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Pestilence is the result of free will? Earthquakes and hurricanes are the result of free will? If the only times anybody suffered misfortune was when they had acted badly, then I would be inclined to believe that thereâs a link between behavior and circumstances, such as Karma or Cosmic Justice or God.
âWhy do the righteous suffer and the wicked prosper?â If God is meting out worldy well-being in order to influence Manâs exercise of Free Will, Heâs going about it bass-ackwards.
And oh yeah, donât try to weasel out of the question by saying âItâs all a test, so that only those strongest in faith will resist the temptation of worldly prosperity and focus on eternal rewards.â Thatâs a weak rationalization.
If there were a God who actually had humanityâs interests at heart, then righteous action would lead to earthly happiness AS WELL as eternal bliss.
God: âIâm going to allow Free Will, and Iâm going to arrange events so that 90% of all the souls will be damned. Anyone who is stupid enough to fall for my con game doesnât deserve salvation.â
Iâm an atheist primarily because nobody has ever put forward a God who was worthy of being believed inâŠ
People peopleâŠthe answer to the question âwhyâ is so simple when I was growing up the question was answered in one simple phrase âBecause I say soâ . Now as for deseases etc. because my life would be so boring if I werenât taking so many drugs.
Fritzoid - the problem is people keep insisting that God has the same motivations, needs and desires as people do. When the truth is we canât figure out Godâs plan any more than the fish in my tank can figure out what Iâm doing, sitting here in front of my computer. We just donât have the same proper frame of reference. So when weâre unable to figure God out we just dumb him down and give him human traits. We make a mean, vindictive liar out of God, a god who canât be trusted. Instead of just stepping back, accepting what happens and dealing with life as best we can, on our own. There is a mystery and beauty to the universe that only God can be aware of. We just get to peep out at it from the inside of our bowls.
Absolutely right, vasgar1! And the reason that God allows bad things to happen for now is because of what happened in the garden of Eden. There, Satan challenged Godâs right to rule mankind by telling Eve that they could be like God and decide for themselves what was good and bad, and she and Adam went along with that.
Now God could have destroyed these rebels right then and there, but that wouldnât have answered that challenge to his sovereignty , so he decided to let mankind rule themselves for a while to prove that they couldnât do a better job than Him, and weâve done a pretty good job of proving God right.
There will come a time, though, when God will put an end to this experiment and undo all the damage that mankind had done to the earth and themselves, and you donât want to be on the wrong side of the issue by saying things like âthere is no god, we can do things by ourselvesâ.
McGehee over 15 years ago
Winslowâs the one asking the right question here.
wndrwrthg over 15 years ago
Why is there disease and pestilence and war, oh, thatâs right, there is no god.
strodgers over 15 years ago
âwndrwrthgGenius said,
Why is there disease and pestilence and war, oh, thatâs right, there is no god.â
Yes there is, heâs just waiting for us to get rid of ourselves to begin again. Weâre the test run.
McGehee over 15 years ago
All those things happen so weak-minded people can tell themselves thereâs no god because all those things happen. Look up âfree will.â
fritzoid Premium Member over 15 years ago
Pestilence is the result of free will? Earthquakes and hurricanes are the result of free will? If the only times anybody suffered misfortune was when they had acted badly, then I would be inclined to believe that thereâs a link between behavior and circumstances, such as Karma or Cosmic Justice or God.
âWhy do the righteous suffer and the wicked prosper?â If God is meting out worldy well-being in order to influence Manâs exercise of Free Will, Heâs going about it bass-ackwards.
And oh yeah, donât try to weasel out of the question by saying âItâs all a test, so that only those strongest in faith will resist the temptation of worldly prosperity and focus on eternal rewards.â Thatâs a weak rationalization.
If there were a God who actually had humanityâs interests at heart, then righteous action would lead to earthly happiness AS WELL as eternal bliss.
God: âIâm going to allow Free Will, and Iâm going to arrange events so that 90% of all the souls will be damned. Anyone who is stupid enough to fall for my con game doesnât deserve salvation.â
Iâm an atheist primarily because nobody has ever put forward a God who was worthy of being believed inâŠ
caddy.1957 over 15 years ago
People peopleâŠthe answer to the question âwhyâ is so simple when I was growing up the question was answered in one simple phrase âBecause I say soâ . Now as for deseases etc. because my life would be so boring if I werenât taking so many drugs.
MotherOfMoses over 15 years ago
I think I have the answer Carmen. See when we started school, one of the first things, they taught us was: A, E, I, O, U,âŠ& sometimes WHY.
Durak Premium Member over 15 years ago
Fritzoid - the problem is people keep insisting that God has the same motivations, needs and desires as people do. When the truth is we canât figure out Godâs plan any more than the fish in my tank can figure out what Iâm doing, sitting here in front of my computer. We just donât have the same proper frame of reference. So when weâre unable to figure God out we just dumb him down and give him human traits. We make a mean, vindictive liar out of God, a god who canât be trusted. Instead of just stepping back, accepting what happens and dealing with life as best we can, on our own. There is a mystery and beauty to the universe that only God can be aware of. We just get to peep out at it from the inside of our bowls.
D-i-c-e-R over 15 years ago
âOurs is not to wonder why, ours is just to do or die.â The Charge of the Light Brigade by Alfred Tennyson
âItâs all too beautiful.â Itchycoo Park by Small Faces http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtVPA1bp65U
âJust do it.â Nike
Why are you just sitting there? Do something about it. Stop WHYning.
mrprongs over 15 years ago
Because god letâs them.
vasgar1 over 15 years ago
Why is there disease and pestilence and war, oh, thatâs right, there is no god. âThe fool has said in his heart, there is no God.â
Dutchboy1 over 15 years ago
Absolutely right, vasgar1! And the reason that God allows bad things to happen for now is because of what happened in the garden of Eden. There, Satan challenged Godâs right to rule mankind by telling Eve that they could be like God and decide for themselves what was good and bad, and she and Adam went along with that. Now God could have destroyed these rebels right then and there, but that wouldnât have answered that challenge to his sovereignty , so he decided to let mankind rule themselves for a while to prove that they couldnât do a better job than Him, and weâve done a pretty good job of proving God right. There will come a time, though, when God will put an end to this experiment and undo all the damage that mankind had done to the earth and themselves, and you donât want to be on the wrong side of the issue by saying things like âthere is no god, we can do things by ourselvesâ.
Dutchboy1 over 15 years ago
Isnât that the truth.