“But…But…But…Rush PROMISED that it was ALL a plot by Al Gore and those evil scientists to make the Republicans look bad! HE PROMISED, and Rush would NEVER lie to us, now would he???”
If certain people started to believe that gravity is a hoax, would they float off into space? Unfortunately not, but that WOULD solve a few problems………
We reap what we sow… It’s not like we haven’t known for a very long time about how destructive our collective actions can be to our environment…. Ostriches may or may not stick their heads in the sand in order to deny reality, but humanity’s ability to avoid the truth has taken it to an art form of denial.
By 2020 we need to start taking CO2 out of the atmosphere as much of it that has been absorbed by our ever warming oceans are now releasing it back into the atmosphere. There is the technology that can take the gas out of the air and make it into a solid.
Let’s see, you want to use a machine to remove and sequester CO2? First, you need a renewable power source to do that, else you are just adding to the problem. And you need to create the machines using renewables or you are adding to the problem. (Yeah, I know there are break-even points, but how far down the road?).
Plants are the best bet, but they need water and minerals, in general. Water is a problem, unless the plants are at sea. Which is where the plankton that we get more than 70% of our oxygen are located.
So you need more plankton converting light and CO2 etc into plant matter. And you need for that plant matter not to decay, releasing CO2, methane, etc.
Well good luck with all that. Trying to replicate nature with devices in a way that doesn’t make the problem worse is not an easy task.
Yes, agree the planet is warming. However: the red tide is due to releases of high nutrient laden water from Lake Okeechobee caused by big Ag in southern Florida, the fires in California and the west are much more intense due to the misguided Forestry service policy of putting out every fire possible. The policy is changing thankfully, but there is still tinder laden forests that when they burn will kill off the large trees that would have survived the fires prior to the policy. And don’t even get me started on people building burnable houses in arid land on hillsides, can you say idiots?
The recognition of “anthropogenic climate change” was made in Europe and the Mediterranean regions, in the early 1950’s! And called such. The UK was cold and wet from coal burning, with poison smog, the Sahara was growing rapidly from drought and heat caused by vegetative removal in the eastern Med, timber harvest and overgrazing by livestock. Laws changed, the air was cleaned up, and better management of timber and grazing activities to some degree reversed the damage cycle.
Overharvest (especially clearcutting) and overgrazing in the American west created the same problem, and only minor changes compared to what is necessary and law changes stemming from NIXON ERA laws, the EPA and other actions cleaned the air in LA for example, but we’re working hard at reversing the progress. Trump administration “plans” are putting us back into WORSE CONDITIONS, than pre-NEPA! Welcome to “Idiot World”, as the east floods, and the west burns. BTW, over 90% of orginal forests in the US, have been harvested, and are drastically changed.
COL Crash almost 6 years ago
It’s only a hoax to the blind idiots who refuse to accept it or fear the impact on their profits.
Masterskrain almost 6 years ago
“But…But…But…Rush PROMISED that it was ALL a plot by Al Gore and those evil scientists to make the Republicans look bad! HE PROMISED, and Rush would NEVER lie to us, now would he???”
https://www.axios.com/july-2018-was-third-warmest-such-month-on-earth-1534345383-9fdaa57a-6f86-45b2-acce-208095d8a4a0.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark
Vidrinath Premium Member almost 6 years ago
At this point its a tribal identity. Science hasn’t been part of it for some time now.
smartgrr almost 6 years ago
We deserve what we get.
martens almost 6 years ago
^Yeah, but do all those other species deserve it?
Godfreydaniel almost 6 years ago
If certain people started to believe that gravity is a hoax, would they float off into space? Unfortunately not, but that WOULD solve a few problems………
Sadandconfused9 almost 6 years ago
We reap what we sow… It’s not like we haven’t known for a very long time about how destructive our collective actions can be to our environment…. Ostriches may or may not stick their heads in the sand in order to deny reality, but humanity’s ability to avoid the truth has taken it to an art form of denial.
Ontman almost 6 years ago
But fear not. Now that Trump has a SPACE FORCE all the ‘deserving’ people can move to Mars. Yeah right.
Zev almost 6 years ago
Trump’s next move is to add tariffs to air conditioners and life preservers.
Radish the wordsmith almost 6 years ago
So buy more coal so that that more Republican politicians can get Koch bribes.
Even if we stopped all CO2 pollution right now, the climate would continue to get worse for some time.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] almost 6 years ago
By 2020 we need to start taking CO2 out of the atmosphere as much of it that has been absorbed by our ever warming oceans are now releasing it back into the atmosphere. There is the technology that can take the gas out of the air and make it into a solid.
pamela welch Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Perfect visual Matt!
Baslim the Beggar Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Let’s see, you want to use a machine to remove and sequester CO2? First, you need a renewable power source to do that, else you are just adding to the problem. And you need to create the machines using renewables or you are adding to the problem. (Yeah, I know there are break-even points, but how far down the road?).
Plants are the best bet, but they need water and minerals, in general. Water is a problem, unless the plants are at sea. Which is where the plankton that we get more than 70% of our oxygen are located.
So you need more plankton converting light and CO2 etc into plant matter. And you need for that plant matter not to decay, releasing CO2, methane, etc.
Well good luck with all that. Trying to replicate nature with devices in a way that doesn’t make the problem worse is not an easy task.
NeedaChuckle Premium Member almost 6 years ago
All Fake news. Models set up to look like damage and fires. I haven’t seen them in person so I know they’re fake. /s
BeniHanna6 Premium Member almost 6 years ago
Yes, agree the planet is warming. However: the red tide is due to releases of high nutrient laden water from Lake Okeechobee caused by big Ag in southern Florida, the fires in California and the west are much more intense due to the misguided Forestry service policy of putting out every fire possible. The policy is changing thankfully, but there is still tinder laden forests that when they burn will kill off the large trees that would have survived the fires prior to the policy. And don’t even get me started on people building burnable houses in arid land on hillsides, can you say idiots?
Dtroutma almost 6 years ago
The recognition of “anthropogenic climate change” was made in Europe and the Mediterranean regions, in the early 1950’s! And called such. The UK was cold and wet from coal burning, with poison smog, the Sahara was growing rapidly from drought and heat caused by vegetative removal in the eastern Med, timber harvest and overgrazing by livestock. Laws changed, the air was cleaned up, and better management of timber and grazing activities to some degree reversed the damage cycle.
Overharvest (especially clearcutting) and overgrazing in the American west created the same problem, and only minor changes compared to what is necessary and law changes stemming from NIXON ERA laws, the EPA and other actions cleaned the air in LA for example, but we’re working hard at reversing the progress. Trump administration “plans” are putting us back into WORSE CONDITIONS, than pre-NEPA! Welcome to “Idiot World”, as the east floods, and the west burns. BTW, over 90% of orginal forests in the US, have been harvested, and are drastically changed.
And that ain’t the half of it.
Ryan Plut almost 6 years ago
Liar, Liar, MAGA hat on fire……