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Todayâs strip was Bill Wattersonâs final one before he went on the first of his two sabbaticals. He was away for nine months, from May 1991 to February 1992. During that time, the syndicate published reruns of Calvin and Hobbes.
Here on GoComics, we are now reading 20-year-old reruns of Calvin and Hobbes, so itâs a bit like living in a time warp. I wonder what reruns GoComics will publish beginning tomorrow. If they rerun the strips that were rerun during Bill Wattersonâs sabbatical, then we will be reading the reruns that they run of the reruns that were run. That would be like living in a time warp within a time warp.
Fortunately, GoComics wonât turn off the strip for nine months. If they were to do that, we would all have to just hang around in front of our computers and read Calvin and Hobbes comic books while we wait.
So, today I posted the first âx,â Dogsniff posted the second âx,â and then Marg posted her comment a couple of minutes later. But GoComics bumped our âxâ comments into second and third place, making Marg the first poster. Hence, her comment about the two Xâs, since she saw them before she posted. Then I wrote over my âxâ comment, and then Dogsniff wrote over his. (I feel like Iâm writing the final chapter of a mystery novel.) This has been extremely exciting, and Iâm glad I somehow found the time for this edifying activity, but I think tomorrow at this time Iâll watch infomercials on TV instead.
(For those of you who are now entirely baffled, you didnât read yesterdayâs comments.)
Solomon stated that a lot in life is controlled by nothing more than time and unforeseen occurrence, which quells the idea of âeverything happens for a reasonâ (without getting into the physics of it). Some things just happen because they do.
Hi Hobbes, the Poster, today your comment on time warps and re-runs sounds suspicously like Calvinâs philosophy??? LOL
Itâs great to see Marg back at the top of the comments again.
The GoComics servers are not synchronized. Theyâve been that way for a while now. Therefore the time stamps are about 5 or more minutes off. Therefore Margâs comment made it to the top, where she should be.
Reading comic books to kill time works for me. Calvin will be in heaven when he can finally see them on the internet though.
Freud said â Sometimes a cigar is just a cigarâ.
Seneca (Roman Philosopher) said that âLuck is what happens when Opportunity meets Preparationâ. Being in the right place wonât help if your not prepared when opportunity knocks.
So now we learn that Marg has an âinâ with goComics. Thatâs why her postings always come first.
Iâm shocked and appalled!! My heroine has feet of clay.
Next thing, theyâll tell me there is no Easter Bunny.
I personally donât care if a person posts first or not but if someone wants to make a game of it and play, let them have some fun. People read an awful lot into some of these comics and comments that just isnât there. And if you must turn a simple comic strip into a political forum at least please keep a civil tongue in your head. Life is too short to be rude to anyone.
Calvin is so reckless; something is liable to fall off the wagon at the wrong time and the wrong place.
âYou picked a fine time to leave me Lucille (loose wheel)!â
âFirstersâ will always be around. Someone has to be first, and a simple mind thinks that position has a place of importance. In the case of Mr Dogsniff, it merely serves as a tool to highlight a lack of class in choosing to make a tasteless joke in a public forum.
I respect the right of any individual to make humor, even racist humor, at an opportunity when the audience is prepared. Most stand-up comedians and performance artists spend time developing a charater or act to a point where comments about race, religion, sex, etc⊠are established as comical, not hateful.
A poorly prepared reader pulling up yesterdays page who may not always read the posts and just checks out the comics might see that comment right under the strip, find it offensive, hateful, rude, or alienating, causing them never to return.
Not everybody here knows me Dogsniff, and not everybody knows you either. If you find the âfirstâ position so important and coveted, please take some responsability for the forum you represent.
Iâm âentirely baffledâ by the term âthose of youâ, which is very commonly used. Who are those and who are you? It seems to me that âthose ofâ is superfluous.
No offense to any particular person is intended, and I trust that none will be taken. Itâs a real question!
To every thing there is a season, AND A TIME TO EVERY PURPOSE under the heaven: - Ecclesiastes 3:1
Nothing is random, or by chance, or luck. It only appears that way, sometimes.
âthose of youâ is a colloquialism used when adressing a group of people. âYouâ is the collecticve term for the group itself, and the modifier âthose ofâ directs the comment to the particular members of the crowd that the speakers comments apply to.
I understood Hobbesâ comment, so I was not one of âthoseâ that was baffled. If you were baffled, you would be one of âthoseâ that were (obviously). It was just a tongue-in-cheek tag on to a clever albeit confusing post pointing out the origin of his whole comment.
Boy, am I getting old. I had completely forgotten about reading comic books at the drug store. Every Sunday morning at the local Rexall. Mighty Mouse, Donald and Mickey, Scrooge McDuck, Bugs Bunny and the occasional Foghorn J. Leghorn. Good stuff!
Dallas Mugno,
Thank you for the well-said explanation, but actually, I understood both Hobbes and the meaning of the term.
My problem with âthose of youâ is that the commenter is not really speaking to the âyouâ group so why refer to them at all. Why not just say âfor you who are now entirely baffledâ? Besides, if a modifier was necessary or even appropriate, wouldnât âtheseâ be more apt than âthoseâ since they are the ones being addressed, (and either one should modify a noun or pronoun). âTheseâ are here and âthoseâ are there.
If anyone really was âentirely baffledâ your explanation should clear things up for âthoseâ people (them). :o)
A drug store was a great place to grab a comic and read for a bit, they had a spinner rack or shelf with a handful of common titles sitting out with their magazines. They werenât hinging their business on it, so it didnât really effect them to let us sit around and âsampleâ the new Superman for the week. The didnât lose too much, and we more than likely bought soda, candy, and even the occasional comic.
A comic shop, however, depends on sales of the books as a primary revenue stream. Letting customers read in the store without buying is detrimental to staying open. Look at Borders, which just closed half itâs stores, or B&N, which isnât far behind.
People can read books in those stores without buying them, and they sell eReaders which prevent people from ever having to go back in there at all. That effectively cuts out their foot traffic and profitability.
Consider having your buddy with the comic shop establish a readerâs club, which would have a monthly or annual charge for people to hang and read the books. Give them 10% off their prices as a benefit, if theyâre not a member they either have to buy the book or join the club in order to read it. Sure it may cut out some cheap people, but they arenât spending any money as it is.
Ah, memories! On just about every Saturday, dad would give each of us kids a quarter. We would walk 5 miles to town, spend 10 cents each to attend the afternoon western, 5 cents each for a drink and 5 cents for a bag of popcorn. After the movie we would drop by the drugstore to get a 5 cent cone of ice cream to eat before the long walk home.
Back in those days, the tops of unsold comic books were cut off and sent back to the distributor for a refund. The proprietor of the drug store would let us go to the back storage room and select one book each to take home with us.
We never realized how poor we were or how generous dad was with his hard earned 75 cents.
I was often allowed to buy a comic book (usually Uncle Scrooge.) I still have most of my collection under the bed â the catalogs say they have increased about a thousand percent in value, but thatâs still only a dollar each. Guess I should have gone with the sex and violence genre!
âBack in those days, the tops of unsold comic books were cut off and sent back to the distributor for a refund. The proprietor of the drug store would let us go to the back storage room and select one book each to take home with us.â
It was still done that way in the 1990s, I was involved with magazine distribution back then. For all I know, itâs still done that way, because why ship the whole magazine back, send the cover back for proof of the unsold copies and recycle the rest of the magazine locally.
Some of these posts remind me of the answer to the age-old question about when is it enough? The answer is, of course, âwhen itâs too muchâ. In terms of todayâs cartoon, the tigerâs aescerbic outlook is wonderfully wry and funnyâŠ.
Mom wouldnât let me buy anything at the drugstore but Dell or Gold Key comics, although she did allow Classics Illustrated, to my surprise. No war, crime, superhero or horror comics. Those I had to read, unbeknownst to her, at the barber shop, always well-stocked with the latest. Later Iâd buy MAD. Mom got a huge kick out of Don Martin.
You highlighted the verse correctly, however, there is a word in there you obviously overlooked the meaning of: PURPOSE. When someone loses a loved one to some accident, is there a âpurposeâ in that?
Solomon was correct, being the second wisest person to walk the earth, since he was given divine wisdom. He stated that âtime and unforeseen occurrence befall âusâ allâ. In other words, sometimes we are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. God has no âpurposeâ in the death of someoneâs baby, or mate. And when we give him the blame we do a disservice to his name and reputation, considering all He has done for us.
To rogue53,
From my perspective, I didnât overlook the meaning of PURPOSE. I truly believe God has a purpose in everything that happens under the sun and under the heaven in that he preordained it all. I donât âgive God the blameâ for anything, but I think He is responsible for everything. God is sovereign; âHe does according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, what are you doing?â Daniel 4:35b
God is love, God is holy, and God is righteous.
âShall not the Judge of all the earth do right?â
Genesis 18:25b
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the Lord.
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:8,9
And we know that all things WORK TOGETHER for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his PURPOSE.
Romans 8:28
It could go on ad infinitum, but suffice it to say that God makes no mistakes. âIt will all come out in the washâ as the saying goes.
Puddlegum, if God preordained it all, then there is no such thing as manâs free will to choose. That to me would make the whole subject of Godâs love for man by sending us a means of redemption and manâs love for God by freely accepting that gift completely meaningless. All knowing DOES NOT mean preordained.
Hobbes and Puddlegum, Dallas would have know what âyâallâ meant. Single or plural, whole group or sub set, makes no difference. Much shorter than âthose of youâ.
Another contraction I like is âmâerâ, from âthem areâ.
My better half does go ballistic though when I say âtheyâsâ instead of âthere isâ or âthey areâ. I like to be efficient in my oral communications, quite different from my writing. LOL
People have tried for years to wring the hillbilly out of me without success.
Your comment makes no sense in response to what I wrote. Please read it again, and show me where I stated there is a âpurposeâ to pain and suffering, brought about by manâs initial failure to follow Godâs command.
puddleglum:
If God âforeordainedâ everything that happens in life. What good would it do for him to ask us to âseek for Him and find Him, when in fact He is not far off from each one of usâ? If he âforeordainedâ our fate or destiny, what choices do we as individuals really make?
God created man âin His imageâ, in that we have the same capacity for His personal characteristics, although to a lower degree. Would you âforeordainâ your child to be a murderer, rapist, and then give them eternal damnation for doing exactly what you intended they do?
If you, as an imperfect human can see the flaw in that, then you should be able to understand that God would not be so cruel either.
Astounding that a single word in this cartoon, âepiphanyâ has produced so much reaction in terms of the debate about free will and determinism, discussed by Paul in the latter chapters of Romans. One thing is obvious: we are on the wrong side of the fence to have an âabsoluteâ answer with respect to the debate. As for me, I am reminded that the Lord never expresses any one of His attributes at the expense of any of the othersâŠ..
margueritem almost 14 years ago
Hey, two (2) Xs!
I like that plan, Calvin!
Hobbes Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Hi Marg
Today you were in the right place at the right time.
Hobbes Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Todayâs strip was Bill Wattersonâs final one before he went on the first of his two sabbaticals. He was away for nine months, from May 1991 to February 1992. During that time, the syndicate published reruns of Calvin and Hobbes.
Here on GoComics, we are now reading 20-year-old reruns of Calvin and Hobbes, so itâs a bit like living in a time warp. I wonder what reruns GoComics will publish beginning tomorrow. If they rerun the strips that were rerun during Bill Wattersonâs sabbatical, then we will be reading the reruns that they run of the reruns that were run. That would be like living in a time warp within a time warp.
Fortunately, GoComics wonât turn off the strip for nine months. If they were to do that, we would all have to just hang around in front of our computers and read Calvin and Hobbes comic books while we wait.
MontanaLady almost 14 years ago
AhhhhhhâŠâŠâŠ.I remember the good ole days of reading comic books at the drug store!!!!!âŠâŠâŠâŠâŠâŠ
rentier almost 14 years ago
Epiphany is good, but not too early!!
shzlss almost 14 years ago
Love it. Iâm taking this approach to life from now on
Also, Hobbes, talking in circles again? I love circles
lewisbower almost 14 years ago
I know many who subscribe to this philosophy.
Rakkav almost 14 years ago
I should send this to a counselor I know as a classic illustration of what Carl Jung would call âThinking in the service of Feelingâ.
Hobbes Premium Member almost 14 years ago
So, today I posted the first âx,â Dogsniff posted the second âx,â and then Marg posted her comment a couple of minutes later. But GoComics bumped our âxâ comments into second and third place, making Marg the first poster. Hence, her comment about the two Xâs, since she saw them before she posted. Then I wrote over my âxâ comment, and then Dogsniff wrote over his. (I feel like Iâm writing the final chapter of a mystery novel.) This has been extremely exciting, and Iâm glad I somehow found the time for this edifying activity, but I think tomorrow at this time Iâll watch infomercials on TV instead.
(For those of you who are now entirely baffled, you didnât read yesterdayâs comments.)
rogue53 almost 14 years ago
So, this is what random means. Got it.
Solomon stated that a lot in life is controlled by nothing more than time and unforeseen occurrence, which quells the idea of âeverything happens for a reasonâ (without getting into the physics of it). Some things just happen because they do.
JoanHelen almost 14 years ago
Hi Hobbes, the Poster, today your comment on time warps and re-runs sounds suspicously like Calvinâs philosophy??? LOL Itâs great to see Marg back at the top of the comments again.
GROG Premium Member almost 14 years ago
The GoComics servers are not synchronized. Theyâve been that way for a while now. Therefore the time stamps are about 5 or more minutes off. Therefore Margâs comment made it to the top, where she should be.
Reading comic books to kill time works for me. Calvin will be in heaven when he can finally see them on the internet though.
Good Morning, Marg, Mike & â Lonewolfâ
Wiseguy411 almost 14 years ago
Freud said â Sometimes a cigar is just a cigarâ.
Seneca (Roman Philosopher) said that âLuck is what happens when Opportunity meets Preparationâ. Being in the right place wonât help if your not prepared when opportunity knocks.
florchi almost 14 years ago
This is one of my favorite strips; love Hobbesâ use of the word âEpiphany.â
Andrewheaney12 almost 14 years ago
i love this strip!
rentier almost 14 years ago
Hobbes I quited to be first, itâs sensless!
Ray_C almost 14 years ago
So now we learn that Marg has an âinâ with goComics. Thatâs why her postings always come first. Iâm shocked and appalled!! My heroine has feet of clay. Next thing, theyâll tell me there is no Easter Bunny.
twj0729 almost 14 years ago
Why is it so important to be âfirstâ on GoComics? Who cares? Just write your comments and get on with it! and while youâre at it, GET A LIFE!!!
Herb Thiel Premium Member almost 14 years ago
I personally donât care if a person posts first or not but if someone wants to make a game of it and play, let them have some fun. People read an awful lot into some of these comics and comments that just isnât there. And if you must turn a simple comic strip into a political forum at least please keep a civil tongue in your head. Life is too short to be rude to anyone.
Puddleglum2 almost 14 years ago
Calvin is so reckless; something is liable to fall off the wagon at the wrong time and the wrong place. âYou picked a fine time to leave me Lucille (loose wheel)!â
mike.firesmith almost 14 years ago
**Good morning Marg! Good morning Fran! Good Morning LâWolf! Good Morning Grog!**
âThereâs no place like the right timeâ -Donna The Buffalo
Dallas1701D almost 14 years ago
âFirstersâ will always be around. Someone has to be first, and a simple mind thinks that position has a place of importance. In the case of Mr Dogsniff, it merely serves as a tool to highlight a lack of class in choosing to make a tasteless joke in a public forum.
I respect the right of any individual to make humor, even racist humor, at an opportunity when the audience is prepared. Most stand-up comedians and performance artists spend time developing a charater or act to a point where comments about race, religion, sex, etc⊠are established as comical, not hateful.
A poorly prepared reader pulling up yesterdays page who may not always read the posts and just checks out the comics might see that comment right under the strip, find it offensive, hateful, rude, or alienating, causing them never to return.
Not everybody here knows me Dogsniff, and not everybody knows you either. If you find the âfirstâ position so important and coveted, please take some responsability for the forum you represent.
cleokaya almost 14 years ago
I like Calvinâs philosophy!
fran650 almost 14 years ago
HI Mike, havenât seen you around for awhile. And I really didnât expect to see a member of the Buffalo Herd on here.
Puddleglum2 almost 14 years ago
Iâm âentirely baffledâ by the term âthose of youâ, which is very commonly used. Who are those and who are you? It seems to me that âthose ofâ is superfluous. No offense to any particular person is intended, and I trust that none will be taken. Itâs a real question!
Puddleglum2 almost 14 years ago
To every thing there is a season, AND A TIME TO EVERY PURPOSE under the heaven: - Ecclesiastes 3:1 Nothing is random, or by chance, or luck. It only appears that way, sometimes.
Dallas1701D almost 14 years ago
âthose of youâ is a colloquialism used when adressing a group of people. âYouâ is the collecticve term for the group itself, and the modifier âthose ofâ directs the comment to the particular members of the crowd that the speakers comments apply to.
I understood Hobbesâ comment, so I was not one of âthoseâ that was baffled. If you were baffled, you would be one of âthoseâ that were (obviously). It was just a tongue-in-cheek tag on to a clever albeit confusing post pointing out the origin of his whole comment.
DanHills almost 14 years ago
Boy, am I getting old. I had completely forgotten about reading comic books at the drug store. Every Sunday morning at the local Rexall. Mighty Mouse, Donald and Mickey, Scrooge McDuck, Bugs Bunny and the occasional Foghorn J. Leghorn. Good stuff!
Puddleglum2 almost 14 years ago
Dallas Mugno, Thank you for the well-said explanation, but actually, I understood both Hobbes and the meaning of the term. My problem with âthose of youâ is that the commenter is not really speaking to the âyouâ group so why refer to them at all. Why not just say âfor you who are now entirely baffledâ? Besides, if a modifier was necessary or even appropriate, wouldnât âtheseâ be more apt than âthoseâ since they are the ones being addressed, (and either one should modify a noun or pronoun). âTheseâ are here and âthoseâ are there. If anyone really was âentirely baffledâ your explanation should clear things up for âthoseâ people (them). :o)
ratlum almost 14 years ago
In front of a drug store is ok with me. But success might be slow getting around to drug stores.
Dallas1701D almost 14 years ago
A drug store was a great place to grab a comic and read for a bit, they had a spinner rack or shelf with a handful of common titles sitting out with their magazines. They werenât hinging their business on it, so it didnât really effect them to let us sit around and âsampleâ the new Superman for the week. The didnât lose too much, and we more than likely bought soda, candy, and even the occasional comic.
A comic shop, however, depends on sales of the books as a primary revenue stream. Letting customers read in the store without buying is detrimental to staying open. Look at Borders, which just closed half itâs stores, or B&N, which isnât far behind.
People can read books in those stores without buying them, and they sell eReaders which prevent people from ever having to go back in there at all. That effectively cuts out their foot traffic and profitability.
Consider having your buddy with the comic shop establish a readerâs club, which would have a monthly or annual charge for people to hang and read the books. Give them 10% off their prices as a benefit, if theyâre not a member they either have to buy the book or join the club in order to read it. Sure it may cut out some cheap people, but they arenât spending any money as it is.
dahawk almost 14 years ago
Ah, memories! On just about every Saturday, dad would give each of us kids a quarter. We would walk 5 miles to town, spend 10 cents each to attend the afternoon western, 5 cents each for a drink and 5 cents for a bag of popcorn. After the movie we would drop by the drugstore to get a 5 cent cone of ice cream to eat before the long walk home.
Back in those days, the tops of unsold comic books were cut off and sent back to the distributor for a refund. The proprietor of the drug store would let us go to the back storage room and select one book each to take home with us.
We never realized how poor we were or how generous dad was with his hard earned 75 cents.
Hobbes Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Hi Puddleglum2
Well, somehow the phrase âto those of youâ just seemed preferable to saying, âto the subset of yâall.â
I feared that using the latter phrase would leave some readers at least partially baffled, if not entirely.
:>)
Wiseguy411 almost 14 years ago
Dahawk,
In my day it was 25 cents for the movie, 10 cents for the popcorn, 5 cents for a small fountain drink and 5 cents each way for the bus.
It was wonderful to be âlet looseâ on our own. Something no parent would allow these days (or at least would tremble in fear if they did).
JP Steve Premium Member almost 14 years ago
Nice memories, dahawk!
I was often allowed to buy a comic book (usually Uncle Scrooge.) I still have most of my collection under the bed â the catalogs say they have increased about a thousand percent in value, but thatâs still only a dollar each. Guess I should have gone with the sex and violence genre!
zerotsm almost 14 years ago
âBack in those days, the tops of unsold comic books were cut off and sent back to the distributor for a refund. The proprietor of the drug store would let us go to the back storage room and select one book each to take home with us.â
It was still done that way in the 1990s, I was involved with magazine distribution back then. For all I know, itâs still done that way, because why ship the whole magazine back, send the cover back for proof of the unsold copies and recycle the rest of the magazine locally.
gofinsc almost 14 years ago
How long do you wait at the drugstore before you decide that isnât the right place?
lin4869 almost 14 years ago
Hobbes, youâre cracking me up today with your rerun assessment. :D
khpage almost 14 years ago
Some of these posts remind me of the answer to the age-old question about when is it enough? The answer is, of course, âwhen itâs too muchâ. In terms of todayâs cartoon, the tigerâs aescerbic outlook is wonderfully wry and funnyâŠ.
artybee almost 14 years ago
Mom wouldnât let me buy anything at the drugstore but Dell or Gold Key comics, although she did allow Classics Illustrated, to my surprise. No war, crime, superhero or horror comics. Those I had to read, unbeknownst to her, at the barber shop, always well-stocked with the latest. Later Iâd buy MAD. Mom got a huge kick out of Don Martin.
rogue53 almost 14 years ago
To Puddleglum:
You highlighted the verse correctly, however, there is a word in there you obviously overlooked the meaning of: PURPOSE. When someone loses a loved one to some accident, is there a âpurposeâ in that?
Solomon was correct, being the second wisest person to walk the earth, since he was given divine wisdom. He stated that âtime and unforeseen occurrence befall âusâ allâ. In other words, sometimes we are just in the wrong place at the wrong time. God has no âpurposeâ in the death of someoneâs baby, or mate. And when we give him the blame we do a disservice to his name and reputation, considering all He has done for us.
Puddleglum2 almost 14 years ago
To rogue53, From my perspective, I didnât overlook the meaning of PURPOSE. I truly believe God has a purpose in everything that happens under the sun and under the heaven in that he preordained it all. I donât âgive God the blameâ for anything, but I think He is responsible for everything. God is sovereign; âHe does according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, what are you doing?â Daniel 4:35b God is love, God is holy, and God is righteous. âShall not the Judge of all the earth do right?â Genesis 18:25b For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts. Isaiah 55:8,9 And we know that all things WORK TOGETHER for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his PURPOSE. Romans 8:28 It could go on ad infinitum, but suffice it to say that God makes no mistakes. âIt will all come out in the washâ as the saying goes.
GROG Premium Member almost 14 years ago
And what is that, rogue53? Pain and suffering? Sorry canât buy it.
dahawk almost 14 years ago
Puddlegum, if God preordained it all, then there is no such thing as manâs free will to choose. That to me would make the whole subject of Godâs love for man by sending us a means of redemption and manâs love for God by freely accepting that gift completely meaningless. All knowing DOES NOT mean preordained.
dahawk almost 14 years ago
Hobbes and Puddlegum, Dallas would have know what âyâallâ meant. Single or plural, whole group or sub set, makes no difference. Much shorter than âthose of youâ.
Another contraction I like is âmâerâ, from âthem areâ.
My better half does go ballistic though when I say âtheyâsâ instead of âthere isâ or âthey areâ. I like to be efficient in my oral communications, quite different from my writing. LOL
People have tried for years to wring the hillbilly out of me without success.
rogue53 almost 14 years ago
Grog:
Your comment makes no sense in response to what I wrote. Please read it again, and show me where I stated there is a âpurposeâ to pain and suffering, brought about by manâs initial failure to follow Godâs command.
puddleglum:
If God âforeordainedâ everything that happens in life. What good would it do for him to ask us to âseek for Him and find Him, when in fact He is not far off from each one of usâ? If he âforeordainedâ our fate or destiny, what choices do we as individuals really make?
God created man âin His imageâ, in that we have the same capacity for His personal characteristics, although to a lower degree. Would you âforeordainâ your child to be a murderer, rapist, and then give them eternal damnation for doing exactly what you intended they do?
If you, as an imperfect human can see the flaw in that, then you should be able to understand that God would not be so cruel either.
Gretchen's Mom almost 14 years ago
Calvin, if you donât know when the right time is then how could you possibly know where the right place is?!?
khpage almost 14 years ago
Astounding that a single word in this cartoon, âepiphanyâ has produced so much reaction in terms of the debate about free will and determinism, discussed by Paul in the latter chapters of Romans. One thing is obvious: we are on the wrong side of the fence to have an âabsoluteâ answer with respect to the debate. As for me, I am reminded that the Lord never expresses any one of His attributes at the expense of any of the othersâŠ..
hihigirl almost 14 years ago
Aahh. So THIS is where they start to start all over again, a?
FlippySuper over 13 years ago
And here we go,back and forth