“Raising the tax rate doesn’t automatically raise revenues. Wuerkers of the World, get out and learn something.”Cutting taxes on the richest few doesn’t seem to be raising any either, but “conservatives” still advocate it.
But at least we will cable in the Gulag States of Amerika. Remember kids Nazis were the conservatives in Germany. They just went a little further than our oligarchs here.
What really bothers me is those on the right always supporting and defending the top 1% controlling wealth, are obviously among the lowest 1% in education, and I.Q.. This is especially obvious in the defense of feudalism, totally lacking any history of how it worked.
Trying to compare a figure like $36 K income in Mumbai suburbs to the same income in New York, or Silicone Valley towns is totally irrelevant, but a typical right wing idiocy to make it seem those at poverty level or slightly above here in the states are “doing well”. THAT is the problem with accepting feudalism as policy here.
Unfortunately, you, Masterskrain and I just may live long enough to see the total collapse. If mittens is elected, and there isn’t much change in congress, it will likely happen in the next 4 years.
Harley,you DO realize that if a guy making $36 K, and a guy (or gal) making $4 MILLION a year, both pay the same percentage of tax, say 35% (over $250 K income), the folks with $4 million still have just a “tad” more left to spend on their toys, or groceries, or rent/mortgage payments??
Bruce: Actually, I turned down more than a few job offers to make A LOT more money over the years. Living where I choose, and “lifestyle”, like raising my kids in a place where they could appreciate the planet, made a lot more sense than “money”. My brother chased the money, and “toys”, and died a couple years ago, with a lot of money, and toys, and three kids who couldn’t stand him. He’s still dead.
We “invested” enough to live comfortably where we do, but a lot of places that don’t interest me, have a MUCH HIGHER cost of living, economically, and with respect to “psychological damage from the environment”.
I look out my window and see mountains, forest, and open spaces, untrammeled to a great extent by “Man”. I don’t have to put up with traffic lights, crowds, or noise, hustle and bustle, and infringement by “society”, yet still have access to books, culture, internet, and can travel a reasonable distance to enjoy “cultural attractions” to broaden my “existence”.
Money, make a million? Nope, not interested. (although I did get close enough to satisfy me, which many of the “wannabes” here, obviously haven’t.)
I’ve paid taxes on my income since age 12 (when I started paying that “payroll tax”, called Social Security). Not only paid taxes, but for several decades had to fight down those actual RIGHT wingers who said, “if you don’’ spend MORE in your programs, you won’t GET more!” My simple argument was “I pay taxes too, and want to keep costs down.”. It was REALLY noticeable in the REAGAN years, that HIS appointees were by FAR the worst at running costs, and spending UP, just “because it’s the way”.
That “private industry” and corporate rule, IS equal to the feudal lords command over the populace , and MUCH MORE oppressive, as in shipping your job out from under you, than government taxation, OR even union dues, will ever be.
AS I’ve said, many, many times, I have NOTHING AGAINST legitimate “Capitalism”, where those making money HONESTLY, pay an honest level of taxes to support the nation that granted them, through freedom, their wealth.
Now if we went back to the Ike era 93% tax rate on income over $200 K, that WOULD be oppressive, but 35-39% maximum POSSIBLE rates, that won’t get paid anyway, that is not oppressive. Remember, corporations and the super wealthy now pay from 0% to 15% MAXIMUM!
Nothing Scott says has anything to do with liberalism, only a conservative conspiracy theory. Who is it these days telling us who we can and cannot marry? That’s right, it’s Mitt Romney.
The rich of this country made their money while using tax-payer built infrastructure, with workers educated in tax-payer funded schools, and enjoy the protection of taxpayer funded police, fire, and military protection. How is that they cannot support with their taxes, the system that made them rich?
No “loopholes” are definitely NOT “created equal”. I’ve read some rather hilarious ones written into the code that could ONLY apply to one single individual, who paid a lot more into his Congressman’s election campaign, than in taxes.
Also, I was noting what folks and corporations (like RONALD REAGAN’s friends at GE!) ACTUALLY PAY in taxes, not the “maximum” RATE they MIGHT be subject to without those loopholes, that ARE written only for “certain folks”.
This cartoon is idiotic. Feudalism reigns with government ruling every aspect of our lives, as it is with ANY progressive/collectivist system. They’ve rigged the system, and now they’re complaining about the results of THEIR policies. Read “The Road to Serfdom” by Friedrich von Hayek.
Nebulous Premium Member about 12 years ago
So why did they complain about the ones exercising their right of droit du signeur?
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Dead on, Matt.
JamesMcW about 12 years ago
No, we’re not quite there yet, but soon will be.
zoidknight about 12 years ago
Obama is still working on it.
zoidknight about 12 years ago
Can’t, the liberals and democrats declared that to be racist and elitist.
Odon Premium Member about 12 years ago
Let’s get competitive America!Dump the unions, lower standards, remove restrictions, lower taxes, then we can grow the 1% to the 1/2%.
William Bednar Premium Member about 12 years ago
Matt must have been smoking/shooting-up/drinking some really bad sh*t lately!
Jason Allen about 12 years ago
“Raising the tax rate doesn’t automatically raise revenues. Wuerkers of the World, get out and learn something.”Cutting taxes on the richest few doesn’t seem to be raising any either, but “conservatives” still advocate it.
joe vignone about 12 years ago
But at least we will cable in the Gulag States of Amerika. Remember kids Nazis were the conservatives in Germany. They just went a little further than our oligarchs here.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
What really bothers me is those on the right always supporting and defending the top 1% controlling wealth, are obviously among the lowest 1% in education, and I.Q.. This is especially obvious in the defense of feudalism, totally lacking any history of how it worked.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Trying to compare a figure like $36 K income in Mumbai suburbs to the same income in New York, or Silicone Valley towns is totally irrelevant, but a typical right wing idiocy to make it seem those at poverty level or slightly above here in the states are “doing well”. THAT is the problem with accepting feudalism as policy here.
cjr53 about 12 years ago
Unfortunately, you, Masterskrain and I just may live long enough to see the total collapse. If mittens is elected, and there isn’t much change in congress, it will likely happen in the next 4 years.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Harley,you DO realize that if a guy making $36 K, and a guy (or gal) making $4 MILLION a year, both pay the same percentage of tax, say 35% (over $250 K income), the folks with $4 million still have just a “tad” more left to spend on their toys, or groceries, or rent/mortgage payments??
pirate227 about 12 years ago
ZING!
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Bruce: Actually, I turned down more than a few job offers to make A LOT more money over the years. Living where I choose, and “lifestyle”, like raising my kids in a place where they could appreciate the planet, made a lot more sense than “money”. My brother chased the money, and “toys”, and died a couple years ago, with a lot of money, and toys, and three kids who couldn’t stand him. He’s still dead.
We “invested” enough to live comfortably where we do, but a lot of places that don’t interest me, have a MUCH HIGHER cost of living, economically, and with respect to “psychological damage from the environment”.
I look out my window and see mountains, forest, and open spaces, untrammeled to a great extent by “Man”. I don’t have to put up with traffic lights, crowds, or noise, hustle and bustle, and infringement by “society”, yet still have access to books, culture, internet, and can travel a reasonable distance to enjoy “cultural attractions” to broaden my “existence”.
Money, make a million? Nope, not interested. (although I did get close enough to satisfy me, which many of the “wannabes” here, obviously haven’t.)
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
I’ve paid taxes on my income since age 12 (when I started paying that “payroll tax”, called Social Security). Not only paid taxes, but for several decades had to fight down those actual RIGHT wingers who said, “if you don’’ spend MORE in your programs, you won’t GET more!” My simple argument was “I pay taxes too, and want to keep costs down.”. It was REALLY noticeable in the REAGAN years, that HIS appointees were by FAR the worst at running costs, and spending UP, just “because it’s the way”.
That “private industry” and corporate rule, IS equal to the feudal lords command over the populace , and MUCH MORE oppressive, as in shipping your job out from under you, than government taxation, OR even union dues, will ever be.
AS I’ve said, many, many times, I have NOTHING AGAINST legitimate “Capitalism”, where those making money HONESTLY, pay an honest level of taxes to support the nation that granted them, through freedom, their wealth.
Now if we went back to the Ike era 93% tax rate on income over $200 K, that WOULD be oppressive, but 35-39% maximum POSSIBLE rates, that won’t get paid anyway, that is not oppressive. Remember, corporations and the super wealthy now pay from 0% to 15% MAXIMUM!
ARodney about 12 years ago
Nothing Scott says has anything to do with liberalism, only a conservative conspiracy theory. Who is it these days telling us who we can and cannot marry? That’s right, it’s Mitt Romney.
piobaire about 12 years ago
The rich of this country made their money while using tax-payer built infrastructure, with workers educated in tax-payer funded schools, and enjoy the protection of taxpayer funded police, fire, and military protection. How is that they cannot support with their taxes, the system that made them rich?
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
No “loopholes” are definitely NOT “created equal”. I’ve read some rather hilarious ones written into the code that could ONLY apply to one single individual, who paid a lot more into his Congressman’s election campaign, than in taxes.
Also, I was noting what folks and corporations (like RONALD REAGAN’s friends at GE!) ACTUALLY PAY in taxes, not the “maximum” RATE they MIGHT be subject to without those loopholes, that ARE written only for “certain folks”.
38lowell about 12 years ago
…and whomever you married got to sleep with the lord of the
castle on her wedding night, weather you liked it or not. Andthe rest of your life you paid for it—nothing’s changed.
yohannbiimu about 12 years ago
This cartoon is idiotic. Feudalism reigns with government ruling every aspect of our lives, as it is with ANY progressive/collectivist system. They’ve rigged the system, and now they’re complaining about the results of THEIR policies. Read “The Road to Serfdom” by Friedrich von Hayek.
BobC101468 about 12 years ago
Sycophant Serfs for Sir Romney!!