Doonesbury by Garry Trudeau for February 07, 2012

Romney is a Mexican!

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While we are on the subject of Africa there is also a prince that give you ten thousand dollars, he only needs your bank account information.

So, is this Glenn Beck’s research department? Can’t be Rush Dimbulb’s – he doesn’t read. Or think, really, but that’s another blog.

Jeez! People have such short memories.The anti-campaign sign said “Obama is a half-breed Muslin”.Obviously made up out of the whole cloth.

what a hoot…..and so unfortunately true. ….you can ‘buy’ any set of ‘facts’ you choose.

I once challenged hubby when he was spouting some crap he found on-line. He screamed “does Google lie???” How to answer – Google neither lies nor tells the truth, but boy does it lead you to the rantings of idiots. A giant leap forward for conspiracy theorists.

Lies, damned lies and some statistics I googled.

What a bargain! So, Trump was RIGHT!!!

The internet is a library where anyone can place any book on the shelf he likes. Once, it was the task of a teacher to instruct students in how to find information. Now it has to be the task of the teacher to instruct students in how to distinguish good information from bad, or at least better from worse. Know how to do that? Neither do they. There once were gatekeepers to keep the bad stuff out. Sometimes the gatekeepers made mistakes. So we have done away with them. This seems to be the general impulse these days. We discover that the police are more-or-less corrupt, so we abolish the police force. That’s ever so much easier than fixing the problem. Especially when we know that it never stays fixed, human beings being what they are. Instead of the corruption being the problem, “the police are the problem.” You think I am exaggerating? I know several libertarians who actually do advocate for the abolition of all police forces, leaving law enforcement, etc., to citizens to do for themselves. This was the way of it in the 18th century, the Founding Fathers never imagined a police force, and if the FFs did not think it necessary, why should we? But I digress… The point about the Founding Fathers is quite correct. It is a fact and can be used in support of the view that the police are unnecessary. But is the fact relevant to our times?

This sounds a lot like what people do with the bible – you can find any verse you want to support your position. Just look at slavery as an example….

Oh, I have heard Bush called a Fascist, a warmonger, and a few other things. But you’re right, extremist rhetoric of that sort is much more on the fringe of the left, more in the mainstream of the modern right. Can you imagine a crowd shouting “Fascist” or “Nazi” at a Democratic rally or debate when Bush was mentioned as we have seen the crowd shout Kenyan and Muslim at GOP events when Obama is mentioned?

I wasn’t signed in to leave a comment so I had to find my password and sign in. Now I can’t think of what I was going to write.

Now I remember, I was told by a leo once that they are not there to stop crime, but only to take down the info and see if they can catch the perp. I was instructed by him to get a carry permit.

this is great! i just got back and it is good to have a bit of home home slice! TD! all the way, love it!

Are you serious? No one can show you the equivalent because there isn’t one. But Bush was hammered every which way, and by the very “artist” who draws this strip. How about the “Bush deliberately lied to get us into Iraq so we could take their oil” line? Or “Bush went AWOL from the National Guard” line? Or here’s one….“Bush planned 9/11 just so we could have an excuse to invade Iraq” line? The list goes on. What they are trying to say about Obama doesn’t hold a candle to what The Vast Leftwing Conspiracy was lobbing at Bush.

I wonder how many folks will think this is real

I hope DT is on a vacation somewhere or spending time with his grandkids.

The arguments you want are out there – they simply don’t claim the sort of narrow and spurious drivel you request here.

I just deleted the rant I was going to post – frankly, rehashing arguments against W makes my blood pressure skyrocket.

Have a nice day with the likes of Mitzi Romney.

Let’s be real here, there never has been true religious freedom in this country. There has been religious freedom for most Christians, but not for Mormons, or Muslims or other less popular groups. And now there is this movement to make Christianity the official religion, so they can oppress other religious groups legally. To top it off, one major political party has aligned themselves with this group purely to win elections.

Yeeah, never understood the Kenya argument anyhow. McCain was born in Panama – so even if Obama was born in Kenya, it wouldn’t have ruled him out anymore than McCain.

Gotta love this! Anyone who still believes this would definately fall for the scam. lol

“W is an idiot”? (Considering that he was a grad of an elite school, this could be an arguable statement.)

I love Trudeau’s term: “optimized reality.” It complements Jonathan Haidt’s “consensual hallucination” term.

Yep, 20 years attending church with that accursed Imam Jeremiah Wright in a Baptist convention- real Muslim there. As to "W"s military record and “waivers”, my son once missed formation because he had ORDERS to go to a medical appointment and missed the formation. They tried to give him an Article 15.

“W” was gone for months, over 30 days IS desertion under the UCMJ, as a guy in our Army unit during Viet Nam found out (he too was in Alabama!)

If you want insane “made up facts”, just tune in a few minutes of “700 Club”, 20 seconds of Rush, or find out where Beck went, I timed him for two weeks once, it only took a maximum of 32 seconds for him to come up with a total lie. Interesting times indeed.

dtroutma – Thank you for your service.

As an historical footnote: Lord Baltimore granted freedom of religion to Catholics in Maryland when the colony was founded in the 1630s, but he was not permitted to keep the Protestants out. When they outnumbered the Catholics in the 1690s, they elected a Protestant majority in the Maryland assembly, and outlawed Roman Catholicism. Governor Francis Nicholson moved the government from the Catholic district in southern Maryland to the Protestant district in northern Maryland, from St. Mary’s City, to Annapolis, a town Nicholson founded. For the rest of the colonial period Catholics were permitted to exist in Maryland under a sort of “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy and practice their religion only behind closed doors. Until 1776, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and (I think) Delaware and parts of New Jersey were the only places where it was possible to build a Roman Catholic church or practice the religion openly. When the first Roman Catholic church was built in New York City in 1785, there was plenty of outrage. Roman Catholicism, it was said, was fundamentally a religion of autocracy and oppression, in open war against all Protestants, and essentially incompatible with American values. Sound familiar?

Thanks for your kind words. And hey, when two people agree with one another on ALL questions, there is something seriously wrong with one of them.

“MyFacts” sounds like Murdoch or Rush or Insert-Any-Right-Wing-Propagandist-Here found a way to turn an expense – their “research” department – into a profit center, a debit into a credit, by going public with their product Capitalism at it’s finest.

“MyFacts” = Wikipedia ????

AshburnStadium: You need to do some research on Obama’s former church. It is not part of mainstream Christianity, but is founded on Black Liberation Theology. It’s founder, James H. Cone, is an adherent to Marxist principles. Obama soaked this mindset in for 20 years, and it is a deep part of his ideology.

Barry Soetoro, a.k.a: Barack Hussein Obama, was an Indonesian citizen when he and his mother lived in Indonesia. Barry was enrolled in a public school that required all of its students to be muslim. He does not outwardly confess that faith now, which leads the devout muslims to label him as kufir, or infidel.

ALEC…off the shelf lies worked into laws by the wrongwingers’ doyens’ money…Koch and boys helping their hired puppet legislators who can prance in public but can’t think…

And by the way, “Rusty” Limpoo CAN read, and very well. That’s all he’s EVER done…that’s how he got the job in the billionaires’ audition for their mouthpiece…ALL his stuff is written for him. That’s why there are so few guests!

I opine that’s why he went to drugs, to kill the pain from what cr@p he was reading…he had a psychosomatic reaction, and STILL has it, although he’ll never leave the money.

Call me a cynic, but I don’t think Obama’s very religious one way or another. I think his association with JW was more a political expectancy/expediency than an expression of faith. A lot of politicians feel like they need to score on the religiosity meter in order to get elected. Oddly Reagan was an exception, he never went out and had to prove his piety. Clinton was the same way until at some point in his presidency he had to turn to the Big Guns, (Billy Graham, Jesse Jackson) in order to regain his spiritual balance. I think Obama is guided more by ration, reason and political calculation than by religious principals, no matter how many Bible verses he slips in a speech, and I think he would be just as faithful if he were pretending to be a Muslim.

Gon’na get REAL interesting when Mitt gets the nomination and Rove gets all the psychos like zippy going: btw zippy, look up “dipstick” in the dictionary of slang.

No, no, no. Not thoseFACTS. Want myFACTS the ones that will allow me to bedazzle and bamboozle my co-workers.You know -- the “Ripley’s Believe It or Not” type of facts. The fun stuff!

‘Proof’ that Obama was also Malcolm X’s love child costs an additional $15.95.