The Beandocks Cuco: There's a new sitcom on TV called "Black-ish." Some are asking why there isn't a show called "Whiteish." Eddie: There is. It's called "The History of American Television."
Don’t forget “Amos and Andy”; the TV show that starred a young black woman in “Julia” (her character played a nurse); The Bill Cosby Show" to name a few. Additionally, the black angel (can’t remember the name of the TV show); and various remakes of old “white” movies Also, there are more and more black characters…especially in the lead role…in today’s TV shows. I really can’t say which as I don’t pay attention to the TV titles, but you know who and what I mean… Oh, almost forgot about BET! Unfortunately, one still needs to seek out Latino shows that are not on “Univision.”
Yup. So much substituting personal anecdote for systematic knowledge. (“It’s snowing in my town today! How can there be global warming?”) Or, ironically, going the opposite direction and substituting stereotypes and downright ugly racism for actual, systematic knowledge. And this is what passes for discourse these days. It must warm the cockles of Roger Ailes’s shriveled-up little heart.
Perps overwhelmingly black. Or are they just being “profiled”.
Let’s see…How ’bout we take the example of Ferguson, Missouri. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “Ferguson police are much more likely to stop, search and arrest African-American drivers than white ones. Last year, blacks, who make up a little less than two-thirds of the driving-age population in the North County city, accounted for 86 percent of all stops. When stopped, they were almost twice as likely to be searched as whites and twice as likely to be arrested, though police were less likely to find contraband on them.” How much less likely? 22% of the time for blacks, 34% of the time for whites. The Post-Dispatch goes on to say that the disparity in Ferguson is actually a little less pronounced than in the rest of the state. So yes, black people, and particularly black men, are indeed being profiled.
Ah, the old, “You’re racist for pointing out racism” gambit. It’s become quite the rage these days among a certain set of white folks, popularized by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and all those nice people at Fox News.
My “vicious attacks” pretty much have to do with the level of willful ignorance or just plain intellectual dishonesty of certain posters. There are plenty of sharp elbows in this forum, and you wield a pair of ’em yourself, indie dearie.
Then Lalo must be racist for pointing out that pointing out racism is racist.
Once again your purported “logic” fails to impress. For one, it’s not Lalo pointing that out, it’s me. For another, simply adding another clause to a sentence doesn’t magically cause it to mean the same thing as it did before. So, basically, that’s a D+ for effort and an F for argumentation.
A black with a huge 1970s Afro -Another unkempt Latino-looking character leaning against a tree, similar to what earlier stereotypes used to do with cacti
For someone who professes to be familiar with The Boondocks, you don’t seem to recognize that this is a regular scene straight out of that strip, complete with hairstyles and tree. (The kid leaning against the tree has dreadlocks, not stringy or unkempt hair.) So either you’re ignorant of that context, you’re purposely disregarding it for the sake of saying something—anything—contrary, or you just don’t care about facts. Possibly some combination of those. Or, hey, pick that mysterious other option you’re always insisting exists but never do manage to reveal.
By the way, Huey Freeman in The Boondocks wore his afro as a symbol of the Black Power movement.
As has been long-established, this is an homage that McGruder has no problem with. But since you don’t like Alcaraz, you’ll persist in saying he’s “ripping it off.” In this, you are wrong, but it hasn’t stopped you before, and I doubt it will in the future.
In addition, any stereotypes here are the ones you insist on putting in place yourself. Which really says much more about you than about McGruder or Alcaraz.
interpretations are all valid, according to Agrestic
Yet another willful misreading and continued twisting of the truth. Seriously, indie, you treat the truth like saltwater taffy. Maybe we should get you a job at a boardwalk.
The point is this – some whites have asked why there isn’t anything celebrating white history (White History Month, for example) or, as the strip suggest, a white-ish show. You don’t need anything like that. For every black television show that ever was, there were dozens of “white” television shows. But the need to distinguish that as white is moot because the truth is, american television (and history, and science, and academia, and..etc,) is primarily and predominately white.
No racism here. I’m not saying that it’s good or bad. It’s just what it is.
ORMouseworks about 10 years ago
Don’t forget “Amos and Andy”; the TV show that starred a young black woman in “Julia” (her character played a nurse); The Bill Cosby Show" to name a few. Additionally, the black angel (can’t remember the name of the TV show); and various remakes of old “white” movies Also, there are more and more black characters…especially in the lead role…in today’s TV shows. I really can’t say which as I don’t pay attention to the TV titles, but you know who and what I mean… Oh, almost forgot about BET! Unfortunately, one still needs to seek out Latino shows that are not on “Univision.”
AlnicoV about 10 years ago
Television has never reflected the audience either ethnically or in the realm of income, tending to be far richer and less diverse than in real life.
e.groves about 10 years ago
I watched the first episode of “BLACKISH” Not my type of program.
kaffekup about 10 years ago
Typical racist comment.
bowtiedaddy about 10 years ago
In the ’50s, TV taught me Yiddish .
agrestic about 10 years ago
Yup. So much substituting personal anecdote for systematic knowledge. (“It’s snowing in my town today! How can there be global warming?”) Or, ironically, going the opposite direction and substituting stereotypes and downright ugly racism for actual, systematic knowledge. And this is what passes for discourse these days. It must warm the cockles of Roger Ailes’s shriveled-up little heart.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Perps overwhelmingly black. Or are they just being “profiled”.
Let’s see…How ’bout we take the example of Ferguson, Missouri. According to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, “Ferguson police are much more likely to stop, search and arrest African-American drivers than white ones. Last year, blacks, who make up a little less than two-thirds of the driving-age population in the North County city, accounted for 86 percent of all stops. When stopped, they were almost twice as likely to be searched as whites and twice as likely to be arrested, though police were less likely to find contraband on them.” How much less likely? 22% of the time for blacks, 34% of the time for whites. The Post-Dispatch goes on to say that the disparity in Ferguson is actually a little less pronounced than in the rest of the state. So yes, black people, and particularly black men, are indeed being profiled.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Ah, the old, “You’re racist for pointing out racism” gambit. It’s become quite the rage these days among a certain set of white folks, popularized by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and all those nice people at Fox News.
agrestic about 10 years ago
My “vicious attacks” pretty much have to do with the level of willful ignorance or just plain intellectual dishonesty of certain posters. There are plenty of sharp elbows in this forum, and you wield a pair of ’em yourself, indie dearie.
agrestic about 10 years ago
Then Lalo must be racist for pointing out that pointing out racism is racist.
Once again your purported “logic” fails to impress. For one, it’s not Lalo pointing that out, it’s me. For another, simply adding another clause to a sentence doesn’t magically cause it to mean the same thing as it did before. So, basically, that’s a D+ for effort and an F for argumentation.
agrestic about 10 years ago
A black with a huge 1970s Afro -Another unkempt Latino-looking character leaning against a tree, similar to what earlier stereotypes used to do with cacti
For someone who professes to be familiar with The Boondocks, you don’t seem to recognize that this is a regular scene straight out of that strip, complete with hairstyles and tree. (The kid leaning against the tree has dreadlocks, not stringy or unkempt hair.) So either you’re ignorant of that context, you’re purposely disregarding it for the sake of saying something—anything—contrary, or you just don’t care about facts. Possibly some combination of those. Or, hey, pick that mysterious other option you’re always insisting exists but never do manage to reveal.
By the way, Huey Freeman in The Boondocks wore his afro as a symbol of the Black Power movement.
agrestic about 10 years ago
So, what’s his point?Are you saying that Lalo agrees with whites?
Your inability to engage with logic today is absolutely astounding, indie dearie. Truly a command performance! Bravo!
agrestic about 10 years ago
the strip Lalo is ripping off
As has been long-established, this is an homage that McGruder has no problem with. But since you don’t like Alcaraz, you’ll persist in saying he’s “ripping it off.” In this, you are wrong, but it hasn’t stopped you before, and I doubt it will in the future.
In addition, any stereotypes here are the ones you insist on putting in place yourself. Which really says much more about you than about McGruder or Alcaraz.
interpretations are all valid, according to Agrestic
Yet another willful misreading and continued twisting of the truth. Seriously, indie, you treat the truth like saltwater taffy. Maybe we should get you a job at a boardwalk.
agrestic about 10 years ago
I didn’t know intellectuals needed to kvetch to get their point across.
Who’s kvetching? I’m congratulating you on your outstanding performance. Truly one of your stand-out days today. One for the ages.
pam Miner about 10 years ago
indiethink, you are the reason I don’t read the comments anymore.
housepianist about 10 years ago
Wow, so many people are missing the message here.
The point is this – some whites have asked why there isn’t anything celebrating white history (White History Month, for example) or, as the strip suggest, a white-ish show. You don’t need anything like that. For every black television show that ever was, there were dozens of “white” television shows. But the need to distinguish that as white is moot because the truth is, american television (and history, and science, and academia, and..etc,) is primarily and predominately white.
No racism here. I’m not saying that it’s good or bad. It’s just what it is.