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Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for April 03, 2010
Transcript:
Zonker: I'm telling you, it was like a roundtrip ticket to back in the day! All the milling about in costumes, yelling random, wacky things about taking down the establishment... I mean, that was my thing! I loved sticking it to the man! B.D.: Man? What man? Zonker: You! You were the man! Boopsie: You don't remember? You were so handsome then!
FriscoLou almost 15 years ago
Can anyone trust their recollection of âThe Dayâ?
SuperGriz almost 15 years ago
He was captain of the football team. ya know, an uber-jock.
As the saying goes âIf you remember the â60âs, you werenât really there.â
GJ_Jehosaphat almost 15 years ago
âThe Manâ is in the mind of the beholder. How odd âThe Manâ is Liberal in the minds of TEA Baggers - Ironic or Moronic?
ksoskins almost 15 years ago
After Eric Massaâs story, I donât call them Tea Baggers anymore. Now I refer to them as Snorkelers.
cdward almost 15 years ago
I think B.D. was just representative of âThe Manâ â sort of like a young Republican.
charliesommers almost 15 years ago
I missed a lot of the 60s because of spending 8 years in southeast & northeast Asia. The seventies rocked though.
3hourtour Premium Member almost 15 years ago
..now,G.T. is the manâŠ
rottmom almost 15 years ago
What I find really interesting is that in this day of black and white political thinking (the âyou are either with us or against usâ thinking), BD and Zonker remain friends!
I think there might actually be a lesson in that for many of us.
freeholder1 almost 15 years ago
You da man, Zonker, You da man!!! OOPS!
poparu almost 15 years ago
We has met the man he is us.
cdhaley almost 15 years ago
B(rian) D(owling), the All-American quarterback, graduated from Yale in 1969, a year before Trudeau. GT depicted B.D. for a Yale comic strip that became the prototype for Doonesbury. Older readers will remember B.D. with his football helmetâand often with his can of beerâtrying to take charge of every situation.
As usual, GTâs satire on childish rebellion against authority (Zonker, Teapartiers) contains a strong dash of self-mockeryâmixed, in todayâs strip, with nostalgia for the days when GT (Zonker, here) envied B.D.
Readers who bristle at GTâs liberal elitism are missing his genuinely liberal self-criticism.
Teapartiers could use some of this self-criticism themselves; but if any of them figured out that âthe Manâ (like the Wizard of Oz) is just an imaginary âleaderâ for everbody to resent, theyâd quickly be booted from the party.
When Faux News presents Rush and Glenn mouthing offâunlike that wimp Obama, who can think on his feet while using a teleprompter to keep his remarks on taskâthey make any self-criticism sound elitist.
Thinking before you speak is un-American: it challenges your listenersâ attention-span and implies that you lack conviction. Macho guys like John Wayne and the younger B.D. wouldnât know what a teleprompter is for, because they never had to speak a whole paragraph. And Sarah Palin doesnât even try.
cfimeiatpap almost 15 years ago
A most excellent post pd;
Commissars and pin-striped bosses role the dice Any way they fall guess who gets to pay the price Money green or proletarian gray Selling guns instead of food today
So the kids they dance, and shake their bones And the politicianâs throwing stones Singing ashes to ashes all fall down Ashes to ashes all fall down
Throwing Stones - Grateful Dead
GJ_Jehosaphat almost 15 years ago
Sometimes instead of âThe Manâ - it was All The Presidentâs Men
WaterGate - The Original âGate-Wayâ to political scandals!RinaFarina almost 15 years ago
âYou were so handsome thenâ Boy, what an insulting thing to say!
cdhaley almost 15 years ago
@RF:
Back in days when ânone but the brave deserve[d] the fair,â B.D.âs wife used to be a cute chick. Now Boopsieâs just an aging housewife reminiscing over their lost youth. Recalling his good looks helps restore hers.
More self-mockery by GT of himself and his older readers.
MurphyHerself almost 15 years ago
HEY, l identify with some of this stuff, so be careful what you say. Older readers indeed.
cdhaley almost 15 years ago
Sorry, MH. Iâm old enough to have been one of GTâs instructorsâor one of yours
Chrisnp almost 15 years ago
Thanks palin drome. Iâve been reading Doonesbury since the first generation was attending Walden (remember the conversations in BDâs football huddle)? Although Iâm a bit more generous to the teaparty people, I think your post about GTâs work is very insightful.
If BD wasnât âThe Manâ back in the day, Iâd say he certainly represented âThe Man.â Going by my memory, I think the first crackâs in BDâs armor happened after college, back in Nam when he was captured by Fred the VC, and they started a dialogue. In my opinion, the characterâs been evolving wonderfully ever since.
So when Zonker says to BD âYou! You were The Man!â Iâm in full agreement.
cdhaley almost 15 years ago
@Chrisnp:
You know Doonesbury far better than I do, Chris. But I do remember a story Yalies used to tell about Brian Dowling, who was the stereotypical âdumb jock.â
On the first day of class when B.D. arrived, the other students all cheered and applaudedânot for B.D. the heroic âleaderâ and quarterback, but because they knew that if B.D. was taking the class, it must be a âgutâ (1960s slang for a course with skimpy reading assignments).
I taught some of those Yale students forty years ago and they were pretty laid-back politically. I wonder if Trudeau finds any of them joining the Teapartiers (Zonkerâs a college dropout, isnât he?)
autumnfire1957 almost 15 years ago
Wasnât B.D. ROTC too? Any way, The Tea-baggers would never have protested. They never served in the military or Peace Corps or any social cause. And heaven forbid they actually had to work for a living.
Bitter against the wealthy am I? Yea, some of them.
rickmdm almost 15 years ago
Ah ..Zonker you are the man, you keep us that grew up in parallel with Doonesbury, grounded in the âdayâ. BD never got it, and his like is everywhere today.
Ushindi almost 15 years ago
Remember, B.D. was also a Highway Patrolman for a while - that would definitely make him âThe Manâ to ZonkâŠ
Chrisnp almost 15 years ago
rickmdm, I think the great thing is that the characters DID grow up parallel with us, and with the apparent exception of Zonker, matured with us too.
I think BD âgets itâ more now than he used to, or at least he has more depth. Of course he has to remain the conservative foil for the strip, so I doubt weâll see him renouncing his support for Sara Palin any time soon.
SuperGriz almost 15 years ago
B.D. âgot itâ when he lost his leg in Iraq.
benbrilling almost 15 years ago
ââŠhandsome THEN?â Not a well thought out comment, if oneâs concerned with being thoughtful .
ChukLitl Premium Member almost 15 years ago
He was a Reserve officer in 3 wars. He daâ Man.
3hourtour Premium Member almost 15 years ago
..in my opinion,B.D. is a modern day hero.I have always liked him.
âŠI think the downfall of the tea baggers is that they just donât get sarcasim..they take everything so literally
cdhaley almost 15 years ago
@3hourtour:
Iâve always liked B.D. too. Heâs proved himself more than a dumb jock.
But are we ready for GT to bring him out defending the Teaparty next week (maybe)?
RonBerg13 Premium Member almost 15 years ago
Woah there, Joe. Donât paint with such a wide brush.
Iâm a Tea Party\Bagger enthusiast and I spent part of the Sixties in the Army and Asia. Most of it very unpleasantly.
I put my a$$ on the line for freedom of speech, the right to assembly, to carry arms - the whole ball of wax.
I donât begrudge the Tea folks their right to get together any more than I do those people of the left or middle.
There is still room for every one in this countryâs political dialogue, I hope.
yyyguy almost 15 years ago
if there isnât room for that Ron then your country will have lost itâs way (and probably itâs existence along with it). there has always seemed to be dissent of some sort in the USA, and thatâs a good thing for a country to have - as long as itâs a healthy disagreement and not like the Communist witch hunts of the early post WWII era.
FriscoLou almost 15 years ago
BD, Duke, de all good.
Wildcard24365 almost 15 years ago
I donât see anything insulting with Boopsieâs comment. Just getting taken up in how smitten she was with him back then.
She still is, I imagine, but the relationship has of course matured and evolved in the last (HOLY CRAP!) 40 years or so. Heâs still the hunk, but the attraction is tempered with a LOTTA maturity and familiarity.
Llywus almost 15 years ago
SuperGriz said, 2 days ago âHe was captain of the football team. ya know, an uber-jock.â
And Zonk was on the team, too. If my fog-shrouded mind remember rightly he was a receiver. He certainly had more starts on his helmet than anyone else.