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Lewreader, one of the âStar Trekâ movies involved a Gorbachev-like Klingon attempting a perestroika-like reform of the Klingon Empire, for similar reasons - internal crises brought on by overextension and military overexpenditure. There was also a Chernobyl-like industrial/environmental catastrophe (the Klingon homeworld itself didnât explode, but something like that).
Kirk, being the most famous and successful Klingon-fighter around, was chosen to head the diplomatic negotiations from the Federationâs side. When Kirk himself asked âWhy ME?â Spock responded âThere is an old Vulcan proverb - âOnly Nixon could go to China.ââ
After defeating a faction of renegade Klingon generals who were opposed to detente (led by Shakespeare-quoting Christopher Plummer - âYou canât really appreciate Hamlet unless you hear it in the original Klingonâ), peace was made with the Klingons and they joined the Federation (or perhaps merely finalized an alliance, which included officer-exchange. I think Worf wasnât originally an official Starfleet officer).
To the best of my knowledge, though, itâs never been fully explained why Klingons have bone-ridges on their foreheads beginning with âStar Trek: The Motion Pictureâ but not before that, beyond Worfâs statement in an episode of âDeep Space Nineâ (where the cast went back in time and were inserted into the original-series episode âThe Trouble with Tribblesâ) that âIt is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders.â
(I think Iâve fully established my geek credentials, if they were in doubt.)
(By the way, Hamlet HAS been published in a Klingon translation, but I do not own it. Everybody knows that aliens canât do Shakespeare properly.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon
look under explanation and theories - pretty good enterprise episode about genetic augmentation issues
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan-Klingon_Alliance
klingons and romulans were allies, then enemies
beacuse of :
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Khitomer
and because the enterprise c showed up, starfleet and klingons are now allies
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Enterprise_C
i still havenât seen the latest movie - planning on checking it out soon tho
Hey FRITZOID & RABBIT Not having seen any Star Trek (or Star Wars) movies, I didnât understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects. But I did like the memory of âThe Trouble with Tribblesâ
Lewreader: âNot being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?â
âI didnât understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects.â
Whattaya busting my chops for? You knew enough to ask the question, and then complain when an answer is given?
Many of the Star Trek movies arenât special-effects driven. Theyâre character driven, and there has been some marvelous dialogue given to the characters. About half of the Star Trek movies have been really good (traditionally, the even-numbered ones are more highly regarded than the odd-numbered ones). âStar Trek II: The Wrath of Khanâ has been considered to be one of the best Sci-Fi/Adventure movies ever made.
margueritem over 14 years ago
Love itâŠ
Sisyphos over 14 years ago
Guess what, Mona? We know!
cdward over 14 years ago
Well, as long as thereâs no other melding going onâŠ..
lewisbower over 14 years ago
How is the Starship Enterprise like a roll of toilet paper?
Sorry, it was the only Klingon joke I know.
Not being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?
If Mona melds with a head full of stuffing, no one will know.
Clobbered by Science Premium Member over 14 years ago
Comment dit-on âgeekâ en Français?
fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago
Lewreader, one of the âStar Trekâ movies involved a Gorbachev-like Klingon attempting a perestroika-like reform of the Klingon Empire, for similar reasons - internal crises brought on by overextension and military overexpenditure. There was also a Chernobyl-like industrial/environmental catastrophe (the Klingon homeworld itself didnât explode, but something like that).
Kirk, being the most famous and successful Klingon-fighter around, was chosen to head the diplomatic negotiations from the Federationâs side. When Kirk himself asked âWhy ME?â Spock responded âThere is an old Vulcan proverb - âOnly Nixon could go to China.ââ
After defeating a faction of renegade Klingon generals who were opposed to detente (led by Shakespeare-quoting Christopher Plummer - âYou canât really appreciate Hamlet unless you hear it in the original Klingonâ), peace was made with the Klingons and they joined the Federation (or perhaps merely finalized an alliance, which included officer-exchange. I think Worf wasnât originally an official Starfleet officer).
To the best of my knowledge, though, itâs never been fully explained why Klingons have bone-ridges on their foreheads beginning with âStar Trek: The Motion Pictureâ but not before that, beyond Worfâs statement in an episode of âDeep Space Nineâ (where the cast went back in time and were inserted into the original-series episode âThe Trouble with Tribblesâ) that âIt is a long story. We do not discuss it with outsiders.â
(I think Iâve fully established my geek credentials, if they were in doubt.)
(By the way, Hamlet HAS been published in a Klingon translation, but I do not own it. Everybody knows that aliens canât do Shakespeare properly.)
autumnfire1957 over 14 years ago
I love Monaâs brows
trekkermint over 14 years ago
yes, worf has always been starfleet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon look under explanation and theories - pretty good enterprise episode about genetic augmentation issues
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Romulan-Klingon_Alliance klingons and romulans were allies, then enemies beacuse of : http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Khitomer and because the enterprise c showed up, starfleet and klingons are now allies http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Enterprise_C
i still havenât seen the latest movie - planning on checking it out soon tho
cpb124 over 14 years ago
Hey Mona, get your passport and get ready to go to Amsterdam, the first Klingon opera is going to be performed there soon.
lewisbower over 14 years ago
Hey FRITZOID & RABBIT Not having seen any Star Trek (or Star Wars) movies, I didnât understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects. But I did like the memory of âThe Trouble with Tribblesâ
trekkermint over 14 years ago
itâs geekspeak i like watching spaceships go boom :)
The missing M. Smokey over 14 years ago
Mind meld with Mona would be dangerous for anyone with a brain. Good thing Iâm stuffedâŠ.
fritzoid Premium Member over 14 years ago
Lewreader: âNot being a Trekkie, how is it that the Klingons are the enemy of Kirk and the allies of Piccard?â
âI didnât understand a word either of you said. Lets see, I pay to see people act, not special effects.â
Whattaya busting my chops for? You knew enough to ask the question, and then complain when an answer is given?
Many of the Star Trek movies arenât special-effects driven. Theyâre character driven, and there has been some marvelous dialogue given to the characters. About half of the Star Trek movies have been really good (traditionally, the even-numbered ones are more highly regarded than the odd-numbered ones). âStar Trek II: The Wrath of Khanâ has been considered to be one of the best Sci-Fi/Adventure movies ever made.