You have a pathalogical liar and an egomaniac that, if he gets in again, will do his damndest to become your president for life. America, the banana republic to be.
Looking at the ‘fine print’ reminds me of the bills that get passed in Congress with last minute additions that nobody read before voting or reminds me I’ve got an annual eye exam to day at 2:45 PM . . . .
Of course, these ideas were developed in modern times by the USA’s own Edward Bernase, leader of the WWI Propaganda Office and developer of the ruling class’s downsizing of democracy called “managed consent.”
And the new mantra is “…the people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” This in one form or another has been attributed to numerous politicians: Boss Tweed, Stalin.
I would welcome a conservative party that could actually compete with the liberals without lying. That hasn’t happened in the entire time I have been politically aware, roughly 50 years. I don’t agree with a lot of liberal ideas- abortion tops the list, and would be interested in hearing the views of an HONEST conservative party. I have never had that option and once I understand that I am being lied to, even if the person lying seems to believe what he is saying—- actually even more so if he seems to actually believe it, because that’s nuts, so I have always voted Democratic. An honest option might be nice.
There are reliable reports that many Republicans have changed their party affiliation after Jan 6, going to the trouble of letting the local election officials know about it. Since there have to be quite a few people who had the same reaction, but didn’t bother to make it official in the county records, I would say the Republicans have to cut the MAGAts out of the party if they want to have a party left. Since they can’t attract any voters from the right—they are convinced the Republicans were going to back their insurrection and are pissed that they didn’t, the only hope they have is to develop a Republican party that will attract moderates. They can’t do that unless they seriously think about their positions and change them to what the people want, instead of following the MAGATs because their followers are louder than the actual voters.
Here are the six ‘buffoonish’ ways Trump tried to execute his coup: Former Ted Cruz staffer
It began, she noted, with his conspiracy theories about the election being stolen, which started even before any ballots were cast: “He and his team started questioning the legality of mail-in voting, especially as the practice was being more widely adopted because of COVID. That month, Attorney General Bill Barr told the New York Times that foreign governments might conspire to mail in fake ballots.”
The second part, wrote Carpenter, were the more than 60 failed lawsuits to overturn the election, most prominently the lawsuit out of Texas by state AG and “Lawyers for Trump” director Ken Paxton trying to have millions of legal votes thrown out. That occurred simultaneously with the third plan of fake federal investigations: “In an unsettling departure from Department of Justice precedent, Attorney General Bill Barr on November 9, 2020 gave federal prosecutors approval to investigate the president’s unfounded claims.”
The fourth part was the “Stop the Steal” messaging, which quickly inflamed Trump’s supporters: “Immediately after the election, protests demanding that election workers ‘Stop the Count’ materialized in Michigan as Trump supporters sought to discount mail-in ballots that took longer to count and largely favored Biden,” wrote Carpenter. “On November 14, 2020, thousands of Trump supporters rallied in Washington. The events descended into street violence that evening, leaving two officers injured.”
The fifth part was the push for Biden-backing states with GOP legislatures to adopt fake slates of electors backing Trump — complete with dozens of these fake electors signing on to fake election certificates. And all of this was supposed to advance as the sixth part unfolded: Trump pressuring state officials to invalidate ballots, as he did with Secretary Brad Raffensperger in Georgia.
‘Secret meetings’ before Capitol riot leaked as SCOTUS releases papers he wanted hidden
Former President Donald Trump held secret meetings in the run-up to the 6 January attack on the Capitol, according to his former press secretary.
Stephanie Grisham told the House select committee investigating the insurrection that the then-president met with people in ‘off-the-books’ rendezvous that only a small number of aides were made aware of, according to reports.
it’s the same reason the moolahs don’t want women and people to go to school they’ll lose their power if people get educated of course in the United States education doesn’t necessarily education doesn’t necessarily mean common sense
During the fall of Rome there was a plague resulting in a labor shortage, there was bad military leadership, Christianity mattered more than the government, there were multiple civil wars and infighting, decisions were created to benefit the rich more than the poor – hey, wait a minute!
Let’s face it: pretending that Traitor Trump wasn’t involved with the attempt to over-throw our democratic republic is pretty much the same as pretending that John Wilkes Booth was’nt involved in that little incident at the theatre that night…..
Some men are friends with the whole world in their hearts and there are others that hate themselves and spread their hatred around like butter on hot bread.
“I don’t know what word in the English language, I can’t find one, that applies to people who are willing to sacrifice the literal existence of organized human life so they can put a few more dollars into highly stuffed pockets; the world evil doesn’t even begin to approach it."
It is less clear than ever whether Trumpy himself “believes” that the ‘lection was in fact stolen. Some say it was a deliberate lie in the beginning but he came to believe it literally. That’s possible. Or he may have come to his position by a simple logical exercise (“the only way a hugely popular and successful person like himself could be defeated at the polls would be through fraud”). His conversation with the Sec’y of State in Georgia, in which he more or less ordered him to “find” 10,000 votes, makes the best sense if the Talking Yam was actually convinced they had to be there. In any case, it appears that many or most of the MAGAts really believe that there were the suitcases full of fake ballots imported from China or Venezuela or whatever, the voting machines were either rigged or tampered with by the Italian army, or whatever gross violation of Occam’s Razor they cling to. Since people actually in position to KNOW what happened (rather than repeating something someone’s cousin’s barber said), and firmly deny that there were irregularities, that is surely the simplest explanation, compared to the conspiratorial embroideries espoused by people who can’t think straight.
Personal favorite: those who believe (it seems) that when Trumpy runs again in 2024, JFK Jr will be his running mate. Or maybe Charlemagne, who’s been sitting in that cave all this time. . . .
The thing is, the only way to politically counter a Big Lie is to aggressively prosecute the people promulgating it. This is why the current Big Lie of election fraud continues to fester in the US, because Democrats are ok with voter suppression or else they’d aggressively pursue criminal charges against the January 6 attempted coup masterminds.
I see that the laughably stupid and contemptibly dishonest traitor-apologist Montana Swill is at it again. Your act was already old a long time ago, Swill. Now it’s just pathetic.
RAGs over 2 years ago
There are a few RWNJs here who also follow that program.
Concretionist over 2 years ago
The ONLY good thing about all this is that he’s bound to die before my great grandkids are adults. And that is not very good at all!
lopaka over 2 years ago
You have a pathalogical liar and an egomaniac that, if he gets in again, will do his damndest to become your president for life. America, the banana republic to be.
FreyjaRN Premium Member over 2 years ago
Barf.
Màiri over 2 years ago
If we want to continue living, some day soon we’re going to have to remember Poplicola’s Laws.
More Coffee Please! Premium Member over 2 years ago
Nail him and his whole sticking family.
The Love of Money is . . . over 2 years ago
Looking at the ‘fine print’ reminds me of the bills that get passed in Congress with last minute additions that nobody read before voting or reminds me I’ve got an annual eye exam to day at 2:45 PM . . . .
The Nodding Head over 2 years ago
Put aside the popular “go back in time and kill Hitler” fantasy. Go forward and indict The Malicious Miscreant and every one of its crime family.
Stan Raines Premium Member over 2 years ago
Of course, these ideas were developed in modern times by the USA’s own Edward Bernase, leader of the WWI Propaganda Office and developer of the ruling class’s downsizing of democracy called “managed consent.”
Masterskrain over 2 years ago
ABSOLUTELY ACCURATE!!! ( and scary as hell!)
mourdac Premium Member over 2 years ago
And the new mantra is “…the people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.” This in one form or another has been attributed to numerous politicians: Boss Tweed, Stalin.
Diane Lee Premium Member over 2 years ago
There are reliable reports that many Republicans have changed their party affiliation after Jan 6, going to the trouble of letting the local election officials know about it. Since there have to be quite a few people who had the same reaction, but didn’t bother to make it official in the county records, I would say the Republicans have to cut the MAGAts out of the party if they want to have a party left. Since they can’t attract any voters from the right—they are convinced the Republicans were going to back their insurrection and are pissed that they didn’t, the only hope they have is to develop a Republican party that will attract moderates. They can’t do that unless they seriously think about their positions and change them to what the people want, instead of following the MAGATs because their followers are louder than the actual voters.
Not the Smartest Man On the Planet -- Maybe Close Premium Member over 2 years ago
Trump’s version of Jiminy Cricket.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Here are the six ‘buffoonish’ ways Trump tried to execute his coup: Former Ted Cruz staffer
It began, she noted, with his conspiracy theories about the election being stolen, which started even before any ballots were cast: “He and his team started questioning the legality of mail-in voting, especially as the practice was being more widely adopted because of COVID. That month, Attorney General Bill Barr told the New York Times that foreign governments might conspire to mail in fake ballots.”
The second part, wrote Carpenter, were the more than 60 failed lawsuits to overturn the election, most prominently the lawsuit out of Texas by state AG and “Lawyers for Trump” director Ken Paxton trying to have millions of legal votes thrown out. That occurred simultaneously with the third plan of fake federal investigations: “In an unsettling departure from Department of Justice precedent, Attorney General Bill Barr on November 9, 2020 gave federal prosecutors approval to investigate the president’s unfounded claims.”
The fourth part was the “Stop the Steal” messaging, which quickly inflamed Trump’s supporters: “Immediately after the election, protests demanding that election workers ‘Stop the Count’ materialized in Michigan as Trump supporters sought to discount mail-in ballots that took longer to count and largely favored Biden,” wrote Carpenter. “On November 14, 2020, thousands of Trump supporters rallied in Washington. The events descended into street violence that evening, leaving two officers injured.”
The fifth part was the push for Biden-backing states with GOP legislatures to adopt fake slates of electors backing Trump — complete with dozens of these fake electors signing on to fake election certificates. And all of this was supposed to advance as the sixth part unfolded: Trump pressuring state officials to invalidate ballots, as he did with Secretary Brad Raffensperger in Georgia.
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-coup-2656437073/
stealth694 over 2 years ago
This is a rule ALL POLITICIANS follow.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
‘Secret meetings’ before Capitol riot leaked as SCOTUS releases papers he wanted hidden
Former President Donald Trump held secret meetings in the run-up to the 6 January attack on the Capitol, according to his former press secretary.
Stephanie Grisham told the House select committee investigating the insurrection that the then-president met with people in ‘off-the-books’ rendezvous that only a small number of aides were made aware of, according to reports.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-supreme-court-jan-6-biden-latest-b1997172.html
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Ray Epps to be quizzed by 6 January committee after wild conspiracy pushed by Tucker Carlson and Trump
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/ray-epps-jan-6-tucker-carlson-trump-b1996840.html
Trump falsely claims Biden was ‘reading’ answers at his news conference
President took questions from Fox News and Newsmax during nearly two-hour media session
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-trump-news-conference-b1996754.html
The longest news conference by a president in history.
Trump can’t even make one clear statement without diverging into some tyrannical rant.
rlaker22j over 2 years ago
it’s the same reason the moolahs don’t want women and people to go to school they’ll lose their power if people get educated of course in the United States education doesn’t necessarily education doesn’t necessarily mean common sense
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
During the fall of Rome there was a plague resulting in a labor shortage, there was bad military leadership, Christianity mattered more than the government, there were multiple civil wars and infighting, decisions were created to benefit the rich more than the poor – hey, wait a minute!
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
It is in our nature to endure patiently the decrees of fate, but not the ill will of others. Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Godfreydaniel over 2 years ago
Let’s face it: pretending that Traitor Trump wasn’t involved with the attempt to over-throw our democratic republic is pretty much the same as pretending that John Wilkes Booth was’nt involved in that little incident at the theatre that night…..
charliekane over 2 years ago
And why does anyone buy his crap?
Ignorance is bliss.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gL0xQHI0wo
And if you have time, search “LCC’s”.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Some men are friends with the whole world in their hearts and there are others that hate themselves and spread their hatred around like butter on hot bread.
John Steinbeck
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Aldous Huxley
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Be bad, but at least don’t be a liar, a deceiver! Leo Tolstory
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
The pleasures of the mighty are obtained by the tears of the poor.
Samuel Richardson
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
“I don’t know what word in the English language, I can’t find one, that applies to people who are willing to sacrifice the literal existence of organized human life so they can put a few more dollars into highly stuffed pockets; the world evil doesn’t even begin to approach it."
Noam Chomsky
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Bertrand Russel
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Silence the angry man with love. Silence the liar with truth. Buddha
AndrewSihler over 2 years ago
It is less clear than ever whether Trumpy himself “believes” that the ‘lection was in fact stolen. Some say it was a deliberate lie in the beginning but he came to believe it literally. That’s possible. Or he may have come to his position by a simple logical exercise (“the only way a hugely popular and successful person like himself could be defeated at the polls would be through fraud”). His conversation with the Sec’y of State in Georgia, in which he more or less ordered him to “find” 10,000 votes, makes the best sense if the Talking Yam was actually convinced they had to be there. In any case, it appears that many or most of the MAGAts really believe that there were the suitcases full of fake ballots imported from China or Venezuela or whatever, the voting machines were either rigged or tampered with by the Italian army, or whatever gross violation of Occam’s Razor they cling to. Since people actually in position to KNOW what happened (rather than repeating something someone’s cousin’s barber said), and firmly deny that there were irregularities, that is surely the simplest explanation, compared to the conspiratorial embroideries espoused by people who can’t think straight.
Personal favorite: those who believe (it seems) that when Trumpy runs again in 2024, JFK Jr will be his running mate. Or maybe Charlemagne, who’s been sitting in that cave all this time. . . .
nyg16 over 2 years ago
cult followers will believe their dear leader to the bitter end – end of democracy that is
moondog42 Premium Member over 2 years ago
The thing is, the only way to politically counter a Big Lie is to aggressively prosecute the people promulgating it. This is why the current Big Lie of election fraud continues to fester in the US, because Democrats are ok with voter suppression or else they’d aggressively pursue criminal charges against the January 6 attempted coup masterminds.
Godfreydaniel over 2 years ago
I see that the laughably stupid and contemptibly dishonest traitor-apologist Montana Swill is at it again. Your act was already old a long time ago, Swill. Now it’s just pathetic.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
Assertion: Trump had nothing to do with the Capitol riots.
Reality: Several prominent republicans and his family called on Trump to quell the riot.
Rich Douglas over 2 years ago
JoJo Rabbit. Has Hitler as an imaginary friend and acts like a 10-year-old.
Radish the wordsmith over 2 years ago
One idiot is one idiot. Two idiots are two idiots. Ten thousand idiots are a political party. Franz Kafka