Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for April 09, 2013

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    Peabody-Martini  over 11 years ago

    The irony is that the very people who will make this political are the very ones depicted in the comic.

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    Brass Orchid Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Maybe we should limit the amount of power government has if people cannot be trusted with automatic fire or large clips. You know, just to limit the damage they can do themselves.

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    alviebird  over 11 years ago

    Sure they will. Hey, all they have to do is keep playing that lottery.

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    b.m.razzilla  over 11 years ago

    Anyone ever see a democrat smile…other than when he’s raising your taxes???

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    EDinWAState  over 11 years ago

    You did it again Wiley… I don’t know whether to laugh or cry… Its tragic… but so true… will it never end?

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    Varnes  over 11 years ago

    Boy, talk about just coming out and sayin’ it…..

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    Varnes  over 11 years ago

    BTW, dinner looks tasty……

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    roctor  over 11 years ago

    Thank you Wiley. I will consider this my personal cartoon.

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    Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Ah! So THOSE are Republicans!!

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    J Short  over 11 years ago

    Like the Tootsie Pop ad. How many comments does it take to get political? One…two…three..four. It takes four

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    Q4horse  over 11 years ago

    Government is the problem, not the solution.

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    WCLamb  over 11 years ago

    @ Varnes…

    Tasty? What the heck is on that spit? Bird? Rat? Squirrel?

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    chazandru  over 11 years ago

    Since December, thirty states have passed laws that will make voting more cumbersome than it has been. In NC, out of state parents of children attending NC colleges will be required to pay an addition fee(sounds like a form of poll tax) if their children want to vote from their college address. Other laws make absentee voting harder and/or shorten the amount of time in which absentee votes can be receivied. Other new laws reduce the days in which people can vote in advance as well as restrictions on who can register new voters, There is now an effort being made in at least four states to repeal the 17th amendment which gives Americans to directly elect their Senators. The legislatures of those states want to give the responsibility of electing Senators to state legislatures. With the gerrymandering and redistricting(red mapping) and other nefarious actions being taken, this seems a threat to Americans ability to have a voice in their gov’t. We have a hard enough time being heard now.It is easy to understand why majorities might want to create super majorities – it worked for Hugo Chavez – it is not the way to run a truly Democratic Nation.We need a centrist gov’t in order to be the United States. We should not allow either side to turn us against our neighbors, and we should be Nine Issue Voters and vote for the greater good. That IS in our best interest.Respectfully,C.

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    I Quit  over 11 years ago

    Democrat vs Republican is presented to the American public as an either/or choice. Unfortunately, neither party is fit to govern America. This is what is meant by voting against your own self interest.

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    Brightspot60  over 11 years ago

    It started about 6 posts down…and blossomed into full PC glory with the post, 8 down from yours. You called it!

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    Reppr Premium Member over 11 years ago

    It started with the cartoon. Make a political cartoon, stupid and wrong thought it may be, and you get a political response. Then some ignorant poster says the rich don’t pay taxes. Heck, the rich pay MOST of the taxes. Its the guys in the cartoon that don’t pay any. All take and no pay.

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    Burnside217  over 11 years ago

    So does Mr. Miller like to throwing gas on the fire just to watch the reaction? It’s going to be an ugly day NonSequitur Comments Land..

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    wkb123123  over 11 years ago

    Yep ‘cause ALL the right-wingers are fat white slobs livin’ in a trailer with a pickup in the yard…Yeesh.It really is so much better that our government is willing to make up our minds for us, think for us, be our dietician, be our wet-nurse, tell us when to procreate, when to terminate, when to retire, when to become soylent green, when to whine, when to be outraged. I am happy not being a person, making it on my own and gaining some sense of self-satisfaction.

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    DutchUncle  over 11 years ago

    At least the anti-abortion has some logical consistency, though I feel it’s based on an illogical premise. The sexual-preference issue, though, should get more sympathy; these people obviously have a birth defect that renders them unable to reproduce, which is the sort of thing I would expect religious people to pity.

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    Beleck3  over 11 years ago

    lol wonder why this is so political. the cartoon simply state facts. all this to-do. ignorance is bliss from what this cartoon states. what’s the problem with that? lol.

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    paultunes  over 11 years ago

    the toon is spot on. i love the Calvinist who think bad things only happen to bad and lazy people. they are like Ayn Rand who bitched about the horror of the government programs but lined right up to get her entitlement. why anyone listens to that hypocrite is beyond me.. all the folks who got their homes wrecked by Sandy last fall weren’t telling the government to get lost and more worried about the deficit than their houses but complaining the government wasn’t acting fast enough.

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    Richtmyer  over 11 years ago

    I assume that the couple does vote democrat. Otherwise the strip doesn’t make any sense.

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    dabugger  over 11 years ago

    Of course its political. Just when were people give any rights to determine their own interests? What audacity, imagine being able to decide such things as without it being inherited. Who do we think we are?

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    The#1BoiseStateFan  over 11 years ago

    Political comments; AY YI YI!

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    rockngolfer  over 11 years ago

    The only thing missing is the Romney/Ryan sign in the yard.

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    KSfarmgirl  over 11 years ago

    This reminds me of how many people in Ozark County, MO live. Only Republicans are elected except for one county commissioner. Almost all in the county are white, right wing Christians. This is where the CSA (The Covenant, the Sword and the Arm of the Lord) had their stronghold back in the 70’s to 80’s. It’s not uncommon to hear an hour of shooting, some automatic.

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    yimhere  over 11 years ago

    Kudos to all the discussants. Evidence for what divides our great country. But here we are – in spite of our differences – trying to make it work. And so it goes…

    My guess is that it’s ’possum on the grill…

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    michaelpatric  over 11 years ago

    Right On!

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    BloomCo  over 11 years ago

    If it is all the republicans fault I wonder how there came to be so many rich democrats?

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    Warren Wubker  over 11 years ago

    I’m sure that when everyone notices that poverty has been eliminated in places that only vote Democrat, the rest of the country will quit voting for self reliance.

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    Harrison_Bergeron  over 11 years ago

    Meanwhile, in reality, the top income earners pay the vast overwhelming majority of taxes. Don’t let little details like “reality” get in the way of some perfectly good class bigotry, though.

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    Harrison_Bergeron  over 11 years ago

    Say, wasn’t there a whole thing in the last election, about how people like this were being “disenfranchised” because they tend to vote Democrat? I guess it’s whatever you need it to be based on the moment, eh?

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    Harrison_Bergeron  over 11 years ago

    As to “perpetual poverty”, that is the result of minimum wage laws that destroy jobs for lower skilled workers, which were actually created to force black workers out of jobs, and the welfare state that rewards irresponsibility and laziness.

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    NickelAlloy  over 11 years ago

    Talk about nailing it on the head…

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    Rodent50  over 11 years ago

    The poor vote democrat:

    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_08.html

    http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/elections/how_groups_voted/voted_12.html

    And yes, that is the way to stay poor. Vote for the biggest handout, or for other short term gains like unsupportable minimum wages, and you will perpetuate poverty. It may be good for your short term self-interest, but it is bad for you and the rest of the country long term.

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    rockngolfer  over 11 years ago

    Somebody did a cartoon about 5 years ago that had a trailer with two young kids playing outside.The mother stuck her head out of the trailer door and shouted,“Levitra, Cialis, dinner is ready!”

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    wongmama  over 11 years ago

    This should be the Oklahoma,Arkansas,Texas,etc. state cartoons and/or slogans.

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    chromosome Premium Member over 11 years ago

    I’m pretty secure, too, also no kids. I always go out of my way to vote for school millages (among other things).

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    DGWillie  over 11 years ago

    Besides, you wanna get your share (or a little extra) of all that free stuff…

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    DGWillie  over 11 years ago

    Millionaires pay 86% of the total of all income taxes. How much higher does it have to go to be their “Fair Share?”

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    Rodent50  over 11 years ago

    Wiley, you do have my sympathies. Even though I am a rural-American and a fiscal conservative, so I should be insulted by this one, I do understand that we’re about the only ones left to target. We saw how many papers refused to print your cartoon that might have offended a certain religion, and it would be the same if you actually portrayed the real situations with poverty, violence or the overall economy. Intolerant leftward editors wouldn’t print it, and if they did they would be buried in hate from intolerant leftward readers, then targeted by the organized national pressure groups like OfA. So ya gotta do what ya gotta do, and in 21st century America that means slam conservatives, whites, and/or flyover country, or be banished to rightward internet sites, or be silenced.

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    R0Randy  over 11 years ago

    John F. Kennedy:

    “Ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country.”

    Today’s voters:

    “What’s in it for me?”

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    Dr_Fogg  over 11 years ago

    What is that on the grill. a Chihuahua?

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    nz4m60  over 11 years ago

    Well said. Tea Party take note.

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    nz4m60  over 11 years ago

    I just read through most of the comments and the right wing, willfully stupid people I live among just make me sick! You’ve wrecked the country. Keep your guns, hate, selfishness, meanness, backward view, support for the plutocrat, worship of big oil, big.pharma, big business, Fox News propaganda, brain dead Republicans, fear of everything, racism, destroy nature, and Any Rand, and shove it all up your self-lothing ass! I’m moving out of the country and enjoy watching you Neo-Huns from the north destroy the place. I’ve always wondered how the USA would end its place of greatness and hope in the world and now I know.

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    wroady  over 11 years ago

    Why do you people even read the comics if they piss you off that much?

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    JudeDog  over 11 years ago

    Ignorance = poverty = angst = homophobia = gun worship = political conservatism. Frustratingly, the cycle tends to replicate itself since children of ignorant parents tend to remain ignorant themselves. Breaking the cycle requires exposure to extraordinary teachers somewhere along the way, but those are few few and far between.

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    joegeethree  over 11 years ago

    Commenters can’t even agree to the politics of the couple in the cartoon. Hilarious!

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    pcolli  over 11 years ago

    As i’ve said before, elsewhere; I’m glad UK politics doesn’t arouse such arguments as US politics. We’ve learned to put up with the cr*p we get from government.

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    Hawthorne  over 11 years ago

    @They aren’t democrats. We all know marginalized families: unemployed, underemployed, working two (or three) minimum wage jobs to make the overheads … who are rabid TPers, who are certain the Dems are stealing their future. These people are marginally literate at best, and are sure Fox’s talking heads are telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

    I know people who run small businesses, which are not being supported by the GOP, but believe that because the GOP is ‘for business’, that they won’t be marginalized when their huge, subsidized mega corporations swallow them whole.

    Essentially, the bottom line is education, and there are a few people here who might be willing to take the time to view some very interesting interviews on the subject of American Education.

    The Iserbyt interviews:

    http://youtu.be/7dNwuzlJ0v0

    There are actually a dozen or so of these; different people have uploaded them in different chunks. It is worth a thinking person’s time to run them all down though; they are real eye openers. The whole interview is posted.

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    Hawthorne  over 11 years ago

    @ Bill – You got that right.

    The bottom line is educaton. It’s gone so far now that it is not easy to see where we could find instructors for teachers. In the last thirty-five years, as I raised and homeschooled my daughter, I have seen some truly appalling things come out of grade schools.

    It’s bad enough when they are simply not teaching children, but I have seen arithmetic papers (2 digits) MIScorrected (way to keep kids enthusiastic about math, eh?) Grammar, spelling and syntax – forget it. All the ‘English’ papers I was shown were positively riddled with every kind of error you can think of – all uncorrected.The way to literacy is to correct every grammar, spelling and factual error on the spot.

    Special interests do NOT belong in the schools either, and I include political issues in that category. When a friend’s son was in fourth grade, he was assigned an essay on the issues of the Nicaragua affair, which was, I think winding down around then. (mid eighties?) Since Nicaragua was a US fiasco, you may be sure that is not what the schools were teaching. They aren’t rewriting history; they are inventing it from whole cloth. It’s not only government, though, corporate interests, NPOs … they’ve all got their fingers in ‘education’. We have arrived at the place where ‘education’ in this country is just about pure indoctrination.

    Some of you will remember the essay contest which was conducted to select a grade school teacher for the Challenger ride. The Oregonian published a group of those essays, in a (brief) fit of concern over literacy levels in the country. Those essays, gleaned from all parts of the country, were no better than their, say, fourth grade students. Yes, I mean the teacher’s essays. Those were teachers who were employed to teach your children and mine. No, there was no huge scandal, hardly anyone seemed to notice.

    That’s been a long time ago now, and I have seen no reason to think that anything has improved education wise. It appears to have been steadily deteriorating ever since, and no sign of a turn around.

    Putting education right in this country looks like being the most difficult challenge of all, but there seems little motivation for it, with the exception of those on a few forums on the comic pages this last week or two. It’s late in the day, but never too late to make a start. Without a functional education system, we can kiss liberty and democracy goodbye.

    Oh, sorry. We already have. We really DO have our work cut out for us.

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    Brass Orchid Premium Member over 11 years ago

    Can’t you see? He’s black on the left side and white on the right side. I’m black on the right side and white on the left side. We are nothing alike!

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    pawpawbear  over 11 years ago

    I see too many who are deeply prejudiced, perhaps deeply disturbed. Both sides of this forum are taking poor people and raking them over the coals because they are poor and ignorant. None of you, who are doing this, have any empathy left. Wait until someone in your family, through circumstances beyond their control, are left with no options. Well, many of the poor you criticise are just such as these. They were laid off, injured or otherwise dropped from the mainstream. Many were people who thirty years ago came out of high school and took a decent job and built a life. They voted for whom they would and things looked good in America. It didn’t matter where they were from or what race they were or religion. We worked together and kept opinions to ourselves. Now, these undertrained individuals are needy and don’t know which way to turn. They far outnumber the, so called, underclass of welfare recipients. They simply want to get back to where they can take care of their families and have their own little patch to live on. I see many of the Left and the Right sneer at these people. I also know many of these people and they are not stupid, nor are they incapable of critical thinking. They may not be able to express their thoughts eloquently but they do express them. Perhaps all you geniuses need to learn how to listen critically. That’s why Romney lost. He forgot that the poor, underpaid and under-employed are still people and American citizens. And the left is just as guilty, painting all the white poor as ignorant, unwashed and too stupid to see how superior the average Democrat is. Both sides of this argument, you need to take a long look at yourselves and find a way to include all people in this Country we all claim to love.

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    Vonne Anton  over 11 years ago

    I hope a cable from that satellite dish goes to the outhouse…I’ll just beam most of these comments into there!

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    route66paul  over 11 years ago

    This is crazy. Someone takes a job hanging car doors in an automotive plant. They are paid the big bucks so that they won’t try to move up the ladder and so that they will be back next season to do the same job. The company only wants you to do that, nothing else.You work for 18 years, building seniority and getting put on the day shift. The layoffs aren’t as bad since you are older, and suddenly, they announce a plant closure – you get offered a job at another place, but now your house isn’t worth anything and you have to start over. Now, everyone says, “why didn’t you go to school and learn how to flip burgers?” or drive a taxi or work a Walmart -all part time?

    If our country is to survive, we must be able to build all the things we need as well as raise and grow all the food we need. If it takes protectionism, so be it. We should also require American shipping for a certain percentage of imports and not allow Truckers from other countries to operate on our highways with vehicles that are not built to the same standards as ours are. We also have to create zones that allow for a streamlined environmental impact reports – so that a small percentage of the public can not close a project down.

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    Varnes  over 11 years ago

    WCLamb, hey, I was feeling a little peckish…

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    Alms4Thorby  over 11 years ago

    RNC headquarters?

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    Caddy57  over 11 years ago

    I have no money and if O gets his way I’ll have less….but my home on a bad day looks better than this!

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    sacqueboutier  over 11 years ago

    Yep, keep voting Dumbocrap.

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    J Short  over 11 years ago

    Has so much time been wasted on so little?

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