In America we have religious freedom. The freedom to worship or not as each of us choose and to live our lives according to our beliefs.
I just wish that other religions would embrace that precept and stop trying to get laws enacted that force everyone to live their lives by their beliefs.
Europeans left Europe and came to America to escape religious persecution. And ever since, just about every American who came here or was or is descended from one who came here has religiously persecuted anyone who wasn’t a member of their own religion. And almost to a person, they’re unbelievably hypocritical about it. I fully expect to see the Salem witch trials to be reinstated any day now.
I believe in God. I don’t believe in religion. Religion sounds like, gasp, Socialism. Or more like National Socialism; socialism if you’re in the accepted group, persecution if you’re not.
New York Times The Interpreter: The Rising ‘Day X’ Threat From the Far-Right — For QAnon it is ‘The Storm,’ White power groups have long promised a coming catastrophic race war. And in Germany and Austria, an imagined neo-Nazi putsch is heralded as ‘Day X’ — when the democratic order collapses and they take over. “In many ways we can see how January 6th was a kind of loosely formed coalition around this idea of accelerationism,” said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, the director of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, said of the attack on the United States Capitol Building last January. “I have thought a lot about the parallels with the Weimar Republic,” she said. “I think we have to consider the possibility that this was the beginning of something.” Anetta Kahane, a prominent Jewish activist in Germany, is intimately familiar with the risks that brings. Accelerationists, Ms. Kahane believes, want to trigger Day X, not merely wait for it to occur. “The Nazis are not patient, they don’t want to wait. If the revolution doesn’t start by itself, you have to help it along,” she said. “It’s an active strategy, not a passive one.”
“The United States is a country that is always like to think of itself as a beacon of democracy,” Dr. Miller-Idriss said. “And so I think it can make it harder for us to acknowledge and recognize how our democracy can be fragile, just like any other democracy in the world.”
The United States have been committing genocide and systematic racism pretty much all of its existence and before …….. now, if this is how a “religious” nation operates, then maybe it’s time for a change Stantis.
After reading the last couple days comments it seemed necessary to add every person here to our churches prayer list. Seems so many actively look for a way to turn their back on God without consideration of the reasons there are to seek God. The latter is harder, but with a greater potential for reward
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
I do not see “separation” included in this statement. I agree with what it says completely. However, I do not think I would have much of an argument if I said, "Our governments, to work effectively, predictably and honestly, should draw on the virtues instantiated by the Christian faith to set standards of conduct and provide legislative “guardrails.”
I think you are seeing a rejection of religion. That is not the same thing as a rejection of God or Spirituality. People are rejecting the corruption, perversion, and exclusion of organized religion in favor of the gentle acceptance of spirituality and of God.
How odd not to perceive lurking demons and spirits behind every tree or cloud. How very strange not to believe you’re under constant surveillance by the creator of all things. Like walking past a graveyard and realizing that all of its terrors are just dead people in boxes, quietly decomposing.
Lots of people will simply find another superstition to hang onto, like Newage, or Gopism. It’s so scary to live in a world devoid of invisible, intangible lurkers shooting nebulous rays at one another.
Of course organized religions are concerned. They are worried about their collection plates. Given their non profit status, they sure like to have earthly goods…
LookingGlass Premium Member over 3 years ago
Fomenting coups and overthrowing “unfriendly” governments is a religion to the U.S.A.???
Okie Dokie!!
nosirrom over 3 years ago
In America we have religious freedom. The freedom to worship or not as each of us choose and to live our lives according to our beliefs.
I just wish that other religions would embrace that precept and stop trying to get laws enacted that force everyone to live their lives by their beliefs.
LeftCoastKen Premium Member over 3 years ago
Europeans left Europe and came to America to escape religious persecution. And ever since, just about every American who came here or was or is descended from one who came here has religiously persecuted anyone who wasn’t a member of their own religion. And almost to a person, they’re unbelievably hypocritical about it. I fully expect to see the Salem witch trials to be reinstated any day now.
Sanspareil over 3 years ago
So when the US government gave out blankets full of disease to the native Americans, that was part of their religiosity??
Ignatz Premium Member over 3 years ago
It’s a secular nation with a lot of religious people. It always has been. England has an official religion. We got out of there.
Official religion is bad for religion.
Mixing Church and State poisons both the Church and the State.
William Robbins Premium Member over 3 years ago
I believe in God. I don’t believe in religion. Religion sounds like, gasp, Socialism. Or more like National Socialism; socialism if you’re in the accepted group, persecution if you’re not.
New York Times The Interpreter: The Rising ‘Day X’ Threat From the Far-Right — For QAnon it is ‘The Storm,’ White power groups have long promised a coming catastrophic race war. And in Germany and Austria, an imagined neo-Nazi putsch is heralded as ‘Day X’ — when the democratic order collapses and they take over. “In many ways we can see how January 6th was a kind of loosely formed coalition around this idea of accelerationism,” said Cynthia Miller-Idriss, the director of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, said of the attack on the United States Capitol Building last January. “I have thought a lot about the parallels with the Weimar Republic,” she said. “I think we have to consider the possibility that this was the beginning of something.” Anetta Kahane, a prominent Jewish activist in Germany, is intimately familiar with the risks that brings. Accelerationists, Ms. Kahane believes, want to trigger Day X, not merely wait for it to occur. “The Nazis are not patient, they don’t want to wait. If the revolution doesn’t start by itself, you have to help it along,” she said. “It’s an active strategy, not a passive one.”
“The United States is a country that is always like to think of itself as a beacon of democracy,” Dr. Miller-Idriss said. “And so I think it can make it harder for us to acknowledge and recognize how our democracy can be fragile, just like any other democracy in the world.”
MD Bear Premium Member over 3 years ago
Among the westernized democracies, the US is still one of the most religious nations in the world, according to this survey.
https://www.pewforum.org/2018/06/13/how-religious-commitment-varies-by-country-among-people-of-all-ages/
53% of Americans said religion was “very important” to them; most of western Europe ranged from 10% – 22% who said that.
Yes, religious affiliation is declining in America, but we’re still a very religious nation.
I’m not trying to make any comment on whether that’s good or bad, I’m just citing a poll.
ChristopherBacon over 3 years ago
Because God forbid you should be held accountable for the things you’ve said. Are you sure you’re not a Trump supporter Carmen?
Darsan54 Premium Member over 3 years ago
The United States have been committing genocide and systematic racism pretty much all of its existence and before …….. now, if this is how a “religious” nation operates, then maybe it’s time for a change Stantis.
RobinHood over 3 years ago
After reading the last couple days comments it seemed necessary to add every person here to our churches prayer list. Seems so many actively look for a way to turn their back on God without consideration of the reasons there are to seek God. The latter is harder, but with a greater potential for reward
Objective Turnip over 3 years ago
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof”
I do not see “separation” included in this statement. I agree with what it says completely. However, I do not think I would have much of an argument if I said, "Our governments, to work effectively, predictably and honestly, should draw on the virtues instantiated by the Christian faith to set standards of conduct and provide legislative “guardrails.”
Radish... over 3 years ago
More right wing stupidity.
Bruce1253 over 3 years ago
I think you are seeing a rejection of religion. That is not the same thing as a rejection of God or Spirituality. People are rejecting the corruption, perversion, and exclusion of organized religion in favor of the gentle acceptance of spirituality and of God.
Kip W over 3 years ago
How odd not to perceive lurking demons and spirits behind every tree or cloud. How very strange not to believe you’re under constant surveillance by the creator of all things. Like walking past a graveyard and realizing that all of its terrors are just dead people in boxes, quietly decomposing.
Lots of people will simply find another superstition to hang onto, like Newage, or Gopism. It’s so scary to live in a world devoid of invisible, intangible lurkers shooting nebulous rays at one another.
Bradley Walker over 3 years ago
“I can’t abide hypocrisy. Mind you, I’m always prepared to make an exception in my own case.” — Boot the Dog, Perishers
ferddo over 3 years ago
Hypocrites really hate it when you quote their own words back at them…
librarian4hire over 3 years ago
The European countries that have a state religion are more secular than the US. I believe there’s a relationship there.
Kip Williams over 3 years ago
“I just can’t quote you!”
mikendi over 3 years ago
Of course organized religions are concerned. They are worried about their collection plates. Given their non profit status, they sure like to have earthly goods…