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Chepe: Why did we get T.P.'d by the Tea Party, Pepe? Pepe: We got T.P.'d because they're P.O.'d. Chepe: Why? Pepe: Because "the U.S.A. is D.O.A." Chepe: Bull- Pepe: Acronyms only, please.
The Tea Party people are a bunch (and I mean a BUNCH!!!) of ordinary Americans who are totally fed up with Washingtonâs spend, spend, spend and tax, tax, tax menatality. The Millions of Tea Party people donât hate minorities (some do I admit); they hate the fact that Washington doesnât have any sort of fiscal sense. If a spending bill will buy votes then its a good bill. Thatâs why our national debt is growing by TRILLIONS of dollars. A bill may be a good idea and may actually help those in need, buut that doesnât mean we can afford to do it.
âThe Tea Party people are a bunch (and I mean a BUNCH!!!) of ordinary Americans who are totally fed up with Washingtonâs spend, spend, spend and tax, tax, tax menatality (sic).â
Of course they only got âtotally fed upâ the moment a Democratic President was elected to fix a shattered economy left by GW Bush and his unfunded, deficit-exploding tax cuts, two new wars and prescription drug program. They only became âtotally fed upâ after 8 years of Republicans blowing through Bill Clintonâs budget surplus like drunken sailors.
âThe Millions of Tea Party people donât hate minorities (some do I admit); they hate the fact that Washington doesnât have any sort of fiscal sense.â
Did I mention the new, overwhelmingly elected Democratic President is black? Purely a coincidence, Iâm sure.
âIf a spending bill will buy votes then its a good bill. Thatâs why our national debt is growing by TRILLIONS of dollars.â
See the aforementioned âMedicare Advantageâ bill, which was pushed by Karl Rove in advance of the â04 election to lure seniors in Florida and Ohio.
âA bill may be a good idea and may actually help those in need, buut that doesnât mean we can afford to do it.â
Of course. Why would we want to help people with a deficit-neutral Health Care bill when we could start a third war with Iran? Or maybe we should cut capital gains taxes again. Itâs much more important for people to pay lower taxes for sitting around collecting dividends than for actual⊠work - right?
For eight years, GW Bush lowered taxes for the rich and issued tax rebates so that people could keep more of their own money, which he claimed would stimulate the economy.
How can we be over-taxed today, after 8 years of tax reductions?
Looks like thereâs an New Acronym for TEA Partiers. I read yesterday that they are going âNationalâ:
NTPF = National Tea Party Federation.
Now all they need is a Leader⊠Someone FearlessâŠ
The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle Trailer
âRemember - âYou Know Whoâ is known for âMoose Huntingââ
EDIT: This just in! It may be too late for some of Bullwinkleâs Friends! Saw this on TV this afternoon at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans:
To address several of the comments here: I know about a dozen people who have been involved with Tea Parties. They are all in favor of limited government, reduced taxes, individual freedom, and upholding the Constitution. And they all hated Bushâs economic wrong-doings as well as Obamaâs.
Also, being pro-individualism, they are strongly anti-racism. They also reject paranoid conspiracy theories. And they also intensely oppose Palin as a religious-nut intellectual light-weight.
The reason for the revolt now and not earlier is that we never before had a president with so clear a commitment to socialism, so obvious a rejection of Americaâs moral status as the leader of the free world, and a Congressional majority willing to shove it all down the publicâs throat even at the cost of losing in November and maybe 2012.
So comixavier, in summary, the tea-peers are a moderately large, but extremely vocal group who feel no obligation to use reason or logic to emphasize their point, which is that theyâre mad as hell (about something) and theyâre not gonna take it (whatever it is) anymore.
Sorry Pschearer, FAIL! If they hated Bushâs economic policies I never heard it. Our current president is no more socialist than any other president if so pleasde provide evidence of such. And if you want to talk about a congressional majority shoving policies down our throats how about the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act? We had to suffer 8 years of Bush and several years of a Republican majority but instead of issuing death threats we VOTED. This is still a republic democracy and no president can singlehandedly nullify the constitution no matter how much people like yourself like to believe he can. Seriously man, cool it with the hyperbole. Trust me, Iâm a socialist and Obama is not even close to being one. You might want to stop watching Glenn Beck and also knowing such a small number of tea partiers doesnât make you an expert.
Sorry Pilotx, FAIL! (whatever you think that means.) But thanks for the frank admission that you are a socialist and donât think Obama is one. I appreciate an honest enemy.
You speak of 8 years of suffering and then accuse me of hyperbole?
BTW, I rarely watch born-again Glenn Beck whom I often find embarrassing. You watch, I suppose, mad-dog Olbermann?
As for my unscientific sample, I never claimed it makes me an expert, just knowledgeable, especially compared to the slanted Tea Party reporting of most of the media.
So what in your life made a socialist out of you, and how would you answer a hard-core communist who might claim you are nowhere near a real socialist?
I agree that Obama is not a socialist. He did though inherit a hellish multitude of messes left by the Republicans and is trying to do what is necessary to get us out of them. I disagree with him on numerous issues but I also respect him for attempting to make things right again.
I donât consider a fellow American an enemy but hey, whatever floats your boat. No specific event made me a socialist just a recognition that we are a community and need common effort to succede. At least the previous poster admitted that there are more than a few tea partiers that oppose the president because he is Black, to pretend otherwise is dishonest.
I answered your question so answer mine, what specifically has the president done that is extra constitutional and threatens your freedoms?
Pilotx (the rest of you can skip this if you wish): A few years ago I gave a short speech to a small group explaining that there have been three main forms of socialism in recent history â Soviet style in which the government takes ownership of major economic activity â fascist style as invented by Mussolini in which government runs nominally private industry by decree â and Swedish style welfare state socialism, in which what gets nationalized is the taxpayer.
I predicted at that time that the U.S. was moving toward a Swedish-type welfare state. Boy, was I wrong! I would never have guessed that we could find a way to move toward all three at the same time, with government taking dominant ownership stakes in major industries, controlling most others through a mass of laws and decrees from a swarm of regulatory agencies, and now the latest, the start of a government take-over of the medical field which some measure as 1/6 the total U.S. economy and equivalent to the GDP of France.
America will not go socialist by revolution but by a death of a thousand cuts. Out throats are not being cut but rather a million bureaucratic mosquitos are draining us dry. Marx advocated socialism by parliamentary process before he got impatient and became revolutionary. Just because Congress passes a law and the Supreme Court can mangle a Constitutional clause to appear to fit doesnât make that law moral.
As for not wanting to call another American an enemy, you are right militarily, but that is not the battleground. Philosophy, ethics, and politics are, and there we are enemies because those who think like you are a danger to everyoneâs freedom no matter what good intentions you claim.
As for being a community and needing common effort, that is the lamest justification for socialism Iâve ever heard. Even the Israelis are dismantling the kibbutzes, and I wonder how many hippie communes still exist outside of maybe British Columbia. But these are pimples on the butt of massive central government control of all aspects of everyoneâs lives that has always been the dream of all good socialists.
Considering the bloody history of socialism around the world, socialists should be ashamed to admit it, which is why they are resurrecting old stolen terms like âprogressiveâ and âpopulistâ, to hide their real aims.
First of all there is no government takeover of 1/6th of the economy. This current bill makes sure everyone is covered by medical insurance which is supplied by private corporations. No takeover. Now as far as people âlike meâ being a threat to otherâs freedoms I beg to differ. I donât want government to have control over our lives in any manner but it is conservatives who seem to want the government to tell us what we can and canât do. A womanâs right to have a baby when she chooses to, who wants to take away that freedom? The freedom for a student to choose to pray to the god of their choice or not pray at all, who wants to take away that freedom and force al students to pray to the same deity? Who doesnât want to let people marry the consenting adult they want? You guessed it, conservatives. You talk a good game about freedom but conservatives only want freedom to do the things they like. You may be right because I am an enemy of anyone who wants to impose their âmoralsâ on me. If you want freedom you have to be for freedom for everyone not just those who look and think like you.
Templo S.U.D. almost 15 years ago
âD.O.A.â? And who, exactly, are these tea party people? I had been confused about this story all week.
Edcole1961 almost 15 years ago
If you really want to know what the tea party people are like, think Klu Klux Klan without the hoods.
herdleader53 almost 15 years ago
The Tea Party people are a bunch (and I mean a BUNCH!!!) of ordinary Americans who are totally fed up with Washingtonâs spend, spend, spend and tax, tax, tax menatality. The Millions of Tea Party people donât hate minorities (some do I admit); they hate the fact that Washington doesnât have any sort of fiscal sense. If a spending bill will buy votes then its a good bill. Thatâs why our national debt is growing by TRILLIONS of dollars. A bill may be a good idea and may actually help those in need, buut that doesnât mean we can afford to do it.
Dirty Dragon almost 15 years ago
âThe Tea Party people are a bunch (and I mean a BUNCH!!!) of ordinary Americans who are totally fed up with Washingtonâs spend, spend, spend and tax, tax, tax menatality (sic).â
Of course they only got âtotally fed upâ the moment a Democratic President was elected to fix a shattered economy left by GW Bush and his unfunded, deficit-exploding tax cuts, two new wars and prescription drug program. They only became âtotally fed upâ after 8 years of Republicans blowing through Bill Clintonâs budget surplus like drunken sailors.
âThe Millions of Tea Party people donât hate minorities (some do I admit); they hate the fact that Washington doesnât have any sort of fiscal sense.â
Did I mention the new, overwhelmingly elected Democratic President is black? Purely a coincidence, Iâm sure.
âIf a spending bill will buy votes then its a good bill. Thatâs why our national debt is growing by TRILLIONS of dollars.â
See the aforementioned âMedicare Advantageâ bill, which was pushed by Karl Rove in advance of the â04 election to lure seniors in Florida and Ohio.
âA bill may be a good idea and may actually help those in need, buut that doesnât mean we can afford to do it.â
Of course. Why would we want to help people with a deficit-neutral Health Care bill when we could start a third war with Iran? Or maybe we should cut capital gains taxes again. Itâs much more important for people to pay lower taxes for sitting around collecting dividends than for actual⊠work - right?
Puh-leeze.
longtimecomicsfan almost 15 years ago
For eight years, GW Bush lowered taxes for the rich and issued tax rebates so that people could keep more of their own money, which he claimed would stimulate the economy.
How can we be over-taxed today, after 8 years of tax reductions?
GJ_Jehosaphat almost 15 years ago
Looks like thereâs an New Acronym for TEA Partiers. I read yesterday that they are going âNationalâ:
NTPF = National Tea Party Federation.Now all they need is a Leader⊠Someone FearlessâŠ
The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle Trailer
âRemember - âYou Know Whoâ is known for âMoose Huntingââ
EDIT: This just in! It may be too late for some of Bullwinkleâs Friends! Saw this on TV this afternoon at the Southern Republican Leadership Conference in New Orleans:
Alaskan Caribou Jerky Found On Chairs!!!
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
To address several of the comments here: I know about a dozen people who have been involved with Tea Parties. They are all in favor of limited government, reduced taxes, individual freedom, and upholding the Constitution. And they all hated Bushâs economic wrong-doings as well as Obamaâs.
Also, being pro-individualism, they are strongly anti-racism. They also reject paranoid conspiracy theories. And they also intensely oppose Palin as a religious-nut intellectual light-weight.
The reason for the revolt now and not earlier is that we never before had a president with so clear a commitment to socialism, so obvious a rejection of Americaâs moral status as the leader of the free world, and a Congressional majority willing to shove it all down the publicâs throat even at the cost of losing in November and maybe 2012.
ottod Premium Member almost 15 years ago
So comixavier, in summary, the tea-peers are a moderately large, but extremely vocal group who feel no obligation to use reason or logic to emphasize their point, which is that theyâre mad as hell (about something) and theyâre not gonna take it (whatever it is) anymore.
pilotx almost 15 years ago
Sorry Pschearer, FAIL! If they hated Bushâs economic policies I never heard it. Our current president is no more socialist than any other president if so pleasde provide evidence of such. And if you want to talk about a congressional majority shoving policies down our throats how about the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act? We had to suffer 8 years of Bush and several years of a Republican majority but instead of issuing death threats we VOTED. This is still a republic democracy and no president can singlehandedly nullify the constitution no matter how much people like yourself like to believe he can. Seriously man, cool it with the hyperbole. Trust me, Iâm a socialist and Obama is not even close to being one. You might want to stop watching Glenn Beck and also knowing such a small number of tea partiers doesnât make you an expert.
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Sorry Pilotx, FAIL! (whatever you think that means.) But thanks for the frank admission that you are a socialist and donât think Obama is one. I appreciate an honest enemy.
You speak of 8 years of suffering and then accuse me of hyperbole?
BTW, I rarely watch born-again Glenn Beck whom I often find embarrassing. You watch, I suppose, mad-dog Olbermann?
As for my unscientific sample, I never claimed it makes me an expert, just knowledgeable, especially compared to the slanted Tea Party reporting of most of the media.
So what in your life made a socialist out of you, and how would you answer a hard-core communist who might claim you are nowhere near a real socialist?
Trebor39 almost 15 years ago
I agree that Obama is not a socialist. He did though inherit a hellish multitude of messes left by the Republicans and is trying to do what is necessary to get us out of them. I disagree with him on numerous issues but I also respect him for attempting to make things right again.
pilotx almost 15 years ago
I donât consider a fellow American an enemy but hey, whatever floats your boat. No specific event made me a socialist just a recognition that we are a community and need common effort to succede. At least the previous poster admitted that there are more than a few tea partiers that oppose the president because he is Black, to pretend otherwise is dishonest. I answered your question so answer mine, what specifically has the president done that is extra constitutional and threatens your freedoms?
RonBerg13 Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Hey, folks, take it easy on Obama.
After all, heâs currently fighting 2 wars - one against Israel and the other against small businesses.
So back off.
pschearer Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Pilotx (the rest of you can skip this if you wish): A few years ago I gave a short speech to a small group explaining that there have been three main forms of socialism in recent history â Soviet style in which the government takes ownership of major economic activity â fascist style as invented by Mussolini in which government runs nominally private industry by decree â and Swedish style welfare state socialism, in which what gets nationalized is the taxpayer.
I predicted at that time that the U.S. was moving toward a Swedish-type welfare state. Boy, was I wrong! I would never have guessed that we could find a way to move toward all three at the same time, with government taking dominant ownership stakes in major industries, controlling most others through a mass of laws and decrees from a swarm of regulatory agencies, and now the latest, the start of a government take-over of the medical field which some measure as 1/6 the total U.S. economy and equivalent to the GDP of France.
America will not go socialist by revolution but by a death of a thousand cuts. Out throats are not being cut but rather a million bureaucratic mosquitos are draining us dry. Marx advocated socialism by parliamentary process before he got impatient and became revolutionary. Just because Congress passes a law and the Supreme Court can mangle a Constitutional clause to appear to fit doesnât make that law moral.
As for not wanting to call another American an enemy, you are right militarily, but that is not the battleground. Philosophy, ethics, and politics are, and there we are enemies because those who think like you are a danger to everyoneâs freedom no matter what good intentions you claim.
As for being a community and needing common effort, that is the lamest justification for socialism Iâve ever heard. Even the Israelis are dismantling the kibbutzes, and I wonder how many hippie communes still exist outside of maybe British Columbia. But these are pimples on the butt of massive central government control of all aspects of everyoneâs lives that has always been the dream of all good socialists.
Considering the bloody history of socialism around the world, socialists should be ashamed to admit it, which is why they are resurrecting old stolen terms like âprogressiveâ and âpopulistâ, to hide their real aims.
pilotx almost 15 years ago
First of all there is no government takeover of 1/6th of the economy. This current bill makes sure everyone is covered by medical insurance which is supplied by private corporations. No takeover. Now as far as people âlike meâ being a threat to otherâs freedoms I beg to differ. I donât want government to have control over our lives in any manner but it is conservatives who seem to want the government to tell us what we can and canât do. A womanâs right to have a baby when she chooses to, who wants to take away that freedom? The freedom for a student to choose to pray to the god of their choice or not pray at all, who wants to take away that freedom and force al students to pray to the same deity? Who doesnât want to let people marry the consenting adult they want? You guessed it, conservatives. You talk a good game about freedom but conservatives only want freedom to do the things they like. You may be right because I am an enemy of anyone who wants to impose their âmoralsâ on me. If you want freedom you have to be for freedom for everyone not just those who look and think like you.