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Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for October 21, 2011
Transcript:
Voice: End the oligarchy! End the oligarchy! Alex: Okay, they're gone now, Leo... you're safe now. You're not in Afghanistan. You're with me... Toggle; I... I know. Alex: You want me to drive? Toggle: N-n-no. I... I... fine! Alex: You sure? Toggle: Definitely. Keep eye... p-peeled for... donkey carcasses!
BE THIS GUY over 13 years ago
Alex did the right thing! Leo let Alex drive.
pouncingtiger over 13 years ago
Leo, let Alex drive before both of you are playing harps.
BE THIS GUY over 13 years ago
Those OWS people are slobs.
JP Steve Premium Member over 13 years ago
Yay, Alex! Youâre there for Leo!
cdhaley over 13 years ago
Question: What are two differences between NY and Kandahar?(1) Both have trashy streets, but at least Bloomberg clears away the donkey carcasses (= Weiner and other dead Democrats)(2) No suicide bombers (yet) among the OWS crowds
DylanThomas3.14159 over 13 years ago
Leo obviously needs more treatment. Just as Ray does. BD seems to have stabilized much better. What are the residual effects of post-traumatic stress disorder? Is Trudeau being accurate to evidence-based medicine? Alex needs to be more like Boopsie if sheâs going to continue to hang in for her man.
AKHenderson Premium Member over 13 years ago
Stay out of Baltimore! And Boston!.Those cities could use a little taste of Sorkh Razil.
Whitecamry over 13 years ago
Leoâs having Afghanistan flashbacks of Iraq.
awaysaway over 13 years ago
I want a T-Shirt that says âSorkh Razilâ or perhaps âSorkh Razil lost my $50millionâ
babka Premium Member over 13 years ago
America needs more treatment. or any.
progressivetexasdemocrat over 13 years ago
@pcha1969 Agreed! A reminder and hint: Not every trigger is dramatic or obvious, they can also sneak up during a quiet moment on a park bench.
GTphile over 13 years ago
Note the architectural detail in panel 2. GT goes the extra step.
ossiningaling over 13 years ago
Iâm no expert but letting Leo maintain control of his faculties makes sense to me. War, like most traumatic experiences, never leaves you.
GTphile over 13 years ago
Donât fretâŠit will probably be a recurrent theme.
leftwing_conspirator over 13 years ago
This is pretty much how those of us who are attached to vets with severe PTSD end up learning about triggers. Unfortunately itâs a lot of trial and error. Sheâs right though, Leo needs to get out from behind the drivers seat, otherwise it could end up getting bad. Thanks to GT for making this realistic.
Stephen Gilberg over 13 years ago
End the oligarchy? All governments, including âanarchy,â are effectively oligarchies.
ChukLitl Premium Member over 13 years ago
Donkey carcasses is a good one. My cab driver in Karachi took it in stride. If you think traffic is bad in NY, throw in donkey carts & camels.
Spamgaard over 13 years ago
You canât find the donkey carcasses when youâre neck deep in elephant dung.
PappyFiddle over 13 years ago
They voted in a flock if scoundrels who gave away our national treasury to their bank buddies and bogus solar companies, and now they think itâs tragic that the economyâs collasping and the moneyâs all in the hands of a few.
Z Blair Premium Member over 13 years ago
SPOT On Mr. Trudeau! Thank you for adding this very important theme to the story line. So many service members suffer from PTSD, and are overwhelmed. They need coping skills and help to sort it out and have a better quality of life.
DylanThomas3.14159 over 13 years ago
U bitch, babygirl.
BE THIS GUY over 13 years ago
In case you didnât know, DT is praising you when he says, âu bitchâŠâ
DylanThomas3.14159 over 13 years ago
âGeneral Eyechartâs carcass being rolled down the streets.â Wasnât Mussoliniâs fat carcass mutilated by Italian mobz after he fell from power as the allies were booting behind from the south during WWII?
trncobrien Premium Member over 13 years ago
Toggleâs an Iraq vet, not Afghanistan.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
My spousal unit has put up with my PTSD for 42 years. A couple of months ago, a âtriggerâ set me off while driving in a "hazard reminder situation. She had to fight HER instincts, and let ME continue to drive. Our son deals with PTSD from Bosnia, Iraq, and elsewhere, and heâs very familiar with those âcarcassesâ, plus foam-formed fireplugs, cinder blocks that arenât, and vehicles parked where they shouldnât be. Our troops coming home today have a lot of âevery day itemsâ that can represent a lethal threat- it was easier after coming home from âNam where they didnât have as much âcivilizationâ.
wwh85cp over 13 years ago
The worst annual heap of (actual) garbage in DC is the crap left behind after the Right to Life March.Second place? The detritus from the Gay Pride Parade.I HATE walking in downtown DC after either one.
DylanThomas3.14159 over 13 years ago
There are plenty too many of both right-wing slobs and left-wing slobs. Nuf sed.
Kirk Sinclair over 13 years ago
@dylanThomasPI â the difference is, today we have right wing media which deliberately creates confusion and division by playing to the fears and ignorance of those not educated enough to see through how theyâre being manipulated by this media. They deliberately create âright wing slobsâ or bullies, who try to intimidate anyone who thinks differently. All totalitarian regimes â on the left or the right â do this.:Itâs the oldest trick in the book â the masses overwhelmingly outnumber the few at the top, and so those at the top pit one group against another, to divide and conquer. We waste enormous energy on a manufactured right vs left divide, or any other division (race, religion, or ethnicities are good candidates) that can be exploited by the few at the top. The Koch bros and those like them, can remain behind the scenes, while the propagandized mob does their work for them.:As for âleft wing slobsâ â yeah there are some, but they donât have the full force and weight of the âmoneyed aristocracyâ (as Thomas Jefferson put it) behind them.
8arkay over 13 years ago
@DylanThomas, Tea Party gatherings are when the surrounding vicinity gets cleaned up even cleaner than it was when they got there.
I saw it happen a number of times in D.C. The OWS and similar types left mountains of trash; the Tea Party an similar types lined up and policed up everything, placing it in or right beside the trash cans.
Itâs called being responsible and socially conscious. Iâd rather hang out with those who clean up after themselves, than those who feel entitled to trash wherever they are, expecting someone else to clean up for them.
Being confirmed litterers is not how one wins over the uncommittedâŠ
cdhaley over 13 years ago
Oligarchy, democracy, anarchyThese terms are from Platoâs Republic. Platoâs famous book 8 describes how the republic decays when its Philosopher-king dies and is succeeded by his well-meaning but glory-seeking son, who scorns wealth and sacrifices himself in battle to preserve the republic.With peace achieved, the oligarchy (rule by the few) takes over (oligarchy is the same as plutocracy which means government by the wealthy). Oligarchs and plutocrats are like our CEOs with their lobbyists: they are proud of their money, whereas the aristocrats they replaced were ashamed to flaunt their wealth.Oligarchy gives way to democracy when those working or fighting for the plutocrats realize that their superiors are in fact lazy cowards. In a democracy, everyone has an equal stake in the nationâs wealth and health.Democracy sounds even better than the original republic that depended on a Philosopher-king, but in fact it is far worse, as Plato explains. The republic was based on justice and the P-kingâs job was to be constantly on the lookout for injustice suffered by any member of the commonwealth.Unfortunately, democracy substitutes bare mathematical equality for justice. Every adult gets one vote and the majority that prevails stomps on the rights of the losing minority, so that instead of a just democracy (or a commonwealth), you get something like a ânumerocracyâ: not active rule by the people (democracy), but passive rule by the majority that holds the power or wealth.Plato says this pseudo-democracy, where nobody cares about justice for all, will soon collapse in anarchy, which is almost as far as you can get from a just republic or commonwealth.Almost but not quite. The polar opposite to a republic is reached when the majority, fearing for their property, elect a âstrong manâ or tryant. âGive me a bodyguard,â he promises, âand Iâll protect your wealth.â And so we get tyranny.
Alms4Thorby over 13 years ago
I knew yesterday Alex wouldnât leave Leo hanging. Trudeau has too much compassion for soldiers and war veterans to allow it to happen.
FriscoLou over 13 years ago
Canât believe it, only a few more hrs left in D-Day, (pacific time) and people are still talking about the comics. Didnât people pay attention to Campingâs Prophecies? Donât let the âwill probablyâ qualifier lull you into a false sense of security. And I hope the Jews are paying attention, hate to see some one get blindsided. Come hell or high water, Iâm taking my OWS sign with me, âCorporations will be persons when Texas executes oneâ
Well I guess this is it, I wanted to take a moment and let everyone know how I feel about them, but thereâs just not enough time. Now I know what the âSilent Screamâ feels like. See some of yaâll on the other side.
DCWriter71 over 13 years ago
Why is Leo flashing back to Afghanistan? He was never in Afghanistan. He was in Iraq.
krisjackson01 over 13 years ago
Iâve been back from Vietnam for forty years ⊠and Iâm still not back from Vietnam.
natureboyfig4 Premium Member over 13 years ago
Poor guy. She just got done telling him the donkey carcasses were gone.