Dick Tracy by Mike Curtis and Charles Ettinger for November 06, 2014

“Of all the images we received”! Very interesting!

Good morning everyone!

Diet should have not gone to the outer limits in the first place.

At least we know Diet Smith isn’t a reckless fool.

1st time I read this poem by Shelley was at the end of the 1st Ultron story in “the Avengers” comic book in the 1960’s, after Ultron was (supposedly) destroyed (hope it won’t apply to Diet!):“I met a traveller from an antique land,Who said—’Two vast and trunkless legs of stoneStand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,Tell that its sculptor well those passions readWhich yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;And on the pedestal, these words appear:My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!Nothing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal Wreck, boundless and bareThe lone and level sands stretch far away.’”

Kind of like World War III? Not a place I’d like to go to.

“And I dreamed I saw the bombers jet planes riding shotgun in the sky.” From Crosby Stills Nash and Young. Their planes turned into butterflies, above our nation.

Yeah, Armageddon does tend to put a damper on things…

“That image was of next Tuesday.”

Diet Smith’s Visions of Future Past! (Isn’t that a recent movie from the Marvel canon?) Will this digression weave into the main current arc (whatever that may be; I’m not sure at this moment), or is it just a red herring?

Morning, Tracyville!The fact that Diet is going into this much detail might be an indication that Team Tracy is testing the waters to see how popular the idea of a time travel story might be. All this might eventually lead up to a time travel story, but I don’t think we’re ready for it yet.

But think of the possibilities! Even without actually sending a person back in time, Project Blue Image could be developed into a crime fighting tool. The MCU could use the machine to capture the image of a crime being committed and enable the police to identify the perp!

Good morning all especially VistaBill. Good comments all. Have a great day.

I can’t help wondering if someone could’ve hitched a ride back from the past (or the future?) during one of those scrapped time trips.

So if the mystery ship kept traveling to different eras, would that make it’s navigational circuits all wibbly-wobbly? ;)

Hmm. “This building all gone but for…” and “Aircraft filled the sky…”It’s been a very long time, but weren’t those scenes in “Things to Come,”a movie from the 30’s written by H.G. Wells (yes, Wells wrote the screenplay) and starring Raymond Massey (yes, as in “Arsenic and Old Lace”).

Interesting. Diet’s comments means he’d been experimenting for some time (no pun intended) before we first saw it, when it appeared to be on the verge of exploding.Or could that “explosion” have been something it saw?Could it have accidentally brought something back to the present?Random peeks through time are never good. Not all our possible futures are pleasant ones.

Yesterday you asked, “Is the mob or threat of strong legal action preventing you disclosing this “certain factory” ?” (He was one of a large number of workers who died of cancers associated with the fumes from open chemical vats.)-—————More the latter than the former.The factory was in Stratford, CT, and had, over the years, belonged to Igor Sikorsky, and produced F4U-Corsair fighter planes during World War II, but I honestly don’t recall the name of the owners at that time of the deaths (it was the early 1980’s). There were some lawsuits against the company, but of course, the company was denying the open-pits of chemicals had anything to do with it. The last I heard was about five years ago, and they were still denying the scientific testimony.The factory was closed years ago (and stayed closed for at least a decade). About 15-20 years ago, when the town was considering what to do with/about it, the building was determined to be in need of a major hazardous waste clean up. If I remember correctly, it was then the property of the U.S. Army.I’ve no idea what it is now.

I am wondering about the final image showing Diet Smith’s buildings in rubble. Could it be from the future, or from an altered reality?

Time is of the Essence…

YESTERDAY * – NightGaunt 49* said :

" Even though you are breathing in unfiltered poison and the fact we have so many other forms of carcinogens out there you shouldn’t come off sounding like the same Smoking Companies and their men who lied about smoking causing cancer even when it had been proven for years "

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Truly sorry if I came off sounding that way . . . Don’t and never worked for Cigarette Manufacturers. Been in the Life Insurance business all my Life, where we took note - of these potential hazards

And lets further note, that I was a ‘One-time’ smoker - who hasn’t smoked now for some 12 years.. . .Certainly not good for you health, can eventually affect the heart. But VERY addictive, and I’ve even had a close friend, a heavy Smoker, who DID develop and DIE from, associated Lung Cancer 2 years ago. And sensibly perhaps (?) No member of his close family (7) - have the slightest worry of any ill effect of second-hand smoke. The likely-hood is microscopic !

It’s worth noting, that I’ve likely smoked for More Years, than many a poster on this board - has Lived !I guess you can say I’ve LIVED through it, haven’t DIED from it, and even been - ‘around’, for a ‘Couple More’ years, than our well loved, senior member - Vista Bill . . . (?)

My now adult kids, (just like I had, before them), have all Grown Up with ‘second hand’ smoke (Father, Uncles, Grandfather) and they remain, apparently quite Healthy if we ‘believe’ their current medical reports.This experience in no different to those of several cousins and their families And yes, it’s ‘possible’ we were born with a stronger resistance to the ill effects of smoking and to,( I do suspect) - the “exaggerated” one of ‘second-hand’ smoke, that might more easily overtake others of a less robust strain ?. Different Strokes for different Folks ?

Those who have actually experienced something in many related families (for 2 generations) come out with a “hands on” perspective. Particularly when. They haven’t seen victims of this alleged carcinogen (second-hand smoke) falling down like Flies in their Families or in their Communities. People BELIEVE what they experience !

This will likely raise a ’ Hornets Nest ’ for True Believers - But really, It’s ‘Little Different’ -* to the ALARMISTS like Al Gore -. Who tell us of Man made Global Warming, ruining the Planet ? While at the same time, his readers in South Carolina, in late October 2014, experience their Genitals being frozen as they walk outside at night . . . As Al likely ads another ‘$Mil’ to his Account !

The normal Autopsy doesn’t ‘speculate’ on what may have caused it, unless, there was some need for ‘Litigation’ * . . .* say, like your Uncle in the factory ? -—————-Okay Sparky, facts of life. I’ve had cancer. My wife died from it on January 3, 10 months ago. I’ve lost other relatives to it.You don’t need a special autopsy to determine cause. Different toxins cause different cancers. That is a fact. Pure and simple.Steve McQueen had cancer caused by asbestos. No magic wand needed to determine that.Tony Gwynn had cancer in his mouth caused by chewing tobacco. (Yeah, the tobacco industry says otherwise. And Ford said the Pinto wasn’t a firetrap.)Cancers have their own fingerprint. Not all wave flags. My wife and I had two closely related cancers. She died of Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia (CLL). I had Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma. We lived for many years near a factory which was a major asbestos and chemical toxin site, worked in the same businesses (often in the same building), and were obviously exposed to the same things.As far as my uncle’s brain cancer, nobody in my family was ever involved in any litigation. Nobody. To suggest this is linked to making a buck is low. Really low.You want to go off about politics, take it somewhere else.

Glad to hear he was alright.I grew up downwind of Stratford, where there was also a factory that made auto brakes. They seemed to produce almost as much asbestos waste and toxic chemicals as brakes. My next door neighbor worked there and died of lung cancer caused by the asbestos.Of course, in those days, nobody realized the dangers, and the asbestos was sprayed in all manner of buildings as fire retardant, and exposed generations of people to it.

Problem with the ASSUMPTIONS like a Waitress getting LUNG CANCER from Second Hand Smoke, is that there is No Conclusive – proof, that IS the source. Maybe just convenient “Speculation”, from those that dislike the habit ?

Very few things in life are provable 100%, but the preponderance of evidence points to this waitress’s claim being valid. Here is a Wikipedia article about her: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heather_Crowe. She was, in fact, awarded damages by the Ontario Workplace Safety & Insurance Board (WSIB). The WSIB came to a conclusion that her claim had merit.

You won’t get to meet her, because the cancer did kill her, but here she is in a public service announcement from the South Dakota Department of Health:

The “Physicians for a Smoke-free Canada” has her story http://www.smoke-free.ca/heathercrowe/heathers-story.htm, and the FAQ page has a lot of information, including why she claimed that the tumour was caused by second-hand smoke and not something else. Admittedly, she was an extreme case. She worked for 40 years in smoke-filled restaurants and banquet halls, sometimes two or even three shifts in a day. Most people do not work that many hours or as a waitress for that long. The site, unfortunately, is a bit outdated now and appears not to have been updated in years.

While I was looking for that information, I also found a case of a waitress in the U.S. who died from acute asthma attributed to second-hand smoke at her job as a waitress. This was reported in the American Journal of Industrial Medicine in 2008. Here is the story: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080208101802.htm.

All that I was arguing was that smoking bans are a reality in most restaurants and many other public places in Canada and the United States. I am not going to try to argue about whether smoking causes lung cancer (though I believe that it does) or whether people can get cancer from second-hand smoke. I’m only arguing that smoking bans are a fact of life in most places now.

I never claimed that Pat had lung cancer either, though someone else hinted that it might be the case. All we know is that Pat had cancer. The cause or the form of cancer was never mentioned, so far as I know.

Gweedo, when I joined the armed services in 1966, one of the steps we took in Basic Training is they marched us all through a building where they had two lungs laid out on a table. You could look at them as long as you wanted. The first one was pink; the second one was from a smoker. It looked like they got it out of my bar-b-que smoker at home. Several of the recruits gagged; some threw up. I threw away my cigarettes in the garbage can inside the room and never touched one since.

I’m sure that people with perfectly healthy lungs die every day. Lung problems are certainly not the only cause of death people have.

Why would they remove a healthy lung ?-—————It was probably from a medical school cadaver.

People die all the time. Some are smokers; some not. Their parts don’t go with them to the funeral home. Even the government can get an organ if they wanted. My high school biology class had lots of spare parts in jars.

From “He” by H. P. Lovecraft 1926:

And as he snarled the phrase under his breath he gestured anew bringing to the sky a flash more blinding than either which had come before. For full three seconds I could glimpse that pandemoniac sight, and in those seconds I saw a vista which will ever afterward torment me in dreams. I saw the heavens verminous with strange flying things, and beneath them a hellish black city of giant stone terraces with impious pyramids flung savagely to the moon, and devil-lights burning from unnumbered windows. And swarming loathsomely on aerial galleries I saw the yellow, squint-eyed people of that city, robed horribly in orange and red, and dancing insanely to the pounding of fevered kettle-drums, the clatter of obscene crotala, and the maniacal moaning of muted horns whose ceaseless dirges rose and fell undulantly like the wave of an unhallowed ocean of bitumen.

For those who care: The scene Dietrich describes above occurs on 17-Oct-21 during an adventure featuring a „Time Drone“.