this is a time of unique dissension is a bad memory. Eras of Good Feeling are few and far between in a democracy. The first and namesake period was just after the War of 1812. This was probably a good thing, because a young and unstable country hadnât been able to agree on much up to that point. Dissent peaked with the Civil War, again with labor strife in the 1880s and 90s, with the Depression, the Civil Rights/Vietnam era and Nixon. Only those whose political memory goes back no farther than Reagan think that weâre going to fly apart soon.
Well, the GOP presidents have been a little vague in their loyalties since 1968.
Richard Nixon colluded with the N. Vietnamese to delay peace talks. LBJ knew about it and felt that confidence of the USA was more important (How many Americans did Nixon add to the death toll do you think?);
Of course, we will never know if Fordâs pardon of Nixon was Quid pro quo for the VP job.
Ronald Reagan presided over the Iran / Contra affair. Col. North got immunity and then took 100% the blame, even though a mere Marine Lieutenant Colonel could not have done it all on his own.
Bush the Elder correctly called Reaganâsâ âSupply Side Economics as âVoodoo Economicsâ. Then he joined the team as VP.
Bush the Lesser is an unindicted war criminal for his war of choice against Iraq. And his admin outed CIA agent Valerie Plame over something her husband wrote.
Bush the Lesser ignored the warnings of Osama Bin Laden about to attack the US. Put $2 Trillion of the two wars off the books, and presided over the militaryâs loss of Billions in cash in Iraq.
Now with Trump, Don Jr. volunteered the email and the statement that he intended to collude with the âRussian Gov lawyerâ to dig up dirt on Clinton. Which falls under the crimes of espionage, various computer crimes, and receiving stolen property. You donât need to have receive any actual info of value to be convicted.
Funny thing about some crimes⊠Sex with an underage boy / girl, terrorist bomb making, espionage, and treason only require the intent and related action(s) to commit the crime. Don Jr provided the email evidence. (And it doesnât matter in the least if he didnât know it was a crime.)
So while not paragons of virtue themselves, the Dems donât seem to have been actual traitors over the past 45 â 50 yearsâŠ.
dwane.scoty1 almost 7 years ago
I get the impression Stantis is struggling to find a new, Bash Trump theme!
Bookworm almost 7 years ago
Regrettably, Mr. Stantis has quite accurately portrayed our current national dilemma. âCompromiseâ has become anathema. âCommon groundâ has to be avoided at all costs, lest âtheyâ receive something more than âus.â There can be no dialogue when no speaker will listen to any other. Our diverse opinions once allowed us to arrive at a middle ground that was workable even if not completely satisfactory to either side. We could respect differing opinions, since we all believed that all were working for the common good of the whole. Civil discourse has become just another oxymoron. Well done, Mr. Stantis, for pointing out that the fault does not lie in our stars but in ourselves.
Bruce1253 almost 7 years ago
Cute cat videos! The urge to run away when someone says âHold my beer and watch this!â
Silly Season almost 7 years ago
Compromise isnât possible anymore with a GOP that wonât act in good faith.
A GOP that has admitted (several times) on tape that the reason for Voter ID is to suppress the vote of Dems.
A GOP that wonât attempt to secure voting machines from hacking.
A GOP that gerrymanders States to disenfranchise Dems.
A GOP that complains and lies about the Health Care plan being rammed through: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/07/10/us/republican-health-care-process.html
Then writes a Tax Scam bill in 18 hours⊠https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/1/16726234/handwritten-republican-tax-bill
Pretends to be Fiscally Conservative⊠https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-fiscal-deficit/republican-tax-cuts-to-fuel-historic-u-s-deficits-cbo-idUSKBN1HG2RW
Stole a Supreme Court Justice after talking about what a good pick he would be.
A GOP that supports Nazis, traitors, gun nuts, climate-deniers, nationalists, oligarchs, and religious zealots.
But ignores the obvious GOP abuses of emoluments and power.
wagnertinatlanta almost 7 years ago
SILLY SEASON: You are indeed well named.
Silly Season almost 7 years ago
Wagnertinatlanta: Yes. It is indeed silly of me to expect GOPâers to work in good faith.
Try attacking my arguments instead of my handle.
wagnertinatlanta almost 7 years ago
All it takes to believe that this is a time of unique dissension is a bad memory. Eras of Good Feeling are few and far between in a democracy. The first and namesake period was just after the War of 1812. This was probably a good thing, because a young and unstable country hadnât been able to agree on much up to that point. Dissent peaked with the Civil War, again with labor strife in the 1880s and 90s, with the Depression, the Civil Rights/Vietnam era and Nixon. Only those whose political memory goes back no farther than Reagan think that weâre going to fly apart soon.
Silly Season almost 7 years ago
Well, the GOP presidents have been a little vague in their loyalties since 1968.
Richard Nixon colluded with the N. Vietnamese to delay peace talks. LBJ knew about it and felt that confidence of the USA was more important (How many Americans did Nixon add to the death toll do you think?);
Of course, we will never know if Fordâs pardon of Nixon was Quid pro quo for the VP job.
Ronald Reagan presided over the Iran / Contra affair. Col. North got immunity and then took 100% the blame, even though a mere Marine Lieutenant Colonel could not have done it all on his own.
Bush the Elder correctly called Reaganâsâ âSupply Side Economics as âVoodoo Economicsâ. Then he joined the team as VP.
Bush the Lesser is an unindicted war criminal for his war of choice against Iraq. And his admin outed CIA agent Valerie Plame over something her husband wrote.
Bush the Lesser ignored the warnings of Osama Bin Laden about to attack the US. Put $2 Trillion of the two wars off the books, and presided over the militaryâs loss of Billions in cash in Iraq.
Now with Trump, Don Jr. volunteered the email and the statement that he intended to collude with the âRussian Gov lawyerâ to dig up dirt on Clinton. Which falls under the crimes of espionage, various computer crimes, and receiving stolen property. You donât need to have receive any actual info of value to be convicted.
Funny thing about some crimes⊠Sex with an underage boy / girl, terrorist bomb making, espionage, and treason only require the intent and related action(s) to commit the crime. Don Jr provided the email evidence. (And it doesnât matter in the least if he didnât know it was a crime.)
So while not paragons of virtue themselves, the Dems donât seem to have been actual traitors over the past 45 â 50 yearsâŠ.