I can’t believe that he would kill off Spock. Hopefully it’s like then end of nearly every kids movie….the moment of suspense before the hero wakes up.
Don’t die Spock…………I know how Dean feels, afew weeks ago I had to put my dog Sam to sleep. Weeks ago but feels like 2 minutes.
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Q: In panel1,did Dean KISS Heart??????
She looks worried for Spock as well.
Much as I love this strip and cats, I protest that quotation. Who was that? Marx? Lenin? Hitler? Come to think of it, it was probably Gene Roddenberry, who had a definite Leftist side to him.
pschearer, what makes the quote significant is that it is the ONE doing the sacrifice for the MANY who says it. (OK, Dean is SAYING it here, but he’s quoting Spock.)
Spock’s first formulation (in Wrath of Khan, which was NOT scripted by Roddenberry) is actually along the lines of “Logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” to which is added “…or the one.” The unspoken premise which is required to make this truly logical is “Given equality of individual need…”. If that is the case, it IS mathematically, logically sound. If you have 440 blameless crewmen whose lives can be saved through the loss of one equally blameless individual, it IS logical to choose the loss of the one. It would perhaps not appear that way to the one who dies, but sometimes these decisions have to be made.
If you don’t like that quote, how about this one: “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”
fritzoid: “Logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”?
This condenses into one statement some of the worst errors in philosophy since Plato. Just to pick one, it is a statement of altruist ethics by which satisfying alleged needs is elevated to a moral imperative requiring the sacrifice of some people to others. I agree with Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism, which for the first time in history offers an non-sacrificial ethics. If you want to learn more, you can go to the website of the Ayn Rand Institute www.aynrand.org.
Weighing in too late on the above conversation - I used to be fascinated with Ayn Rand and her philosophy and held onto it for a while. But it was one of a lot of ideas I was taken with for a while, and I’ve since concluded that to embrace anyone’s ideas too wholly is dangerous. Better to take in all information and decide for oneself what to believe and how to live. In the end that’s all we can be responsible for.
My understanding of Ayn Rand’s Objectivism is that it convinces human beings to act like wolves by telling them they’re sheepdogs.
Where it falls down for me is that the class of people who believe themselves to be “exceptional” far outnumbers the class of people who ARE “exceptional”, and in fact the overlap between the two groups is probably tiny.
Of course, my sole basis for this understanding is a viewing of “The Fountainhead”, which was claptrap from start to finish. Since Rand wrote the screenplay herself, I doubt it was a gross misrepresentation of her beliefs.
i_am_the_jam about 15 years ago
A moment of silence for the brave Spock…
Aurion about 15 years ago
Like we don’t already know Spock’s signed on for the sequel where they bring him back to life through a convoluted but somehow plausible plot device.
… Does that make the rat’s name Khan?
Edcole1961 about 15 years ago
Spock has been, and will always be, Dean’s friend.
lewisbower about 15 years ago
Spock can fight 8 more rats
wndrwrthg about 15 years ago
Le Morte d’Spock? Highly illogical.
Lyons Group, Inc. about 15 years ago
Oh no, say it isn’t so!
KingRat about 15 years ago
it’s a setup for a Liõ crossover.
catqueen about 15 years ago
Spock is down but not out.
donhef about 15 years ago
“Out of all Dean’s friends, he was the most……Human……..” it’s always sad to lose a friend, even a furry one……..RIP Spock.
dianecliff about 15 years ago
I can’t believe that he would kill off Spock. Hopefully it’s like then end of nearly every kids movie….the moment of suspense before the hero wakes up.
maesie about 15 years ago
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :(
TheDOCTOR about 15 years ago
Don’t die Spock…………I know how Dean feels, afew weeks ago I had to put my dog Sam to sleep. Weeks ago but feels like 2 minutes. ——————————————————————————– Q: In panel1,did Dean KISS Heart?????? She looks worried for Spock as well.
KenyarJad about 15 years ago
Theyre going chronologically backwards… first The Search for Spock, now The Rat of Khan… speaking of which…
KHAAAAAAAAANNNNN!
pschearer Premium Member about 15 years ago
Much as I love this strip and cats, I protest that quotation. Who was that? Marx? Lenin? Hitler? Come to think of it, it was probably Gene Roddenberry, who had a definite Leftist side to him.
Trisha_Evenstar about 15 years ago
ohhhh noooooo, this made me cry sniff
ninmas about 15 years ago
i doubt spock’ll die, he’s probably injured. comics don’t kill pets off- except FBFW
fritzoid Premium Member about 15 years ago
pschearer, what makes the quote significant is that it is the ONE doing the sacrifice for the MANY who says it. (OK, Dean is SAYING it here, but he’s quoting Spock.)
Spock’s first formulation (in Wrath of Khan, which was NOT scripted by Roddenberry) is actually along the lines of “Logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few” to which is added “…or the one.” The unspoken premise which is required to make this truly logical is “Given equality of individual need…”. If that is the case, it IS mathematically, logically sound. If you have 440 blameless crewmen whose lives can be saved through the loss of one equally blameless individual, it IS logical to choose the loss of the one. It would perhaps not appear that way to the one who dies, but sometimes these decisions have to be made.
If you don’t like that quote, how about this one: “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.”
aedra6 about 15 years ago
Comic strips are not supposed to be sad!!!!
Templo S.U.D. about 15 years ago
Aren’t we forgetting something important here? Like –oh, I don’t know– finding out WHY Spock ran off.
NiteKat about 15 years ago
Kill Spock, I quit reading this strip……………
fritzoid Premium Member about 15 years ago
“Comic strips are not supposed to be sad!!!!”
If they were, we would call them “sad strips.”
Hbeschizza about 15 years ago
bleeep you for making me cry Mark. bleeep you! sniff sniff
sensrule92 about 15 years ago
NOOOO!!! NOT SPOCK!!!!
Skylark about 15 years ago
Shades of Farley! sigh and boo hoo….:( :(
Smiley Rmom about 15 years ago
Doesn’t Spock have 8 more lives?
pschearer Premium Member about 15 years ago
fritzoid: “Logic dictates that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few”?
This condenses into one statement some of the worst errors in philosophy since Plato. Just to pick one, it is a statement of altruist ethics by which satisfying alleged needs is elevated to a moral imperative requiring the sacrifice of some people to others. I agree with Ayn Rand’s philosophy of Objectivism, which for the first time in history offers an non-sacrificial ethics. If you want to learn more, you can go to the website of the Ayn Rand Institute www.aynrand.org.
fritzoid Premium Member about 15 years ago
I know enough of Ayn Rand to be appalled.
kfaatz925 about 15 years ago
Weighing in too late on the above conversation - I used to be fascinated with Ayn Rand and her philosophy and held onto it for a while. But it was one of a lot of ideas I was taken with for a while, and I’ve since concluded that to embrace anyone’s ideas too wholly is dangerous. Better to take in all information and decide for oneself what to believe and how to live. In the end that’s all we can be responsible for.
fritzoid Premium Member about 15 years ago
My understanding of Ayn Rand’s Objectivism is that it convinces human beings to act like wolves by telling them they’re sheepdogs.
Where it falls down for me is that the class of people who believe themselves to be “exceptional” far outnumbers the class of people who ARE “exceptional”, and in fact the overlap between the two groups is probably tiny.
Of course, my sole basis for this understanding is a viewing of “The Fountainhead”, which was claptrap from start to finish. Since Rand wrote the screenplay herself, I doubt it was a gross misrepresentation of her beliefs.
Decepticomic over 3 years ago
He’s fine.