If America refers to the USA and not the continent, that it would be from 1776 on. So that would be whites vs. natives, slaves and other non-whites. Let’s check the census!
And, if they were like most pre-development societies, they had a life-expediency of the mid-thirties with half their children dying before they were ten. People who glamorize the past are secure in the knowledge they wouldn’t have to live there.
You must be crazy. Please don’t say you really believe that. Go try living in the woods for a year, with NO products produced after 1700, then tell me this fairy tale again
Archimedes: With the woods and its supporting ecosystem destroyed, no knowledge of herbal medicines, poisoned water in the streams, and no social structure for mutual help, how can anyone try that? Return everything to pre-1700 conditions and it is feasible – but then you can’t do that either.
I agree with your point of view.People say, “Oh, imagine life without all the things we’re used to!”, but the reality is that life was much more beautiful and natural before small-pox and alcohol arrived.
Interesting point on that “life expectancy” thing. It wasn’t any greater in Europe in 1492, and in fact was generally far lower than in North America, especially if you “crossed” the Inquisition. That same European institution didn’t do much good for the American “natives” either. It was actually called “genocide by church”.
For those who are commenting about how “primitive” the Native American societies were, I suggest you look up Monk’s Mound. Further, many of the societies practiced better hygiene than the settlers, and especially in South America developed highly advanced societies. I recall reading before at school how the Mayans I think it was had constructed aqueducts and other neat things.
Good story. My family claims that when they started farming in the midwest an old Indian came along looked at the newly plowed ground, shook his head and said “Land wrong side up.” Not too many years later…dust bowl.
Nah, that’s not it; they post other things besides hate. For example, scientific ignorance, dog eat dog economics (though that may be a subset of hate), fear (of change, of people who are different), nostalgia (blacks in the fields, women in the kitchen), various political lies and, of course, lots of religion.
Hmm, interesting idea; let’s check it out. Do we hate gays? No, that would be the right wing. Mexicans (as if the right could tell one Hispanic from another)? No, that’s the right again. Blacks? Do I hear “Duelling Banjos” playing in the background? Muslims? Christian right, front and center. Women? Rick Santorum for president! The poor? My-name-is-Mitt-Romney-and-I-like-to-fire-people. The environment? ROFLMAO.But, I will admit that they do “love” the rich, as do all whores.
Thanks, big guy. Nice to hear a kind word, and nice to see DenverMosaic on board, too. The Darwin fish is nice; I also like the one with the word “Gefilte” in the middle!
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Thumbs up!!
cripplious about 12 years ago
Hey chief your people did not count the first time
aguirra3 about 12 years ago
And more of us non-whiters are hating liberal policies…so there is hope for America!
ossiningaling about 12 years ago
If America refers to the USA and not the continent, that it would be from 1776 on. So that would be whites vs. natives, slaves and other non-whites. Let’s check the census!
Motivemagus about 12 years ago
Okay, fair…
marilynrknits about 12 years ago
And they had no “firewater” or measles.
pdchapin about 12 years ago
And, if they were like most pre-development societies, they had a life-expediency of the mid-thirties with half their children dying before they were ten. People who glamorize the past are secure in the knowledge they wouldn’t have to live there.
archimedeslives about 12 years ago
You must be crazy. Please don’t say you really believe that. Go try living in the woods for a year, with NO products produced after 1700, then tell me this fairy tale again
hippogriff about 12 years ago
Archimedes: With the woods and its supporting ecosystem destroyed, no knowledge of herbal medicines, poisoned water in the streams, and no social structure for mutual help, how can anyone try that? Return everything to pre-1700 conditions and it is feasible – but then you can’t do that either.
ProgressiveCDN about 12 years ago
Wow.. the trolls even come out for comics!This was witty and smart! Great Comic! 2 Thumbs Up!
ProgressiveCDN about 12 years ago
I agree with your point of view.People say, “Oh, imagine life without all the things we’re used to!”, but the reality is that life was much more beautiful and natural before small-pox and alcohol arrived.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Interesting point on that “life expectancy” thing. It wasn’t any greater in Europe in 1492, and in fact was generally far lower than in North America, especially if you “crossed” the Inquisition. That same European institution didn’t do much good for the American “natives” either. It was actually called “genocide by church”.
rick_e_bear Premium Member about 12 years ago
Do all you righties post nothing but hate?
Unendingfear about 12 years ago
For those who are commenting about how “primitive” the Native American societies were, I suggest you look up Monk’s Mound. Further, many of the societies practiced better hygiene than the settlers, and especially in South America developed highly advanced societies. I recall reading before at school how the Mayans I think it was had constructed aqueducts and other neat things.
pirate227 about 12 years ago
Be afraid cons, very afraid…
walruscarver2000 about 12 years ago
Good story. My family claims that when they started farming in the midwest an old Indian came along looked at the newly plowed ground, shook his head and said “Land wrong side up.” Not too many years later…dust bowl.
markjoseph125 about 12 years ago
Nah, that’s not it; they post other things besides hate. For example, scientific ignorance, dog eat dog economics (though that may be a subset of hate), fear (of change, of people who are different), nostalgia (blacks in the fields, women in the kitchen), various political lies and, of course, lots of religion.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Go back to the "beginning’ and we ALL came out of Africa, that should please all the skinheads.
Dtroutma about 12 years ago
Iroquois Confederacy, basis for much of our Constitution and “new” form of government. Yup, them “savages” didn’t have anything to offer.
markjoseph125 about 12 years ago
Hmm, interesting idea; let’s check it out. Do we hate gays? No, that would be the right wing. Mexicans (as if the right could tell one Hispanic from another)? No, that’s the right again. Blacks? Do I hear “Duelling Banjos” playing in the background? Muslims? Christian right, front and center. Women? Rick Santorum for president! The poor? My-name-is-Mitt-Romney-and-I-like-to-fire-people. The environment? ROFLMAO.But, I will admit that they do “love” the rich, as do all whores.
markjoseph125 about 12 years ago
Thanks, big guy. Nice to hear a kind word, and nice to see DenverMosaic on board, too. The Darwin fish is nice; I also like the one with the word “Gefilte” in the middle!
walruscarver2000 about 12 years ago
dtroutma, we should give this one to him. If there is anyone here who is an authority on “bullplop” it would certainly be rightiswrong.
walruscarver2000 about 12 years ago
Yawn
caroljshelton about 12 years ago
To Matt Bors:This is a truly great cartoon. I’ve shared it with others, especially a sociology prof at Pitt.