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Iâve no beef with Scorsese opining that Marvel movies arenât âcinemaâ in the snobby âarthouseâ sense (although Ruben is quite right to mock that âsame story over and overâ garbage; itâs hypocritical AND untrue, and reveals that Martin doesnât have the first clue about what heâs judging). Conversely Francis Ford Coppola, who made sure that Victor Salva remained gainfully employed in Hollywood after his release, doesnât get to lecture anyone on whatâs âdespicable,â despite his obvious expertise on the subject.
âŠRuben IS mocking that, right? Because I think thereâs maybe six guys left in Tinseltown who havenât portrayed Jimmy Hoffa or someone standing in for Jimmy Hoffa or some other obnoxious mug who rose to power in organized crime only to lose everything.
âEndgameâ didnât prevent you from making âThe Irishman.â If you want to do something of value for cinema, fellas, go pick on slasher/torture/gorenography movies. âŠI mean, if that wouldnât hit too close to home.
I watched a bit of âThe Aviatorâ the other night and was reminded that, for all its skill, itâs a relentlessly ordinary film. There are great, complex movies being made, but Iâm not sure that any of the recent ones have been by Martin Scorsese.
Itâs a completely laughable argument that the Marvel movies arenât cinema when the main difference between the Marvel and DC movies was that the Marvel movies were all Genre movies that happened to have superheroes in them. Why Wonder Woman and Aquaman worked was that they were clear genre movies (WW is a War movie and AM is Regaining the Throne). Justice League was a superhero movie and wasnât very good. Green Lantern was awful. The Batman movies are very, very, very close to Scorsese movies.
The corporatization of Hollywood is what is killing cinema in general and mid-level movies specifically, not Marvel movies. Once all the movie houses went public, they became just like every other business where profit is the only motive so THEY demand billion-dollar movies. They arenât happy making a $25 million movie that will gross $100 million. I wish heâd put the blame where it belongs and not on movies.
KenseidenXL about 5 years ago
Dude looks like DeNiroâŠwhoâs ItalianâŠ.
Monster Hesh about 5 years ago
Iâve no beef with Scorsese opining that Marvel movies arenât âcinemaâ in the snobby âarthouseâ sense (although Ruben is quite right to mock that âsame story over and overâ garbage; itâs hypocritical AND untrue, and reveals that Martin doesnât have the first clue about what heâs judging). Conversely Francis Ford Coppola, who made sure that Victor Salva remained gainfully employed in Hollywood after his release, doesnât get to lecture anyone on whatâs âdespicable,â despite his obvious expertise on the subject.
âŠRuben IS mocking that, right? Because I think thereâs maybe six guys left in Tinseltown who havenât portrayed Jimmy Hoffa or someone standing in for Jimmy Hoffa or some other obnoxious mug who rose to power in organized crime only to lose everything.
âEndgameâ didnât prevent you from making âThe Irishman.â If you want to do something of value for cinema, fellas, go pick on slasher/torture/gorenography movies. âŠI mean, if that wouldnât hit too close to home.
Zebrastripes about 5 years ago
No remorseâŠ..
Pedmar Premium Member about 5 years ago
My favorite Scorsese movie is âHugo.â
masingermo about 5 years ago
I watched a bit of âThe Aviatorâ the other night and was reminded that, for all its skill, itâs a relentlessly ordinary film. There are great, complex movies being made, but Iâm not sure that any of the recent ones have been by Martin Scorsese.
Ken Norris Premium Member about 5 years ago
Wow! A non-political strip for a change.
babka Premium Member about 5 years ago
too bad he didnât bash the film
Paige Turner about 5 years ago
I donât get it. Itâs prolly the autism.
Godfreydaniel about 5 years ago
More kings of comedy, fewer gangsters, please, Marty!
smartman about 5 years ago
Itâs a completely laughable argument that the Marvel movies arenât cinema when the main difference between the Marvel and DC movies was that the Marvel movies were all Genre movies that happened to have superheroes in them. Why Wonder Woman and Aquaman worked was that they were clear genre movies (WW is a War movie and AM is Regaining the Throne). Justice League was a superhero movie and wasnât very good. Green Lantern was awful. The Batman movies are very, very, very close to Scorsese movies.
The corporatization of Hollywood is what is killing cinema in general and mid-level movies specifically, not Marvel movies. Once all the movie houses went public, they became just like every other business where profit is the only motive so THEY demand billion-dollar movies. They arenât happy making a $25 million movie that will gross $100 million. I wish heâd put the blame where it belongs and not on movies.
HappyDog/á”ÊłÊž ᎟á”ᶻᔠ⎠á”ʰᔠᶠá”âż á”ᶠᶊᔠPremium Member about 5 years ago
I think I walked into the Twilight zone. I think Iâll walk out.
GavinHamilton about 5 years ago
Donât get too hopeful about the non politics. There has been some commentary about the white working class, leading to Trump, of course.