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Castfish Stevens? Tea for the Tillerman? Something reminds me of a father always putting off his sonâs affection and desire for attention. Catfish⊠is that itâŠuug.
Pacejv : youâre thinking of âCatâs in the Cradleâ by Harry Chapin. Not a fair comparison to Calvinâs dad, who seems to do a very good job given the difficulty of dealing with ⊠well, with Calvin.
Castfish Stevens? Tea for the Tillerman? Something reminds me of a father always putting off his sonâs affection and desire for attention.
Youâre probably thinking of Cat Stevensâ âFather and Sonâ from âTea for the Tillermanâ. A moving generational song, one of my favorites (that could be due to my blonde friend who played her guitar and sang it so nicely).
Itâs definitely because of the mess he made yesterday. Heâs waiting for mom to come home and kill him so he thought heâd get one more story out of dad before he dies.
It was Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin, Cat Stevens with Tea and the Tillerman and it was Catfish Hunter, the pitcher with the Oakland Aâs. The 70âs were a confusing timeâŠ..
yes, but then catfish hunter signed with the yankees and got paid a lot of money and then he ignored his kid âŠ..
and cat stevens gave up music and became a muslim and when the aytollah said that salman rushdie should die for writing a book he disargreed with, cat said that if thats what the aytollah said then rushdie SHOULD be killed.
so cat was so busy with that stuff he ignored HIS kid and thenâŠ..
⊠Nice try Dad give in and find away to keep working! Forgo the âgoodâ story for a good story about how to deal with your kids because someday youâll be on the receiving end of this same phone-call Calvin.
Sidebar: Too bad weâll never get to see those days because in our world Calvin will forever be that little boy with his stuffed tiger. Hmm? I wonder how a new strip titled Payân for your Raiseân would fairâŠ
sigh In my day, NO child would ever have been allowed to call his/her parent at work just because he or she was bored and wanted some attention. I, for example, tried that stunt exactly once, when I was around Calvinâs age, and I caught hell from my mother for bothering my father at work!
Unfortunately, Calvin just doesnât get that the universe does not revolve around him, and that it does not exist solely for the purpose of entertaining and amusing him. In my opinion, rather than letting Calvin guilt him into giving him his way, Dad should have made it clear that, unless itâs a life-or-death emergency, phone calls to Dadâs office during working hours are forbidden â and then hung up immediately. Perhaps then Calvin would get the message that other people have needs and obligations, too â and that they donât always necessarily have anything to do with him.
This is just about the best Dad ever bothered to do by Calvin.
So many of you still fail to grasp even the basic concept of Calvin and Hobbes. You are so hopelessly old and lost, like the irrelevant diatribe above.
If you still donât see that you should root for Calvin, you should really find another comic strip, or better yet, switch to editorials, or staring at the wall.
Calvin is 100% perfect. He is an introvert, and is highly intelligent, and highly imaginative. He is the hero of the story. Everyone else is an antagonist. Heâs 6, not 30. He will always only be 6. Nothing about him needs to be fixed. Those suggesting it donât know this strip at all. You would do well to have a Calvin of your own. Youâd know he would grow up pretty well off, unlike people who have to psycho analyze a cartoon child, instead of think like one, and who make anti-protagonist suggestions to a 24 year old comic strip that had a perfect run, and is next to only Peanuts in popularity.
Mum its this way Dad was telling me a boring story so I started a ball game with Hobbes.
We got carried away in the heat of the second inning
Hobbes is always getting me in trouble
I know thereâs only about 150 or so people that use the internet but PLEASE donât tell my youâre the same âlegaleagleâ douc*e from ksl.com? That would be a horrible coincidence.
That aside, mrslukeskywalker has the whole situation exactly right. Calvin is definitely (as the term said) the âheroâ of the story. Calvinâs alter-ego Spaceman Spiff is a more literal embodiment.
An additional point being thoughâŠCalvinâs parents are dealing imperfectlyâŠwith a (to quote again) âperfectâ child. It can be argued that ALL children are perfect and this state of being is only modified by their environment projecting imperfections on them (us).
Long story shortâŠCalvin is âanyâ child and to give his parents creditâŠthey seem to perform above average in, if not nurturing, then at least loving him.
True story: When I was 10 I discovered that stomach cramps could be used as an excuse for my parents to allow me to miss school. I faked the âproblemâ once too often, however, and they whisked me off to see our family doctor. He asked a few questions and diagnosed my condition as appendicitis. The appendix, he explained was a useless body part but if it ruptured could present a serious priplem. Treatment? Have an appendectomy, âtout de suite.â So off they took me to the hospital and out came the offending body part. Afterward the doctor told my parents that it showed no sign of inflamation, but it was âprobably good to have it out, since it might be a problem sometime in years to come!â
There was a silver lining, however. Whlie recuperating at home, I begged my dad to read to me, something that I really enjoyed. He agreed on condition that he could choose what to read. I agreed, and he came back with a copy of Jules Verneâs âLes Miserablesâ [in two volumes, yet!] He read to me each day for a week or so, until I was ready to go back to school, then said that if I wanted to know how it all came out I could read the rest of the book myself!
I was so interested by that time, that I finished it and in doing so realized what an incredibly good book it was. Iâve read the entire book several times since then and now consider it the best novel ever written! The experience also taught me a valuable lesson about the pitfalls of telling lies. Maybe thereâs hope for Calvin, yet.
Iâm sorry, but I believe that âLes Miserablesâ was written by âVictor Hugoâ, not âJules Verneâ.
Perhaps you were thinking of â20,000 Leagues Under The Seaâ. (Pitfalls)
Or, you were just checking to see if any one was awake.
BTW There is no hope for Calvin, otherwise the strip would have failed many years ago.
I have a little Calvin at home and I totally empathize with his parents. A little Calvin drains you completely. You try your best to keep patient but these children are on from daylight to night-time without a break. It is amusing that Calvin is unconventional, combative, demanding and imaginative. I chuckle at many of these cartoons! I love my daughter very much but I also wish for quiet days without struggles, non-stop talking, complaining that everything is so boring (school and mealtimes). Sheâs constantly in her imagination. I believe Iâm a good mother but I get overwhelmed at times.
My parents always told me real stories about themselves and our family. They had enough material there to never have to make anything up. I recently received the picture album my Mom had that belonged to her mother. I saw alot of pictures that brought my grandparents stories to life again. They had the first car in town and would pick up their family and anyone else that could fit in and hang on to the running board on their way to church. My great grandmother and great grandfather had 16 children and brought them up in the âGreat Depressionâ. They literally lived off the land and my grandmother said their house smelled wonderful. They canned all their fruits and vegetables which they stored in the root cellar. They smoked their own meats too. My grandmotherâs favorite smell though was the smell of the 25 loaves of freshly baked bread they made everyday. They were all taught to make their own clothes. Every child had their assigned tasks to help out with the running of the household, farmland, and animals. My grandmother was trained in helping to deliver babies and would stay on with the families to assist with the baby and to help with the cooking and cleaning until the mother was strong enough to take over again. She had her own money as she says and she was expected and happy to contribute to the running of her parents household. To my delight growing up there was always a relative staying with my grandparents so there was never a shortage of stories.
âThe patent infringement walked on down the hall ⊠And he came to a door âŠ. âFather, I want to âŠâ â
I liked that comment on wanting to go back 25 years to read a story to your girls.
My toddlers are coming back home to daddy after being away for 5months for the birth of their newest sibling.
My world is going to turn upside down, and inside out.
Iâll try to remember that in 25 yrs Iâll want to come back here, but ONLY for an hour!
Cognizant, you have a well-deserved name. Yes, Victor Hugo wrote âLes Miserableâ and not Jules Verne. Donât know where my mind was when I made that goof. Verne wrote some good adventure and SF stories, but theyâre not in a class with Les Miserable.
Cognizant, your name is very appropriate. Youâre absolutely correct, âLes Miserableâ was indeed written by Victor Hugo. My brain, what there is of it, must have gone to sleep when I was typing that last post. Jules Verne wrote some very good adventure-fantasy stories, but none of them come close to âLes Miserable.â
Bandz, the same thing could happen to anyone, especially to those who read a lot.
I too believe âLes Miserablesâ is in a class by itself, and youâre right, Jules Verne did write some very good stuff, and they can all be read over & over with much enjoyment. (Maybe every couple years).
Iâm sorry if I came off a little too critical before. :)
margueritem about 15 years ago
I dunno, sounds pretty good to meâŠ
kreole about 15 years ago
I want to hear more about the evil patent infringement in Fig. 2.
rentier about 15 years ago
I donât have time to tell you a story now!
Pacejv about 15 years ago
Castfish Stevens? Tea for the Tillerman? Something reminds me of a father always putting off his sonâs affection and desire for attention. Catfish⊠is that itâŠuug.
rayannina about 15 years ago
Pacejv : youâre thinking of âCatâs in the Cradleâ by Harry Chapin. Not a fair comparison to Calvinâs dad, who seems to do a very good job given the difficulty of dealing with ⊠well, with Calvin.
margueritem about 15 years ago
Pacejv, âmorning! Itâs Cat Stevens. Youâre thinking of âCatâs in the Cradleâ by Harry Chapin.
carmy about 15 years ago
Wait Calvin, Dadâs about to get to the good part now.
sjoujke about 15 years ago
Well, I think we can guess what Calvinâs going to be when he grows upâŠa professional blackmailer.
yyyguy about 15 years ago
didnât Tim âthe Tool Manâ Taylor do a version of that story once?
Ivy0730Lcsq about 15 years ago
O(â©_â©)Oćć~
TheSoundDefense about 15 years ago
Fun fact: Bill Watterson made Calvinâs father a patent lawyer, not wanting him to have a generic white-collar job.
Pacejv about 15 years ago
Rayannina and MargâŠThank you,so much,âŠdriving me crazy.I am going through old 33âs huntingâŠI have records of bothâŠtonight I can sleep.
Yukoner about 15 years ago
I think Calvin should stick to the story he made up.
GROG Premium Member about 15 years ago
yyyguy I think it was Dick Louden. Tim Taylor canât write anything but blank pages.
Rakkav about 15 years ago
I agree, I always thought Dad was telling a pretty good story. (âThe evil patent infringement.â Love it!)
jrbj about 15 years ago
Well, now we know Calvin has a typical Dad and he really sucks. Been there, gone through that. Off you Dad.
rentier about 15 years ago
I want a good story!
cats32 about 15 years ago
hit caliven with phone!!! caliven:wa wa WA!!!!!
Dkram about 15 years ago
This reminds of a MASH episode, where the orphans spend a night at the 4077, Colonel Potter reads a little boy to sleep with an army manual.
MASH is a favorite of mine.
\\//_
Miss.Fit about 15 years ago
âgoodâ story.. why donât you give your dad some specifications CalvinâŠ
Shades78 about 15 years ago
For Pacejv
Castfish Stevens? Tea for the Tillerman? Something reminds me of a father always putting off his sonâs affection and desire for attention.
Youâre probably thinking of Cat Stevensâ âFather and Sonâ from âTea for the Tillermanâ. A moving generational song, one of my favorites (that could be due to my blonde friend who played her guitar and sang it so nicely).
Ursula A Kehoe Premium Member about 15 years ago
is Calvin trying to prepare his dad for the destruction which awaits at home from yesterdayâs strip?
11Wilderness11 about 15 years ago
Pacejv:
You are definitely thinking of Harry Chapinâs âCatâs in the Cradle.â
Chapin wrote a lot of unbelievably depressing songs and that one was the bane of every dadâs existence for a while.
notinksanymore about 15 years ago
My property professor tells us stories about âbuyer Aâ âbuyer Bâ and the âevil sellerâ Evil seller always gets away with it.
eqo about 15 years ago
thatâs what i was thinking musmo, was getting ready to phrase it when i read yours ya beat me
i remember a strip where cal was talking to dad and he was too bussy so cal hung up âŠthen the strip whows the living room flooding.
alondra about 15 years ago
Itâs definitely because of the mess he made yesterday. Heâs waiting for mom to come home and kill him so he thought heâd get one more story out of dad before he dies.
RavennaAl about 15 years ago
It was Cats in the Cradle by Harry Chapin, Cat Stevens with Tea and the Tillerman and it was Catfish Hunter, the pitcher with the Oakland Aâs. The 70âs were a confusing timeâŠ..
Nighthawks Premium Member about 15 years ago
yes, but then catfish hunter signed with the yankees and got paid a lot of money and then he ignored his kid âŠ.. and cat stevens gave up music and became a muslim and when the aytollah said that salman rushdie should die for writing a book he disargreed with, cat said that if thats what the aytollah said then rushdie SHOULD be killed. so cat was so busy with that stuff he ignored HIS kid and thenâŠ..
slick44 about 15 years ago
Dad,I need my quality time with you.Well,either that or ten bucks.
Trainwreck_1 about 15 years ago
⊠Nice try Dad give in and find away to keep working! Forgo the âgoodâ story for a good story about how to deal with your kids because someday youâll be on the receiving end of this same phone-call Calvin.
Sidebar: Too bad weâll never get to see those days because in our world Calvin will forever be that little boy with his stuffed tiger. Hmm? I wonder how a new strip titled Payân for your Raiseân would fairâŠ
cleokaya about 15 years ago
If there is any one child that doesnât need a story, it is Calvin. With his imagination he, as an adult, is probably a famous author of fiction.
ColoradoRider about 15 years ago
Or a folk singer who becomes a one-hit wonder⊠and weâve come full circle.
lazygrazer about 15 years ago
The chilling story ends when the Cotter Pin (fig.8) pierces the Winged Spacer Nut (fig.9) with a resoundingâŠ..CLICK!
Puddleglum2 about 15 years ago
Calvin wants a GOOD story, not an EVIL patent infringement story. Isnât it patently obvious?
IndyMan about 15 years ago
Iâm just wondering how and why Calvin is still alive after yesterdayâs episode in the living room?
The Duke 1 about 15 years ago
Whatâs really weird is I just sold 10 hydraulic pumps last week!!!
legaleagle48 about 15 years ago
sigh In my day, NO child would ever have been allowed to call his/her parent at work just because he or she was bored and wanted some attention. I, for example, tried that stunt exactly once, when I was around Calvinâs age, and I caught hell from my mother for bothering my father at work!
Unfortunately, Calvin just doesnât get that the universe does not revolve around him, and that it does not exist solely for the purpose of entertaining and amusing him. In my opinion, rather than letting Calvin guilt him into giving him his way, Dad should have made it clear that, unless itâs a life-or-death emergency, phone calls to Dadâs office during working hours are forbidden â and then hung up immediately. Perhaps then Calvin would get the message that other people have needs and obligations, too â and that they donât always necessarily have anything to do with him.
mrslukeskywalker about 15 years ago
This is just about the best Dad ever bothered to do by Calvin.
So many of you still fail to grasp even the basic concept of Calvin and Hobbes. You are so hopelessly old and lost, like the irrelevant diatribe above.
If you still donât see that you should root for Calvin, you should really find another comic strip, or better yet, switch to editorials, or staring at the wall.
Calvin is 100% perfect. He is an introvert, and is highly intelligent, and highly imaginative. He is the hero of the story. Everyone else is an antagonist. Heâs 6, not 30. He will always only be 6. Nothing about him needs to be fixed. Those suggesting it donât know this strip at all. You would do well to have a Calvin of your own. Youâd know he would grow up pretty well off, unlike people who have to psycho analyze a cartoon child, instead of think like one, and who make anti-protagonist suggestions to a 24 year old comic strip that had a perfect run, and is next to only Peanuts in popularity.
ratlum about 15 years ago
Mum its this way Dad was telling me a boring story so I started a ball game with Hobbes. We got carried away in the heat of the second inning Hobbes is always getting me in trouble
SassyLuckyChance about 15 years ago
@legaleagle48-
I know thereâs only about 150 or so people that use the internet but PLEASE donât tell my youâre the same âlegaleagleâ douc*e from ksl.com? That would be a horrible coincidence.
That aside, mrslukeskywalker has the whole situation exactly right. Calvin is definitely (as the term said) the âheroâ of the story. Calvinâs alter-ego Spaceman Spiff is a more literal embodiment.
An additional point being thoughâŠCalvinâs parents are dealing imperfectlyâŠwith a (to quote again) âperfectâ child. It can be argued that ALL children are perfect and this state of being is only modified by their environment projecting imperfections on them (us).
Long story shortâŠCalvin is âanyâ child and to give his parents creditâŠthey seem to perform above average in, if not nurturing, then at least loving him.
yyyguy about 15 years ago
dkram: thank you for refreshing my memory. the MASH episode was the one i had in mind.
ibholyroller about 15 years ago
I canât believe people take their comics so seriously. Calvin is supposed to make us laugh. We all should have a Hobbes to tell our troubles to.
artybee about 15 years ago
I would love to be able to go back 25 years into the past for just one hour so I could read my girls a story again.
bandz about 15 years ago
True story: When I was 10 I discovered that stomach cramps could be used as an excuse for my parents to allow me to miss school. I faked the âproblemâ once too often, however, and they whisked me off to see our family doctor. He asked a few questions and diagnosed my condition as appendicitis. The appendix, he explained was a useless body part but if it ruptured could present a serious priplem. Treatment? Have an appendectomy, âtout de suite.â So off they took me to the hospital and out came the offending body part. Afterward the doctor told my parents that it showed no sign of inflamation, but it was âprobably good to have it out, since it might be a problem sometime in years to come!â
There was a silver lining, however. Whlie recuperating at home, I begged my dad to read to me, something that I really enjoyed. He agreed on condition that he could choose what to read. I agreed, and he came back with a copy of Jules Verneâs âLes Miserablesâ [in two volumes, yet!] He read to me each day for a week or so, until I was ready to go back to school, then said that if I wanted to know how it all came out I could read the rest of the book myself!
I was so interested by that time, that I finished it and in doing so realized what an incredibly good book it was. Iâve read the entire book several times since then and now consider it the best novel ever written! The experience also taught me a valuable lesson about the pitfalls of telling lies. Maybe thereâs hope for Calvin, yet.
jbmetalmonster about 15 years ago
youâll never get a good story out of him
COGNIZANT about 15 years ago
Iâm sorry, but I believe that âLes Miserablesâ was written by âVictor Hugoâ, not âJules Verneâ. Perhaps you were thinking of â20,000 Leagues Under The Seaâ. (Pitfalls)
Or, you were just checking to see if any one was awake.
BTW There is no hope for Calvin, otherwise the strip would have failed many years ago.
BigHug about 15 years ago
I have a little Calvin at home and I totally empathize with his parents. A little Calvin drains you completely. You try your best to keep patient but these children are on from daylight to night-time without a break. It is amusing that Calvin is unconventional, combative, demanding and imaginative. I chuckle at many of these cartoons! I love my daughter very much but I also wish for quiet days without struggles, non-stop talking, complaining that everything is so boring (school and mealtimes). Sheâs constantly in her imagination. I believe Iâm a good mother but I get overwhelmed at times.
Celtor about 15 years ago
All children act like Calvin -sometimes-âŠthatâs what made Calvin so universally popular; he speaks to that inner 6 year old in us all.
Dkram about 15 years ago
yyyguy: Glad I could help.
\//_
Dino-1 about 15 years ago
My parents always told me real stories about themselves and our family. They had enough material there to never have to make anything up. I recently received the picture album my Mom had that belonged to her mother. I saw alot of pictures that brought my grandparents stories to life again. They had the first car in town and would pick up their family and anyone else that could fit in and hang on to the running board on their way to church. My great grandmother and great grandfather had 16 children and brought them up in the âGreat Depressionâ. They literally lived off the land and my grandmother said their house smelled wonderful. They canned all their fruits and vegetables which they stored in the root cellar. They smoked their own meats too. My grandmotherâs favorite smell though was the smell of the 25 loaves of freshly baked bread they made everyday. They were all taught to make their own clothes. Every child had their assigned tasks to help out with the running of the household, farmland, and animals. My grandmother was trained in helping to deliver babies and would stay on with the families to assist with the baby and to help with the cooking and cleaning until the mother was strong enough to take over again. She had her own money as she says and she was expected and happy to contribute to the running of her parents household. To my delight growing up there was always a relative staying with my grandparents so there was never a shortage of stories.
senseilance about 15 years ago
âThe patent infringement walked on down the hall ⊠And he came to a door âŠ. âFather, I want to âŠâ â
I liked that comment on wanting to go back 25 years to read a story to your girls. My toddlers are coming back home to daddy after being away for 5months for the birth of their newest sibling. My world is going to turn upside down, and inside out. Iâll try to remember that in 25 yrs Iâll want to come back here, but ONLY for an hour!
Captain_Commando about 15 years ago
What six-year-old wouldnât want a story about patents?
Pacejv about 15 years ago
Thanks everyone. This episode brought a lot of people to pour out feelings.
PurpleBandit3000 about 15 years ago
i want to hear that story
bandz about 15 years ago
Cognizant, you have a well-deserved name. Yes, Victor Hugo wrote âLes Miserableâ and not Jules Verne. Donât know where my mind was when I made that goof. Verne wrote some good adventure and SF stories, but theyâre not in a class with Les Miserable.
COWBOY7 about 15 years ago
Youâve got him on the run again, Calvin!
bandz about 15 years ago
Cognizant, your name is very appropriate. Youâre absolutely correct, âLes Miserableâ was indeed written by Victor Hugo. My brain, what there is of it, must have gone to sleep when I was typing that last post. Jules Verne wrote some very good adventure-fantasy stories, but none of them come close to âLes Miserable.â
COGNIZANT about 15 years ago
Bandz, the same thing could happen to anyone, especially to those who read a lot. I too believe âLes Miserablesâ is in a class by itself, and youâre right, Jules Verne did write some very good stuff, and they can all be read over & over with much enjoyment. (Maybe every couple years).
Iâm sorry if I came off a little too critical before. :)
pintcape about 15 years ago
pretty smart dad,taking care of two problems at once.
Me_Again about 15 years ago
My parents tell pathetic stories like this, only even MORE boring.
wowzo almost 13 years ago
Ummmmm whatâs a patent infrigment and why is it evil