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Non Sequitur by Wiley Miller for February 03, 2015
February 02, 2015
February 04, 2015
Transcript:
Woman in pink: You know, I shouldn't have to ask, but...do you feel lucky?
Road sign reads: CAUTION UNRESTRICTED CARTOONING ZONE AHEAD
Artist's sign reads: JE SUIS CHARLIE
Would that mean they were lucky if the cartoonists didnât notice them, or lucky if the cartoonists DID notice them? Or (third choice) if this wasnât the day that a terrorist group picked to punish this group of cartoonists?
I get that the whole âI am Charlieâ thing is to show support for âfreedom of the pressâ. Thatâs fine, and noble. I support freedom of the press. But, on the other hand, I cannot say it. I will support them but I will not identify myself with anyone who insults others for fun and profit. Call me a snob, but I do not want to be associated with that class of people.
What you call mockery is merely shining a light on the rigid absurdity of believes that are so all-consuming that people who do not meet your measure for purity must DIE. Any group of people who kills any who would oppose them, who displease them, who offend their sense of devotionâthose people deserve worse than to be mocked in illustration. Humor is a means of exposing truth in a fashion that isnât overbearing or insistent- that allows the viewer to come to the truth on their own terms after being disarmed by a laugh or an unexpected twist in representation. Other religions used to kill to make their point, but they donât anymore- and havenât for thousands of years. Itâs time for the last murderous group of devotees to evolve or be steamrolled by evolution.
And, letâs not forget that so-called âChristianâ religions still support war, regardless of the country they are in. All the proof one needs is to examine the efforts of the churches during WWI and WWII. Do they really live by what they preach?
Free press is one thing. Cheap shots are another. If they were taking issues with radical groups murdering innocent people, then thatâs free press. If they are going out of their way to piss people off by posting a picture of the prophet for no other reason than pissing people off, then thatâs a cheap shot. Just because itâs legal doesnât mean itâs a good idea.
One thing I donât get is Mohammed died centuries ago. In accordance with the Quran, no image was ever made of him. So how does anyone know what he looked like? How can anyone make a true image of him today? He could have looked like Alfred E. Newman. So why didnât the terrorists attack Mad Magazine?
This is one of the stories explaining how Mohammed received the laws that he taught, that later became the Quaran. But this isnât about the end of his lifeâŠ
As for the paradox of me insulting âthat classâ, I neither have fun nor make a profit doing it. Comprehend an entire statement before trying to pick it apart.
â@richardelguruââUntrueâ and âunprovenâ are two different things.â===@ Guilty That doesn't really make sense: I didn't say anything about proof. ==== goweeder said, about 3 hours ago (responding to another part) â@GuiltyBystander" âŠâŠFunny how you use the religious title of guru in your nom de post."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ever heard of satire?â====@ goweeder Good answer, however I wasnât being at all satirical or even klever: back in the ancient days of Vax Mail our sysadmin thought is was a funny name to give me and it just sort of stuck. But it is definitely satirical NOW!
The total number of people in the history of the world who have had the right to commit murder because they donât like a cartoon, a play, an opera, a movie, a TV show, or a dirty limerick? ZERO. Check back in 50,000 years and it will be the same zero.
The âlineâ I referred to as being crossed has nothing to do with what happened to them. It is a line between them and me, not between them and terrorists. I refuse to equate myself with idiots. They crossed into idiocy, and I refuse to go there.
@thebird55Defend your own right to be an idiot, PLEASE, we implore you! I get that you donât want to be âCharlieâ, any more than you want to be âMad Magazineâ or âThe New York TImes.â I get that you want to defend freedom of speech without identifying yourself with those who cross an imaginary line. BUT: people have committed murder and will continue to commit murder because they think people have crossed that line. The people who do so want their religion to be the Prince (which, as I hope we all know is wrong? Or maybe we donât know all that?) Any road, I personally agreed with your original post (and then things went south all over the place with comments and insults and so forthâŠâŠâŠ.)
neeeurothrush about 10 years ago
so thatâs where Wiley lives
Argythree about 10 years ago
Would that mean they were lucky if the cartoonists didnât notice them, or lucky if the cartoonists DID notice them? Or (third choice) if this wasnât the day that a terrorist group picked to punish this group of cartoonists?
Superfrog about 10 years ago
If youâre feeling lucky, you can draw first.
alviebird about 10 years ago
I get that the whole âI am Charlieâ thing is to show support for âfreedom of the pressâ. Thatâs fine, and noble. I support freedom of the press. But, on the other hand, I cannot say it. I will support them but I will not identify myself with anyone who insults others for fun and profit. Call me a snob, but I do not want to be associated with that class of people.
Say What? Premium Member about 10 years ago
The whole situation seems sketchy.
Reppr Premium Member about 10 years ago
I feel I am drawn to this.
tripwire45 about 10 years ago
âDo you feel lucky? Well, do you, punk?â Name that movie.
loveabulldesign about 10 years ago
What you call mockery is merely shining a light on the rigid absurdity of believes that are so all-consuming that people who do not meet your measure for purity must DIE. Any group of people who kills any who would oppose them, who displease them, who offend their sense of devotionâthose people deserve worse than to be mocked in illustration. Humor is a means of exposing truth in a fashion that isnât overbearing or insistent- that allows the viewer to come to the truth on their own terms after being disarmed by a laugh or an unexpected twist in representation. Other religions used to kill to make their point, but they donât anymore- and havenât for thousands of years. Itâs time for the last murderous group of devotees to evolve or be steamrolled by evolution.
Michael Jones about 10 years ago
And, letâs not forget that so-called âChristianâ religions still support war, regardless of the country they are in. All the proof one needs is to examine the efforts of the churches during WWI and WWII. Do they really live by what they preach?
Lawrence Stetz Premium Member about 10 years ago
God forbid you ask people to be polite and not intentionally insult each other. Youâd think thebird55 had asked you all to give up a kidney.
dabugger about 10 years ago
Oh oh, gotta think that overâŠ..
Fido (aka Felix Rex) about 10 years ago
The ârightâ answer has been posted, but I like this one even more. plastics
Foghorn about 10 years ago
@James: Mrs. Robinson talking to Ben in The Graduate?
Laugh out loud Funny! Good one.
Ogmeister about 10 years ago
Suggestion from Nehemiah 4:18: âEvery one of the artists had his sword girded at his side as he drew.â
Guilty Bystander about 10 years ago
âUntrueâ and âunprovenâ are two different things. Funny how you use the religious title of guru in your nom de post.
jahoody about 10 years ago
Has no one noticed the Wiley Bear sitting around the corner??
Godfreydaniel about 10 years ago
Most of the people killed by Muslim extremists are Muslims themselves. Wouldnât you love to see what kind of cartoons THEY drew?
damifid0 about 10 years ago
Re:> the toon- They may make fun of you.Those d4m cartoonists and their sharp pencils.Jokes. Peace. :)
Lawrence Stetz Premium Member about 10 years ago
I couldnât agree more.
dflak about 10 years ago
Free press is one thing. Cheap shots are another. If they were taking issues with radical groups murdering innocent people, then thatâs free press. If they are going out of their way to piss people off by posting a picture of the prophet for no other reason than pissing people off, then thatâs a cheap shot. Just because itâs legal doesnât mean itâs a good idea.
One thing I donât get is Mohammed died centuries ago. In accordance with the Quran, no image was ever made of him. So how does anyone know what he looked like? How can anyone make a true image of him today? He could have looked like Alfred E. Newman. So why didnât the terrorists attack Mad Magazine?
goweeder about 10 years ago
|Je suis so over this."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~How about the folks they murdered? Do you think they are âso over it?â
wes tnt about 10 years ago
Dirty Frickin HarryâŠâŠthe world needs more like him
Argy.Bargy2 about 10 years ago
This is one of the stories explaining how Mohammed received the laws that he taught, that later became the Quaran. But this isnât about the end of his lifeâŠ
alviebird about 10 years ago
As for the paradox of me insulting âthat classâ, I neither have fun nor make a profit doing it. Comprehend an entire statement before trying to pick it apart.
Lomax9er7 about 10 years ago
This might explain the commonality of jokes on the same daysâŠ
Richard Howland-Bolton Premium Member about 10 years ago
â@richardelguruââUntrueâ and âunprovenâ are two different things.â===@ Guilty That doesn't really make sense: I didn't say anything about proof. ==== goweeder said, about 3 hours ago (responding to another part) â@GuiltyBystander" âŠâŠFunny how you use the religious title of guru in your nom de post."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Ever heard of satire?â====@ goweeder Good answer, however I wasnât being at all satirical or even klever: back in the ancient days of Vax Mail our sysadmin thought is was a funny name to give me and it just sort of stuck. But it is definitely satirical NOW!
alviebird about 10 years ago
I guess that should have been âwhomââŠ
I canât tell you exactly where the line is, but Charlie crossed it.
Godfreydaniel about 10 years ago
The total number of people in the history of the world who have had the right to commit murder because they donât like a cartoon, a play, an opera, a movie, a TV show, or a dirty limerick? ZERO. Check back in 50,000 years and it will be the same zero.
alviebird about 10 years ago
The âlineâ I referred to as being crossed has nothing to do with what happened to them. It is a line between them and me, not between them and terrorists. I refuse to equate myself with idiots. They crossed into idiocy, and I refuse to go there.
Now, do you get it?
alviebird about 10 years ago
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, I will defend their right to be idiots.
alviebird about 10 years ago
I use too many commasâŠ
Godfreydaniel about 10 years ago
@thebird55Defend your own right to be an idiot, PLEASE, we implore you! I get that you donât want to be âCharlieâ, any more than you want to be âMad Magazineâ or âThe New York TImes.â I get that you want to defend freedom of speech without identifying yourself with those who cross an imaginary line. BUT: people have committed murder and will continue to commit murder because they think people have crossed that line. The people who do so want their religion to be the Prince (which, as I hope we all know is wrong? Or maybe we donât know all that?) Any road, I personally agreed with your original post (and then things went south all over the place with comments and insults and so forthâŠâŠâŠ.)
HowieL about 10 years ago
One personâs sacred cow is anotherâs cheeseburger. I said that.
alviebird about 10 years ago
mmmâŠ. more like a bull pieâŠ