I know some rightwinger is going to bring up the latest Project Veritas vids as ‘proof’ that we need voter ID laws. Save yourselves the trouble. James O’Keefe, the sleazebag in charge of that outfit has a long history of dishonesty and deceptive behavior.
Both parties have episodes in their history where campaigns stayed barely within the law, or got caught stepping over that line. As long as people become really emotionally involved in wanting to see their side win, there are going to be people who lose sight of the honesty factor in trying to accomplish their goals. America has done a good job of keeping the situation under control, but it’s never perfect. In this campaign and every other, now past, and future, there will be isolated cheating. We have to nominate candidates who accept the process and the results instead of being whiney children who threaten revolution if they don’t win.
They succeeded. They gerrymandered NC so badly that a federal judge has ordered them to change it, and they’re STILL fighting the decision. As someone noted above, 2 million more people voted for Democratic candidates than Republican in the last election, and yet there are more Republicans are in the House than Democrats, which is a travesty of democracy. This is part of the GOP’s problem, of course – there are too many uncompromising nut-jobs in positions from which they effectively can’t be removed. But it’s the nation’s problem, too. We need major reform.Saying that “the Democrats did it too” is simply irrelevant. We need a better system — and there are several — to prevent ANY party. And the truth is that right now the GOP has been far more successful monopolizing the state level than the Democratic party ever was.
29 states have GOP-controlled election processes, representing 302 electoral votes. 17 states and the District of Columbia have a Democratic-controlled process, representing just 173 electors. The remaining 4 states, with a total of 63 electoral votes, have bipartisan boards. The election truly is rigged for the Republicans. These Republican Secretaries of State have moved to suppress the votes of Democrats and racial minorities. Which is why the Republicans don’t want him screaming about how rigged it is, because they have worked very hard to make it so.
Ohio Republicans got rid Dennis Kucinich by combining his district with another popular Dem’s district. The district is only connected by a beach that is underwater at high tide.
Exactly. All this blather about rigging is simple psychological projection by those (the right wing) who have already done so, and who therefore think that everyone else is doing it.
cripplious over 7 years ago
Gerrymandering is accomplished by both parties to protect certain area voting blocks. Ask any Californian
Simon_Jester over 7 years ago
I know some rightwinger is going to bring up the latest Project Veritas vids as ‘proof’ that we need voter ID laws. Save yourselves the trouble. James O’Keefe, the sleazebag in charge of that outfit has a long history of dishonesty and deceptive behavior.
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http://mediamatters.org/research/2011/10/24/updated-the-lies-of-james-okeefe/183780
dpd363 over 7 years ago
Gerrymandering only works in the House, so they succeeded there.
Happy Two Shoes over 7 years ago
Repblicons have to rig every election, they are in the minority.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 7 years ago
Both parties have episodes in their history where campaigns stayed barely within the law, or got caught stepping over that line. As long as people become really emotionally involved in wanting to see their side win, there are going to be people who lose sight of the honesty factor in trying to accomplish their goals. America has done a good job of keeping the situation under control, but it’s never perfect. In this campaign and every other, now past, and future, there will be isolated cheating. We have to nominate candidates who accept the process and the results instead of being whiney children who threaten revolution if they don’t win.
Motivemagus over 7 years ago
They succeeded. They gerrymandered NC so badly that a federal judge has ordered them to change it, and they’re STILL fighting the decision. As someone noted above, 2 million more people voted for Democratic candidates than Republican in the last election, and yet there are more Republicans are in the House than Democrats, which is a travesty of democracy. This is part of the GOP’s problem, of course – there are too many uncompromising nut-jobs in positions from which they effectively can’t be removed. But it’s the nation’s problem, too. We need major reform.Saying that “the Democrats did it too” is simply irrelevant. We need a better system — and there are several — to prevent ANY party. And the truth is that right now the GOP has been far more successful monopolizing the state level than the Democratic party ever was.
inevattable over 7 years ago
And don’t overlook the Florida fiasco that swept Dubya into power.
Kip W over 7 years ago
Trust you?
Mr. Blawt over 7 years ago
29 states have GOP-controlled election processes, representing 302 electoral votes. 17 states and the District of Columbia have a Democratic-controlled process, representing just 173 electors. The remaining 4 states, with a total of 63 electoral votes, have bipartisan boards. The election truly is rigged for the Republicans. These Republican Secretaries of State have moved to suppress the votes of Democrats and racial minorities. Which is why the Republicans don’t want him screaming about how rigged it is, because they have worked very hard to make it so.
Nantucket Premium Member over 7 years ago
Ohio Republicans got rid Dennis Kucinich by combining his district with another popular Dem’s district. The district is only connected by a beach that is underwater at high tide.
markjoseph125 over 7 years ago
Exactly. All this blather about rigging is simple psychological projection by those (the right wing) who have already done so, and who therefore think that everyone else is doing it.
hippogriff over 7 years ago
kurtzwicky
That should achieve an unconstitutional disparity of of population. Zip codes are based on volume of mail, not population at all.