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@Nabuquduriuzhur:Granted, while the efficacy of the polygraph is open to debate, and will be forever, the background checks for security clearances vary from the superficial for a âconfidentialâ, to very rigorous indeed for anything above âsecretâ. But, all the checks in the world wonât prevent someone from violating the oath they take when obtaining the clearance.
Backround checks (good ones) are expensive. I have had 3 done on me while in the Navy for Top Secret clearance â no problem. Have had basis backround checks for Security licenses, and pistol permit â again no problem.
Yes, they do investigate. I was investigated before I got a clearance; I was interviewed personally by an investigator. However, what gets me is that you have to submit to a lie detector before getting a higher clearance, despite the fact that lie detectors are so unreliable that you canât use them as evidence in a court of law.
Now if they did the debate the way some behavioural tests are doneâŠâŠhave the debators wired and give buzzers out to 2-3 neighbourhoods in a couple of cities in EVERY stateâŠâŠ wouldnât matter if the debators told the truth. What would matter is if the people holding the buttonsâŠ..like what they hear.
I wonder what would happen if all sides in a debate were required to face a reliable testing of the truth. Until then we are faced with what Abe Lincoln said.
A lie detector is not. Itâs a polygraph machine, and the innocent sometimes fail because theyâre nervous & the guilty sometimes pass because theyâre cool & calm sociopaths. Anything that fails canât be relied upon.
Ron Dunn Premium Member over 12 years ago
That is a great idea have romney and obama stand on shock pads, if one tries to lie about something give em a shock.
marshalljpeters Premium Member over 12 years ago
Heâs got them both worried.
legaleagle48 over 12 years ago
And people wonder why this strip always attracts the political comments. Itâs hard NOT to make political comments when the strip itself makes them!
euston over 12 years ago
Looks like itâs going to be a pretty quiet debateâŠ
euston over 12 years ago
âQuietâ on the strip I meant⊠Obviously not in the commentsâŠ
piloti over 12 years ago
@Nabuquduriuzhur:Granted, while the efficacy of the polygraph is open to debate, and will be forever, the background checks for security clearances vary from the superficial for a âconfidentialâ, to very rigorous indeed for anything above âsecretâ. But, all the checks in the world wonât prevent someone from violating the oath they take when obtaining the clearance.
celeconecca over 12 years ago
thatâll do, thatâll do.
J Short over 12 years ago
Depends whose âfactsâ you are using.
jtviper7 over 12 years ago
The end of politics the way we know it todayâŠ
owizcs over 12 years ago
All politicians lie.
tirnaaisling over 12 years ago
The oneâs who believe are the ones you really shouldnât elect.
Bruce McKinney Premium Member over 12 years ago
Oh, if only it could be so.
runar over 12 years ago
Rmoney would have been toast.
coulterjc over 12 years ago
smart move!
Totalloser Premium Member over 12 years ago
If only they used that in our debates. Should be a collar around the next so they really feel it. The more they lie they bigger the jolt
Rickapolis over 12 years ago
THAT is an invention.
beaver48612 over 12 years ago
Romney would have passed out within 5 minutes in to the debate.
lcdrlar over 12 years ago
Backround checks (good ones) are expensive. I have had 3 done on me while in the Navy for Top Secret clearance â no problem. Have had basis backround checks for Security licenses, and pistol permit â again no problem.
Cartoonacy over 12 years ago
Iâve found Factcheck.org to be generally unbiased, and is often cited for its reliability. I read it after every speech and debate.
K M over 12 years ago
Yes, they do investigate. I was investigated before I got a clearance; I was interviewed personally by an investigator. However, what gets me is that you have to submit to a lie detector before getting a higher clearance, despite the fact that lie detectors are so unreliable that you canât use them as evidence in a court of law.
Hunter7 over 12 years ago
Now if they did the debate the way some behavioural tests are doneâŠâŠhave the debators wired and give buzzers out to 2-3 neighbourhoods in a couple of cities in EVERY stateâŠâŠ wouldnât matter if the debators told the truth. What would matter is if the people holding the buttonsâŠ..like what they hear.
bigbird804 over 12 years ago
I wonder what would happen if all sides in a debate were required to face a reliable testing of the truth. Until then we are faced with what Abe Lincoln said.
fhhuber over 12 years ago
Just shock em every time they say anything⊠youâll be correct 99.99999999% of the time
Applies to any politician.
Marv Premium Member about 1 month ago
A lie detector is not. Itâs a polygraph machine, and the innocent sometimes fail because theyâre nervous & the guilty sometimes pass because theyâre cool & calm sociopaths. Anything that fails canât be relied upon.