I’ve no beef with Scorsese opining that Marvel movies aren’t “cinema” in the snobby “arthouse” sense (although Ruben is quite right to mock that “same story over and over” garbage; it’s hypocritical AND untrue, and reveals that Martin doesn’t have the first clue about what he’s judging). Conversely Francis Ford Coppola, who made sure that Victor Salva remained gainfully employed in Hollywood after his release, doesn’t get to lecture anyone on what’s “despicable,” despite his obvious expertise on the subject.
…Ruben IS mocking that, right? Because I think there’s maybe six guys left in Tinseltown who haven’t portrayed Jimmy Hoffa or someone standing in for Jimmy Hoffa or some other obnoxious mug who rose to power in organized crime only to lose everything.
“Endgame” didn’t prevent you from making “The Irishman.” If you want to do something of value for cinema, fellas, go pick on slasher/torture/gorenography movies. …I mean, if that wouldn’t hit too close to home.
I watched a bit of “The Aviator” the other night and was reminded that, for all its skill, it’s a relentlessly ordinary film. There are great, complex movies being made, but I’m not sure that any of the recent ones have been by Martin Scorsese.
It’s a completely laughable argument that the Marvel movies aren’t cinema when the main difference between the Marvel and DC movies was that the Marvel movies were all Genre movies that happened to have superheroes in them. Why Wonder Woman and Aquaman worked was that they were clear genre movies (WW is a War movie and AM is Regaining the Throne). Justice League was a superhero movie and wasn’t very good. Green Lantern was awful. The Batman movies are very, very, very close to Scorsese movies.
The corporatization of Hollywood is what is killing cinema in general and mid-level movies specifically, not Marvel movies. Once all the movie houses went public, they became just like every other business where profit is the only motive so THEY demand billion-dollar movies. They aren’t happy making a $25 million movie that will gross $100 million. I wish he’d put the blame where it belongs and not on movies.
KenseidenXL almost 5 years ago
Dude looks like DeNiro…who’s Italian….
Monster Hesh almost 5 years ago
I’ve no beef with Scorsese opining that Marvel movies aren’t “cinema” in the snobby “arthouse” sense (although Ruben is quite right to mock that “same story over and over” garbage; it’s hypocritical AND untrue, and reveals that Martin doesn’t have the first clue about what he’s judging). Conversely Francis Ford Coppola, who made sure that Victor Salva remained gainfully employed in Hollywood after his release, doesn’t get to lecture anyone on what’s “despicable,” despite his obvious expertise on the subject.
…Ruben IS mocking that, right? Because I think there’s maybe six guys left in Tinseltown who haven’t portrayed Jimmy Hoffa or someone standing in for Jimmy Hoffa or some other obnoxious mug who rose to power in organized crime only to lose everything.
“Endgame” didn’t prevent you from making “The Irishman.” If you want to do something of value for cinema, fellas, go pick on slasher/torture/gorenography movies. …I mean, if that wouldn’t hit too close to home.
Zebrastripes almost 5 years ago
No remorse…..
Pedmar Premium Member almost 5 years ago
My favorite Scorsese movie is “Hugo.”
masingermo almost 5 years ago
I watched a bit of “The Aviator” the other night and was reminded that, for all its skill, it’s a relentlessly ordinary film. There are great, complex movies being made, but I’m not sure that any of the recent ones have been by Martin Scorsese.
Ken Norris Premium Member almost 5 years ago
Wow! A non-political strip for a change.
babka Premium Member almost 5 years ago
too bad he didn’t bash the film
Paige Turner almost 5 years ago
I don’t get it. It’s prolly the autism.
Godfreydaniel almost 5 years ago
More kings of comedy, fewer gangsters, please, Marty!
smartman almost 5 years ago
It’s a completely laughable argument that the Marvel movies aren’t cinema when the main difference between the Marvel and DC movies was that the Marvel movies were all Genre movies that happened to have superheroes in them. Why Wonder Woman and Aquaman worked was that they were clear genre movies (WW is a War movie and AM is Regaining the Throne). Justice League was a superhero movie and wasn’t very good. Green Lantern was awful. The Batman movies are very, very, very close to Scorsese movies.
The corporatization of Hollywood is what is killing cinema in general and mid-level movies specifically, not Marvel movies. Once all the movie houses went public, they became just like every other business where profit is the only motive so THEY demand billion-dollar movies. They aren’t happy making a $25 million movie that will gross $100 million. I wish he’d put the blame where it belongs and not on movies.
HappyDog/ᵀʳʸ ᴮᵒᶻᵒ ⁴ ᵗʰᵉ ᶠᵘⁿ ᵒᶠ ᶦᵗ Premium Member almost 5 years ago
I think I walked into the Twilight zone. I think I’ll walk out.
GavinHamilton almost 5 years ago
Don’t get too hopeful about the non politics. There has been some commentary about the white working class, leading to Trump, of course.