Andy Capp by Reg Smythe for January 31, 2012

Andy’s a happy guy, then.

For organic chicken I thought it meant they left the organs in!

Sadly ‘organic’ in this context is not as ‘organic’ as most people think. It refers to a standard set by the Soil Association, or whatever agency in your countries, that set a limit of quantity and type to the allowed chemicals(pesticides) that can be used in crop production. Organic can still be bad for you, just not as poisonous as non organic. The are some producers out there that are 100% organic but no distinction is made on food labelling. The best way is to grow your own, but then you need to make sure your soil is safe from heavy metals and other toxins.~The next issue is that many cans are lined with a micro layer of soft plastic(BPA) to prevent corrosion from the acid in the product, this has also been shown to be significantly toxic… the moral here is to buy your beer in bottles. Hopefully the use an organic washing-up liquid for the bottles.~And just to put another wry spanner in the works, technically most pesticides are derived from organic material, even crude oil is organic.

One of the hot issues that the organic farming community faces is soil contamination thanks to others who are not organic famers. This includes toxic metals, pesticides, GMOs and the like. But that doesn’t change the nature of organic farming itself. And you’d face the exact same problems if you grew your own food and for the exact same reasons.

One more thing: the original idea of “organic” farming (as a term) came from the contrast between using “organic” methods of fertilization (truly carbon-based, but substances like mulch, manure, etc.) and “inorganic” methods of fertilization (using inorganic minerals mined or otherwise extracted, such as NPK fertilizer). The fact that pesticides themselves are based on organic chemistry was not, then, a consideration in the development of the term “organic farming” and its contextual meaning. But pesticides do typically come from a factory and not from anything in the natural carbon and other cycles (another irony).Now if only I had some organic beer to pass around so you call could wash down my rant with something pleasant… and the drinks would be on me. After reading all this, you’d deserve it. :)

Isn’t Pabst Blue Ribbon the unofficial ironic beer?

Wow… and I actually read them. Sorry guys, but with my budget, organic doesn’t even come close to fitting in. Lessee eat every day or eat ‘healthy’ three times a week. I’ll take my chances.

At the risk of contradicting an expert, my casual readings regarding the term “organic food” in the US usually relate a lack of even a standard definition of what the term means.

Any purveyor is pretty much free to claim almost anything regarding “organic”. Maybe some states or localities police this, but certainly not at the federal level. And our food isn’t local any more, sadly. It travels looong distances. Orange juice is in the news for crossing our borders with a fungicide improperly present.

This will be good. Where’s the popcorn emoticon?

We don’t want to be elite. We just wanna have fun.

Not only is there such a thing as certified organic beer, there’s an organic beer brewed practically in Andy’s back yard.

http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/

http://www.samuelsmithsbrewery.co.uk/organiclager.html

Andy you got your team mates attention.

Shut up and drink already!!

Team players ? Treat your body like a temple ? Must be Ball & Jacks.

Samuel Smith’s Yorkshire Brewery makes an Organic Stout. That’d be right up Andy’s alley.

You know I went through an entire 20 piece Chicken McNugget, large order of fries, and several trips to the soda fountain reading these comments. All I can say is “What is for lunch??”

Organic or not. Andy is still going to do his magic trick of turning beer into urine.

@ Essex60 in reply to tail wind: :—-))