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As a true fisherman, he will do anything he can. Yeah., I for one, am not holding my breath. This is Allgod "s party and we are going to have to handle it ourselves.All together now BOOO>b> HISS Blessed Be
âWeâre an anarcho-syndicalist commune. Each member takes it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-monthly council by a simple majority in the case ofâŠââShut up! I order you to shut up!â
Attention everyone:The Endtown auction is still ongoing, and Aaron really does need your help in order to keep the strip running. Please help out as you can, by either bidding on Maude, buying a print, or just spreading the word in book review sites. Thank you.
Walt can get before the council but what then? He can ask do they have to answer? So it is 10 on the board. How many are aligned with Allgood? Its either a majority of 6 or less by threat. 3 Bengal tigers (on Allgood side) and 7 bunnies. Guess who will win? I would put my money on the tigers. Allgood apparently (I am stating the obvious) has control on the council or this would never have happened. The council ordered the arrests so at least a majority would have to agree or others feel threatened by those in support of Allgood who may not be majority. Remember he who has the guns, rules.Allgoodâs most powerful supporter may be the one in charge of the Security. That person could hold sway over all regardless of who is on the council. Just another facet to explore.I got a feeling in the long run the Rats loyalties are going to be tested. Do they follow an unjust order or just obey without question?
Wow! Much as I love Holly and Wallyâs unvarished love and honor, my hat and my hairpiece are off in gratitude to many a âDocâ and politician with enough courage and patience to âplay the game.â
There is no need to worryy about politicians from taking control âŠThere are many fanatical (Overly Zealous) groups that can do that just as easily. There system looks like it was broken from the very beginning⊠and left themselves wide open for a more sinster and dangerous problem.
It would seem to me that the FISH would have waste products to eat as they did on rivers and oceans on top side?Wouldnât that qualify as food that was part of the community?Blessed Be
It seems I am taking flak for Rat support. Maybe you donât see it but I do. A long time there was group of individuals that were âorderedâ to go to a land and do things. All we did was what we were told. Back home folks living in safety took issues with us. Believed the âpopularâ opinion. Listened to the negativity thrown on us. Began to hate us, despise us, worse yet IGNORE us. Never taking into account it is what we are suppose to be doing. IT was who we are, our job. Congratulations. You are doing the same thing to the Rats. I hope for their redemption. That maybe, like we did, see what they are doing is not accomplishing anything but adding to the losses. But the folks back home never saw that we were trying. Just who we were in their narrow minded eyes. Like us of the past the Rats just do their jobs and some are viewing them with those same prejudices.I am done ârantingâ or âhatingâ for now.Good night to all.This is Veteran, standing guard while you sleep even if you donât like it.
I donât wanna get into any heat here but I just wanna say I like the rats and I hope some of them will become good. Or at the very least I hope weâll get to know more about them.
Letâs take a look at the facts:Have the Rats done anything wrong, even in arresting Holly? No. We donât know what the rules are in Endtown, but with the conditions of survival that exists, there are most likely tighter controls than what weâre used to here in the U.S. We canât put our standards on their situation.Yet, have the rats done it sloppily? Yes. Why? I presume itâs for the slapstick humor on the part of Aaron to entertain us. Also, I would guess to point out that the rats themselves isnât the problem we need to pay attention to. The rats have at best an interim head, probably one of the council members. If thatâs true, theyâve had a different head every month since Flaskâs death. This leads to confusion and lower morale among the troops. When thereâs a constant variance between leadership capabilities and now obviously the core purpose of the security force, problems appear.The security rats main purpose was to protect Endtown from the Topsiders. Now it appears the rats are starting to be directed to enforce a morale code on the citizens. Thereâs obviously confusion among the troops and so far all weâve seen have been the action of a half dozen troops of a force that probably is around fifty members.When I was in the Air Force, I was in a few units that had weak leadership. I remember one time I was temporarily working in the admin office and I was constantly swapping out conflicting documentation in manuals because we were an ADC (Air Defense Command) unit on an ATC (Air Training Command) Base. This is just one minor example of problems in the unit. Shortly after getting out, a mistake by that unit scrambled B-52âs and put the missles on alert. Luckily the error was corrected before they took off.So Veteran is right to support the rats. They are doing their job. EeyoreBlue, please consider the rats are acting their part in this play and are reminiscent of cartoon portrayals of the Keysone Kops.
On the notion of the Security Rats doing wrongâŠIâm inclined to think that busting into a place by blazing away with their guns, as us guys whoâve read âEndtownâ back to the beginning have seen them do at least three times, might be doing wrong.
Actually, Allgood isnât âgaming the systemâ, heâs doing exactly what Mallard would suggest. If you want change, drum up support for a particular subject throughout the colony. When you reach roughly 50% of the population with your message, the odds of getting a majority on the HC through random draw goes up. Then, whenever a new member appears on the council, the leading oldest supporting member for the idea can ask for a vote. Thereâs no need to break anonymity, and if the idea is popular enough, you might be able to swing a couple of other HC members along the way. Keep doing this either until the subject gets unpopular, or the vote passes. The only difference is that Allgood has decided to make the first move.Now, ignoring having a spy in security, how could Allgood know that he has a majority on the HC this month? Answer â regular meetings and a good switchboard operator. There are three reasons for someone to go silent for a month: Death, Topside scavenging assignment, HC duty. Assuming that the organization stays in constant contact, and that youâre not allowed to tell people that youâve pulled HC duty, if you go silent itâs easy to guess why. Rule out the first two reasons and you now know whoâs on the HC. Track the number of missing members, and if thereâs 5 down when your name is called and the oldest missing is less than 28 days, you know you have a majority and you can let the ones still on HC know that when you report in.
Who said being on the High Council was a full time job?Most, if not all business could be held on a few weekly meetings in the evenings. A person could keep a full time job and not lose any time at work. I was on a Grand Jury a few years ago and the work was only one day a week for the three months I was on it and due to the workload, it didnât happen every week. Also, the High Council may be in control, but who runs the mundane everyday things that would be under their control? Iâm referencing paying the maintenance staff and service sectors (Garbage collection and the Housing Authority for instance). Would they support a take-over by Allgood? Are they already in his âcampâ?
Now you all are getting it. There is more much more to the story. Allgood has probably been planning this for a while. I believe he could not really carry on until Flask was out of the way. She had her own agenda but would have seen Allgood as a threat. His actions would bring too much attention to Security and maybe exposed what she was really up to. Allgood could only move when he knew he had Security on his side. Are the rats really that âviolentâ or just overly enthusiastic? No one has been killed (yet). Maybe beaten up a bit much but remember if you fight them they will fight you. They wanted no issues with Jackrabbit so they just clubbed him. That way NO FIGHT (preemptive strike)! (I have done that few times. The guy cocks his arm back as if to swing. I heel punched his face. Back reaped his legs when he was stunned so he landed on his back on the ground hard. Knocked all the fight out him. Did I have to wait for him to HIT me first? It is not in the rules.) Remember if Topsiders ever start coming down those elevators from the surface to Endtown WHO is going to confront them at the doors. THE RATS. Thatâs why they are the way they are. Prepared for War so when they are doing things unwarlike that is a challenge for them.They are Keystone like in they fact that to handle something not requiring a flashbang and guns they are challenged. That is why they have a book of conduct. When in doubt open for instructions. You did remember they canât shoot people in the back. (Al and Gustine) It was not allowed according to the code of conduct.Lets focus on the real problems. The council and commander of the Security forces. They hold all the cards and will determine the outcome.See you all on MondayAnd Eeyourblues I was a bit rough. I do apologize but my idea of duty and service is apparently far different from yours. If you are comfortable with your decisions and can live with it then its okay for you and me.
SapphireDragonStudios almost 12 years ago
Thereâs probably some tampering going on with that ârandomâ selection⊠>.>
Bill Thompson almost 12 years ago
Politicians always know how to take control. Fortunately Doc is the kind of politician who games the system to help others.
dirtyoldlady1 almost 12 years ago
As a true fisherman, he will do anything he can. Yeah., I for one, am not holding my breath. This is Allgod "s party and we are going to have to handle it ourselves.All together now BOOO>b> HISS Blessed Be
Jenner Premium Member almost 12 years ago
âWeâre an anarcho-syndicalist commune. Each member takes it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer for the week, but all decisions of that officer have to be ratified at a special bi-monthly council by a simple majority in the case ofâŠââShut up! I order you to shut up!â
Jenner Premium Member almost 12 years ago
First guy in history to see a doctor âcause he HADNâT caught anything.
Ida No almost 12 years ago
Attention everyone:The Endtown auction is still ongoing, and Aaron really does need your help in order to keep the strip running. Please help out as you can, by either bidding on Maude, buying a print, or just spreading the word in book review sites. Thank you.
Palabrajot almost 12 years ago
Mayor needs a little squirrelly aide, methinks. âWhat am I signing, Radar?â
crookedwolf Premium Member almost 12 years ago
The trout may be willing to go fishing, if he flattens the barbs out on his treble hooks!
Twonky almost 12 years ago
Donât know about anyone else, but when I see the mayor I hear Andy Devineâs voice!
finder10030 almost 12 years ago
Some watery tart handing out scimitars is no basis for a form of government.
finder10030 almost 12 years ago
That is one happy looking bear! Guess fishing is a âbear necessity?â
AutoAxpert almost 12 years ago
Because chosing people at random means they would make the right decision? Yeah, right.
salenstormwing almost 12 years ago
Bribery and Fishing without a License⊠Yup, political corruption at its finest!
Vet Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Walt can get before the council but what then? He can ask do they have to answer? So it is 10 on the board. How many are aligned with Allgood? Its either a majority of 6 or less by threat. 3 Bengal tigers (on Allgood side) and 7 bunnies. Guess who will win? I would put my money on the tigers. Allgood apparently (I am stating the obvious) has control on the council or this would never have happened. The council ordered the arrests so at least a majority would have to agree or others feel threatened by those in support of Allgood who may not be majority. Remember he who has the guns, rules.Allgoodâs most powerful supporter may be the one in charge of the Security. That person could hold sway over all regardless of who is on the council. Just another facet to explore.I got a feeling in the long run the Rats loyalties are going to be tested. Do they follow an unjust order or just obey without question?
bscruffy almost 12 years ago
Wow! Much as I love Holly and Wallyâs unvarished love and honor, my hat and my hairpiece are off in gratitude to many a âDocâ and politician with enough courage and patience to âplay the game.â
ConstanzeN almost 12 years ago
There is no need to worryy about politicians from taking control âŠThere are many fanatical (Overly Zealous) groups that can do that just as easily. There system looks like it was broken from the very beginning⊠and left themselves wide open for a more sinster and dangerous problem.
Robert Nowall Premium Member almost 12 years ago
If Walter really wants the experience of fishing, maybe he could go for a swim while some of the fishy Endtowners cast lines into the waterâŠ
EeyoreBlue almost 12 years ago
Doc has the right idea letâs see if he can accomplish anythingâŠ
Dragoncat almost 12 years ago
The Mayor of EndtownâŠFighting for truth, justice, and the right to bear fishing poles.
GregTrail_ImaDillo almost 12 years ago
Isnât the address just going to be somewhere underwater?
danielse almost 12 years ago
I guess the question is: Does anyone have the right to arm bears?
dirtyoldlady1 almost 12 years ago
It would seem to me that the FISH would have waste products to eat as they did on rivers and oceans on top side?Wouldnât that qualify as food that was part of the community?Blessed Be
Vet Premium Member almost 12 years ago
It seems I am taking flak for Rat support. Maybe you donât see it but I do. A long time there was group of individuals that were âorderedâ to go to a land and do things. All we did was what we were told. Back home folks living in safety took issues with us. Believed the âpopularâ opinion. Listened to the negativity thrown on us. Began to hate us, despise us, worse yet IGNORE us. Never taking into account it is what we are suppose to be doing. IT was who we are, our job. Congratulations. You are doing the same thing to the Rats. I hope for their redemption. That maybe, like we did, see what they are doing is not accomplishing anything but adding to the losses. But the folks back home never saw that we were trying. Just who we were in their narrow minded eyes. Like us of the past the Rats just do their jobs and some are viewing them with those same prejudices.I am done ârantingâ or âhatingâ for now.Good night to all.This is Veteran, standing guard while you sleep even if you donât like it.
GregTrail_ImaDillo almost 12 years ago
I donât wanna get into any heat here but I just wanna say I like the rats and I hope some of them will become good. Or at the very least I hope weâll get to know more about them.
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 12 years ago
EeyoreBlue & Veteran (and others),
Letâs take a look at the facts:Have the Rats done anything wrong, even in arresting Holly? No. We donât know what the rules are in Endtown, but with the conditions of survival that exists, there are most likely tighter controls than what weâre used to here in the U.S. We canât put our standards on their situation.Yet, have the rats done it sloppily? Yes. Why? I presume itâs for the slapstick humor on the part of Aaron to entertain us. Also, I would guess to point out that the rats themselves isnât the problem we need to pay attention to. The rats have at best an interim head, probably one of the council members. If thatâs true, theyâve had a different head every month since Flaskâs death. This leads to confusion and lower morale among the troops. When thereâs a constant variance between leadership capabilities and now obviously the core purpose of the security force, problems appear.The security rats main purpose was to protect Endtown from the Topsiders. Now it appears the rats are starting to be directed to enforce a morale code on the citizens. Thereâs obviously confusion among the troops and so far all weâve seen have been the action of a half dozen troops of a force that probably is around fifty members.When I was in the Air Force, I was in a few units that had weak leadership. I remember one time I was temporarily working in the admin office and I was constantly swapping out conflicting documentation in manuals because we were an ADC (Air Defense Command) unit on an ATC (Air Training Command) Base. This is just one minor example of problems in the unit. Shortly after getting out, a mistake by that unit scrambled B-52âs and put the missles on alert. Luckily the error was corrected before they took off.So Veteran is right to support the rats. They are doing their job. EeyoreBlue, please consider the rats are acting their part in this play and are reminiscent of cartoon portrayals of the Keysone Kops.
Jenner Premium Member almost 12 years ago
We all have our price. Walterâs was thirty Pisces of silver.
Robert Nowall Premium Member almost 12 years ago
On the notion of the Security Rats doing wrongâŠIâm inclined to think that busting into a place by blazing away with their guns, as us guys whoâve read âEndtownâ back to the beginning have seen them do at least three times, might be doing wrong.
Ida No almost 12 years ago
Actually, Allgood isnât âgaming the systemâ, heâs doing exactly what Mallard would suggest. If you want change, drum up support for a particular subject throughout the colony. When you reach roughly 50% of the population with your message, the odds of getting a majority on the HC through random draw goes up. Then, whenever a new member appears on the council, the leading oldest supporting member for the idea can ask for a vote. Thereâs no need to break anonymity, and if the idea is popular enough, you might be able to swing a couple of other HC members along the way. Keep doing this either until the subject gets unpopular, or the vote passes. The only difference is that Allgood has decided to make the first move.Now, ignoring having a spy in security, how could Allgood know that he has a majority on the HC this month? Answer â regular meetings and a good switchboard operator. There are three reasons for someone to go silent for a month: Death, Topside scavenging assignment, HC duty. Assuming that the organization stays in constant contact, and that youâre not allowed to tell people that youâve pulled HC duty, if you go silent itâs easy to guess why. Rule out the first two reasons and you now know whoâs on the HC. Track the number of missing members, and if thereâs 5 down when your name is called and the oldest missing is less than 28 days, you know you have a majority and you can let the ones still on HC know that when you report in.
mr_sherman Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Who said being on the High Council was a full time job?Most, if not all business could be held on a few weekly meetings in the evenings. A person could keep a full time job and not lose any time at work. I was on a Grand Jury a few years ago and the work was only one day a week for the three months I was on it and due to the workload, it didnât happen every week. Also, the High Council may be in control, but who runs the mundane everyday things that would be under their control? Iâm referencing paying the maintenance staff and service sectors (Garbage collection and the Housing Authority for instance). Would they support a take-over by Allgood? Are they already in his âcampâ?
Vet Premium Member almost 12 years ago
Now you all are getting it. There is more much more to the story. Allgood has probably been planning this for a while. I believe he could not really carry on until Flask was out of the way. She had her own agenda but would have seen Allgood as a threat. His actions would bring too much attention to Security and maybe exposed what she was really up to. Allgood could only move when he knew he had Security on his side. Are the rats really that âviolentâ or just overly enthusiastic? No one has been killed (yet). Maybe beaten up a bit much but remember if you fight them they will fight you. They wanted no issues with Jackrabbit so they just clubbed him. That way NO FIGHT (preemptive strike)! (I have done that few times. The guy cocks his arm back as if to swing. I heel punched his face. Back reaped his legs when he was stunned so he landed on his back on the ground hard. Knocked all the fight out him. Did I have to wait for him to HIT me first? It is not in the rules.) Remember if Topsiders ever start coming down those elevators from the surface to Endtown WHO is going to confront them at the doors. THE RATS. Thatâs why they are the way they are. Prepared for War so when they are doing things unwarlike that is a challenge for them.They are Keystone like in they fact that to handle something not requiring a flashbang and guns they are challenged. That is why they have a book of conduct. When in doubt open for instructions. You did remember they canât shoot people in the back. (Al and Gustine) It was not allowed according to the code of conduct.Lets focus on the real problems. The council and commander of the Security forces. They hold all the cards and will determine the outcome.See you all on MondayAnd Eeyourblues I was a bit rough. I do apologize but my idea of duty and service is apparently far different from yours. If you are comfortable with your decisions and can live with it then its okay for you and me.
Lyons Group, Inc. almost 12 years ago
Mmmm, yummy!