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Dragon: Look... you're dead if you lose and out of a job if you win, so what I propose is a win-win that can be summed up in 3 words... dragon-slaying research. Birth of the perpetual fundraising industry.
back in my day..Iām 54, I actually had a teacher who taught us that war was good for the economy and was needed for āpopulation controlāā¦.thatās about as hard core as you can getā¦and the sad part is, most accept it as fact..
I was thinking of this not only from the āwarā prospective but also for all the large fundraisig groups that are looking for cures and suchā¦.granted, they do tend to be helpful but what would happen if there really was a cure for cancerā¦.what would the Am. Cancer Society do thenā¦.just being antagonistic this morningā¦
POTREBIE Didnāt Salk develop his vaccine independently of those proffessional fundraisers? They saw they were without a job so they switched to birth defects, so many causes that they will be employed till Gabriel blows his horn and someone has to account.
A cure for cancer wonāt happen; a cure for a specific type, possibly, but each form of cancer is different and needs to be targeted in a specific way. Unfortunately, one-size-fits-all treatments we are so accustomed to (for bacterial and fungal infection) donāt work with cancer or many types of retroviruses. If a cure were found, however, the researcher would probably do just like all other research in this field; publish it. Once published and tested by other researchers, the original discoverer would likely receive an award of some kind and quite probably a considerable reputation boost within the scientific community. Many scientists are notoriously driven to share what they learn.
Makes me think of the pseudo Anti abortion criers.
If they real want to end it, demand that no insurance cover the operation, since insurance co.s through work and independent sources cover the vast majority of abortions. Instead they cry against a public health care bill that isnāt even in effect yet.
Might have something to do with the Repubs crying about it getting more insurance co money than the other guys.
Nothing works like stirring up emotions so the voter wonāt think things through.
Oh, and the āserpentā in Gen, is obviously a ādragonā or raptor since it was standing upright and had an ability to communicate (read the curse that makes it crawl on itās belly AFTERWARD and āeat dustā so it wonāt speak) Since Raptors apparently had both those capacities.
A Vegan diet does not prevent cancer (though it may reduce the likelihood of some types).
jaredcormier has it right about cancer research - a general cure for all cancers is not likely because each type of cancer is a completely different disease. Regardless of what pharmaceutical companies might want, doctors and medical researchers do want to cure cancers (and get the credit for the cures). A legitimate cancer cure would get published; when you hear about ācuresā supposedly being suppressed thatās because they are snake oil that doesnāt stand up to scientific scrutiny.
There is a prevention/cure out there and its biblical as well. āThen God said, ā āI am giving you every plant on the face of the whole earth that bears its own seeds. I am giving you every tree that has fruit with seeds in it. All of them will be given to you for food.ā ā So God told us to eat of the fruit and seed well apricot and apple seeds have a high concentration of vitamin B17. http://curezone.com/foods/laetrile.asp contains great information concerning cancer.
For instance, Galvani and Volta started their work on electricity in mid 1700ās, and then scientists just researched it for centuries. And we all know that even to this day, electricity is completely uselessā¦
Or take cancer research. Sure, testicular cancer went from death sentence to 99% curable, childhood leukemia is now 90+% curable, breast cancer death rates fell fivefoldā¦but hey, those scientists arenāt curing all the cancers as fast as we would like. It must be a conspiracy to get moneyā¦
I like Non Sequitur, but man do you hit a stinker every now and thenā¦
Um, folksā¦ are we slamming Wiley for what we are reading into the comic? Maybe itās neither about cancer, or AIDS, or the Defense Department, or whatever. Maybe he just thought it was funny to have a dragon saying things like that.
Itās not always about you, or your favorite hobby-horse cause. Sometimes, itās just about being funny. Until Wiley pops in and says, āThis is what this is alluding to,ā take it with a grain of salt, and donāt start getting mad at him for your perceptions.
Dragons prevent cancer, so donāt kill them. They either eat the person or incinerate them, no research grant necessary, no fundraising. Well, there is the question of what they really do with those sacrificed virgins.
those ācancer prevention techniquesā all sound highly dubiousā¦ someone suggested eating apple seeds (?) which have cyanide in themā¦ people in prison have been known to commit suicide by eating large quantities of apple seeds. in any case you all seem to be ignoring the fact that no matter what you do, youāre going to die someday. and āold ageā isnāt a real option. in a ādeveloped countryā itās probably either going to be cancer or heart disease, take your pick. that goes for vegetarians too, you guys arenāt immortal (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001975 < study indicates 1 to 1 ratio in mortality rates between vegetarians and non-vegetarians on 14 separate causes of death)
If you want to find out more about the money drain that is breast cancer research, read āThe Cure,ā http://www.amdevine.com, and āThe Secret History of the War on Cancerā by Dr. Devra Davis. Also check out Breast Cancer Action, http://www.bcaction.org/, an organization dedicated to telling the truth about cancer.
When did this cartoon become about cancer & cancer research? It might as well be between newscasters and the news. Once you report it, itās no longer news, so just research. It could be ANYTHING. Yes, I know this isnāt a āperpetual fundraising industryāā¦ or is it? Think about advertising & news. Slamming Wiley (āI like Non Sequitur, but man do you hit a stinker every now and thenā¦) for bringing up something that the COMMENTATORS brought up is just silly.
GO WILEY! Even if it is about cancer research (which I honestly doubt) you do enliven the posting boards. Oh and by the way - Iāve survived a rather brutal bout with cancer. I personally have nothing against research.
Thereās a story told about a military project in Stalinās Russia: a bunch of scientists and engineers were shipped off to Siberia and given the assignment of coming up with a new weapon system. They quickly realized they were between a rock and a hard place: if they didnāt build the weapon, theyād be executed for failing; if they did build it, theyād be executed in order to keep the technology secret. So they came up with a scheme where they were always making progress but never quite got an operational weaponā¦ and as I heard the story, they survived this way until after Stalin died, at which point the project faded away and they returned to normal life.
I think the āStar Warsā missile defense program is pretty much the same.
As for charities, who can forget the TB Association quietly morphing into the American Lung Association when a cure and vaccine for TB came along and there was no longer any need for the sanitarium system?
@Puddleglum: Sounds like Zenoās paradox; each minute, he covers half the remaining distance to his destination. So he effectively never gets there!
Or perhaps like the current Congressional flap with NASA. Never mind a sensible exploration program that takes into account the pittance of a budget (unlike Bushās fantasy Moon redux, without a real budget), letās have a jobs program for LockMart and ATK and Boeing, andā¦!
I think heās making fun of places like the āFamily Research Councilā. If they succeeded and got abortion and homosexuality outlawed, theyād all be in the poorhouse and have to find real jobs (orāmore likelyāfind a new bogeyman to blame and fund-raise against).
umg over 14 years ago
Reminds me that the Revelation of John symbolizes Satan as a dragon. The father of all bureaucracy? Oh, surely notā¦ Ahahahaha
JanLC over 14 years ago
Reminds me of āDragonheartā.
Sisyphos over 14 years ago
So true. Thatās one crafty dragon!
cdward over 14 years ago
Alternate solution: āWar on Dragonism.ā That could go on endlessly without even having to fundraise!
kearleybe over 14 years ago
back in my day..Iām 54, I actually had a teacher who taught us that war was good for the economy and was needed for āpopulation controlāā¦.thatās about as hard core as you can getā¦and the sad part is, most accept it as fact..
Potrzebie over 14 years ago
How long was Polio researched before the cure? Somewhere there are stories of illnesses that had fundraisers and were actually cured!
yogakim over 14 years ago
I was thinking of this not only from the āwarā prospective but also for all the large fundraisig groups that are looking for cures and suchā¦.granted, they do tend to be helpful but what would happen if there really was a cure for cancerā¦.what would the Am. Cancer Society do thenā¦.just being antagonistic this morningā¦
lewisbower over 14 years ago
POTREBIE Didnāt Salk develop his vaccine independently of those proffessional fundraisers? They saw they were without a job so they switched to birth defects, so many causes that they will be employed till Gabriel blows his horn and someone has to account.
jaredcormier over 14 years ago
A cure for cancer wonāt happen; a cure for a specific type, possibly, but each form of cancer is different and needs to be targeted in a specific way. Unfortunately, one-size-fits-all treatments we are so accustomed to (for bacterial and fungal infection) donāt work with cancer or many types of retroviruses. If a cure were found, however, the researcher would probably do just like all other research in this field; publish it. Once published and tested by other researchers, the original discoverer would likely receive an award of some kind and quite probably a considerable reputation boost within the scientific community. Many scientists are notoriously driven to share what they learn.
Digital Frog over 14 years ago
Sounds a bit like the plot from Johnny Mnemonic
CliffG.I.Woes over 14 years ago
And a great way to create more public relations and creative positions for all.
Destiny23 over 14 years ago
In the case of diseases like cancer and AIDS, prevention is FAR easier than cure. But thereās no money in thatā¦
freeholder1 over 14 years ago
Makes me think of the pseudo Anti abortion criers.
If they real want to end it, demand that no insurance cover the operation, since insurance co.s through work and independent sources cover the vast majority of abortions. Instead they cry against a public health care bill that isnāt even in effect yet.
Might have something to do with the Repubs crying about it getting more insurance co money than the other guys.
Nothing works like stirring up emotions so the voter wonāt think things through.
Oh, and the āserpentā in Gen, is obviously a ādragonā or raptor since it was standing upright and had an ability to communicate (read the curse that makes it crawl on itās belly AFTERWARD and āeat dustā so it wonāt speak) Since Raptors apparently had both those capacities.
inksplot over 14 years ago
Destiny23 said, 30 minutes ago
In the case of diseases like cancer and AIDS, prevention is FAR easier than cure. But thereās no money in thatā¦ ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦
Just how does someone prevent cancer?
iantheevil over 14 years ago
A Vegan diet does not prevent cancer (though it may reduce the likelihood of some types).
jaredcormier has it right about cancer research - a general cure for all cancers is not likely because each type of cancer is a completely different disease. Regardless of what pharmaceutical companies might want, doctors and medical researchers do want to cure cancers (and get the credit for the cures). A legitimate cancer cure would get published; when you hear about ācuresā supposedly being suppressed thatās because they are snake oil that doesnāt stand up to scientific scrutiny.
HairyKc over 14 years ago
There is a prevention/cure out there and its biblical as well. āThen God said, ā āI am giving you every plant on the face of the whole earth that bears its own seeds. I am giving you every tree that has fruit with seeds in it. All of them will be given to you for food.ā ā So God told us to eat of the fruit and seed well apricot and apple seeds have a high concentration of vitamin B17. http://curezone.com/foods/laetrile.asp contains great information concerning cancer.
jhouck99 over 14 years ago
^Potatoes are the root of all evilā¦
neurobio over 14 years ago
Oh yes, this makes sense.
For instance, Galvani and Volta started their work on electricity in mid 1700ās, and then scientists just researched it for centuries. And we all know that even to this day, electricity is completely uselessā¦
Or take cancer research. Sure, testicular cancer went from death sentence to 99% curable, childhood leukemia is now 90+% curable, breast cancer death rates fell fivefoldā¦but hey, those scientists arenāt curing all the cancers as fast as we would like. It must be a conspiracy to get moneyā¦
I like Non Sequitur, but man do you hit a stinker every now and thenā¦
Hoomi over 14 years ago
Um, folksā¦ are we slamming Wiley for what we are reading into the comic? Maybe itās neither about cancer, or AIDS, or the Defense Department, or whatever. Maybe he just thought it was funny to have a dragon saying things like that.
Itās not always about you, or your favorite hobby-horse cause. Sometimes, itās just about being funny. Until Wiley pops in and says, āThis is what this is alluding to,ā take it with a grain of salt, and donāt start getting mad at him for your perceptions.
thirdguy over 14 years ago
Take a couple of āDā cells and call me in the morning!
Dtroutma over 14 years ago
Dragons prevent cancer, so donāt kill them. They either eat the person or incinerate them, no research grant necessary, no fundraising. Well, there is the question of what they really do with those sacrificed virgins.
Lurah over 14 years ago
Love Dragons - this is a job I could do!!!!
person918 over 14 years ago
those ācancer prevention techniquesā all sound highly dubiousā¦ someone suggested eating apple seeds (?) which have cyanide in themā¦ people in prison have been known to commit suicide by eating large quantities of apple seeds. in any case you all seem to be ignoring the fact that no matter what you do, youāre going to die someday. and āold ageā isnāt a real option. in a ādeveloped countryā itās probably either going to be cancer or heart disease, take your pick. that goes for vegetarians too, you guys arenāt immortal (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12001975 < study indicates 1 to 1 ratio in mortality rates between vegetarians and non-vegetarians on 14 separate causes of death)
person918 over 14 years ago
in any case, itās an amusing comic
orz over 14 years ago
Isnāt that two words
amauriced over 14 years ago
If you want to find out more about the money drain that is breast cancer research, read āThe Cure,ā http://www.amdevine.com, and āThe Secret History of the War on Cancerā by Dr. Devra Davis. Also check out Breast Cancer Action, http://www.bcaction.org/, an organization dedicated to telling the truth about cancer.
AnnieWarriorPrincess over 14 years ago
Never mettle in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup!
treered over 14 years ago
Spock: There are always alternativesā¦
miniwidge over 14 years ago
When did this cartoon become about cancer & cancer research? It might as well be between newscasters and the news. Once you report it, itās no longer news, so just research. It could be ANYTHING. Yes, I know this isnāt a āperpetual fundraising industryāā¦ or is it? Think about advertising & news. Slamming Wiley (āI like Non Sequitur, but man do you hit a stinker every now and thenā¦) for bringing up something that the COMMENTATORS brought up is just silly.
GO WILEY! Even if it is about cancer research (which I honestly doubt) you do enliven the posting boards. Oh and by the way - Iāve survived a rather brutal bout with cancer. I personally have nothing against research.
puddleglum1066 over 14 years ago
Thereās a story told about a military project in Stalinās Russia: a bunch of scientists and engineers were shipped off to Siberia and given the assignment of coming up with a new weapon system. They quickly realized they were between a rock and a hard place: if they didnāt build the weapon, theyād be executed for failing; if they did build it, theyād be executed in order to keep the technology secret. So they came up with a scheme where they were always making progress but never quite got an operational weaponā¦ and as I heard the story, they survived this way until after Stalin died, at which point the project faded away and they returned to normal life.
I think the āStar Warsā missile defense program is pretty much the same.
As for charities, who can forget the TB Association quietly morphing into the American Lung Association when a cure and vaccine for TB came along and there was no longer any need for the sanitarium system?
agentadq over 14 years ago
Read into it what you will. But to have this comic appear on the first day of Breast Cancer Awareness Monthā¦ Coincidence? I think not.
firedome over 14 years ago
hey, wileyā¦.itās malloryās cousin! i hope mel white and robert asprin sees this one!
pbarnrob over 14 years ago
@Puddleglum: Sounds like Zenoās paradox; each minute, he covers half the remaining distance to his destination. So he effectively never gets there!
Or perhaps like the current Congressional flap with NASA. Never mind a sensible exploration program that takes into account the pittance of a budget (unlike Bushās fantasy Moon redux, without a real budget), letās have a jobs program for LockMart and ATK and Boeing, andā¦!
MattNYC over 14 years ago
I think heās making fun of places like the āFamily Research Councilā. If they succeeded and got abortion and homosexuality outlawed, theyād all be in the poorhouse and have to find real jobs (orāmore likelyāfind a new bogeyman to blame and fund-raise against).