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There may be only four copies of the book but the idea has been use in fiction several times.
For example, the 1976 Clue Club cartoon used a variant of this very idea in âThe Vanishing Train Caperâ. The twist there was there were forward and back guard trains and the side line had been laid and then dismantled. The plan was to melt down the gold bars and pass the off as nuggets out of a nearby gold mine.
In another show (1960s I think) a special device was used to defeat the autobreaking system and the car in question was decoupled in the middle of the train and a decline was used to recouple the two parts of the train after the car was shifted to a sideline.
Point is the IDEA has been used in fiction and somebody bright enough could make it a reality.
So, our âmild-manneredâ detectives are headed to the library. The idea may have been used several times, but we are looking here at an exact copy of the 1924 crime, which is apparently clearly road-mapped in that book.
Itâd be easy enough to cut the car off when the train is stopped and has the slack neutral or more bunched than stretched. All that would be needed would be to close the angle cock on the equipment thatâs leaving, lift the pin, and bye-bye standing car, without the crew ever knowing. Thatâs how yard switching with standard equipment works; handbrake on what youâre leaving, close the angle on your side, lift the pin, and POP! You still have all the air on your side â itâs the standing car that goes into emergency because the angle cock wasnât closed.
Side note: The wreck of train 173, the Federal Express, was caused by a poorly-designed relationship between the angle cock and the car body of the third car â normal bouncing around would knock the angle cock closed, leaving the rear 13 coachesâ brakes in whatever position they were in when the angle closed. The father of a fellow railroad retiree was the one who in the course of the investigation discovered why the angle cock on the third car closed by itself and resulted in the Federal only having air on the engine and the first three coaches, which wasnât nearly enough to keep the train from crashing through and winding up with the engine in the basement of Washington DC Union Station. Maybe there was something deliberately bent to knock the car ahead of the gold carâs angle cock closed, making it that much easier to cut that car off undetected?
I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin & I would love to see Joe & Mike send Dick & Sam to Green Bay in this strip. What athrill it would be. Maybe they could take a tour of Lambeaustadium while they are there. I guess I will have justimagine it for myself. Anyone else near here??
Todayâs panels set in the train tunnel have a decidedly film noir-ish cast, which fits the puzzlement faced by the MCU. I hope they find a copy of Abe Ongoâs book and are able to trace what Jimmy Choo Shooz and his gang did (I think Iâm safe in assuming that it was Jimmy who pulled off this gold car heist)âŚ.
I donât know the policy in Tracyâs city, but all the public libraries Iâve ever used donât keep records of who borrows what. If this library still uses the card-in-the-pocket system, theyâre set. If checkout is electronic now, though, I think they have to hope the book is still checked out to the train robbers.
By the way my bride told me that it is called Stony Brook Farm not âcreekâ. My Brother in law Roger Cogar works for Peter K in North Salem (I got him that job back in 1997 I think) ((the year before the Mets played the Yankees in the WS)) (((I think it was just before the Mets & Moky Wilson, Strawberry, Doc Gooden, Ron Darlene, Gary Carter (catcher) killed Boston Red Socks))) and I will ask him what they call that business now a dazs. Back in around 2000 PK sold that business but still owns it (however that works??!?) Peter and his wife Jackie are getting older now but they (he) still works (if that is what the multimillionaires call it) and I do not know his financial situation is but he did have to go âback to workâ for some reason. When I get low on money it means I have less than a hundred bucks (or less). but when those folks get low on money it means that they have less than one bazillion dollars (hypothetically speaking of course) I also mentioned Jack Manis yesterday and he owns a 12 story building two blocks from the Empire State building right downtown. I was at his building only one time. Jack M. is a real stinker and not a nice guy like Peter K.⌠anyway I said all of that to say Iâll find out some info to help with the fishing expedition..ole DT is looking dapper in panel one, wouldnât you say?
Waitâdoesnât Owenâs owning one of only four copies of the book make him a suspect too? It wouldnât be the first time a criminal tried to get close to the investigationâŚ
Hey JPuzzleWhiz, thanks for that little refresher. Not too long ago I watched an ESPN, Bill Buckner interview and he told how that he had suffered because of that error. It was so sad but he did say that now days things are better. It had to have been in 1986 that I was referring to because we left New York in 1997.
Some have asked avenger09, the reason heâs not here, right on time (?)Baseball is tiring - itâs Zzzzing time, so tomorrow - âperked upâ, he may do his Rhyme (?)
While Tracyâs âcogitatingâ up and down, now 4 days on a plan,Yet, if the story would run, the commentary canExamining rail lines and tunnels, while looking for ClewsBut gathering, only Coal dust - that dirty his shoesUnremarkable, tedious, and run of the millThrough rubble walls, by train rails, theyâre âtalkingâ still . . .
Bringing back 2009 âblightingâ memories, of Mr. Pops - that ClownWeeks in a Circus Ring Tracy floundered, just standing - his ground
So bereft of informed views and clews they canât findNo cigarettes, for calm, Sam thinking ⌠Anodyne !
But Dentonâs glasses do shine, in dark or at nightReflecting some âideasâ, that might solve their plightSo now, itâs off to the Library, to find a bookOn other train robbers (and a how) of the Gold they took ?But hereâs a tip, a step ahead, a - new point of View âŚLook for a Man like the Trains, the âcluesâ - Choo Choo !
3 zip Baby!!!Against the youth from church. Taught those whippersnappers a thing or two! Of course theyâre not hurting as much as I am right now! LOL!
They could then consult the Library of Congress, who may have it on computer.
The whole point is that the book is not on computer. There are only four copies and none of them is really accessible to the criminal except the one in the local library. Thatâs what makes it a possible route of investigation.
Uh-oh! Youse guys who are maintaining the answer lies in one of the four identified booksâŚâŚ You just got bested by Stilldamatt and me! While researching the subject, SDM pulled out the instructions in his Lionel train set and there, written in English, Spanish, French, Japanese, Vietnamese, and German was a section titled âHow To Couple and Uncouple The Carsâ. So the list of possible culprits grows!
RightâŚâŚ.theyâd borrow the book under their own name. Smart enough to steal a billion in gold, but too dumb to steal a library bookâŚ.whatâs wrong with this picture, lol?
cpalmeresq almost 10 years ago
Honestly didnât notice it until now, but I like Samâs toothpick!
AnyFace almost 10 years ago
To The Book Depository!
cpalmeresq almost 10 years ago
Where are you, av09? Iâm usually am only 1 comment ahead of you!
AnyFace almost 10 years ago
âAbe Ongoâ is apparently another âDerby Duganâ reference.
Vista Bill Raley and Comet⢠almost 10 years ago
Good morning guys!
AnyFace almost 10 years ago
Hiya, VistaBill!
Starman1948 almost 10 years ago
Good morning Tracy fans. The library copy and/or the museum copy may be missing. Have an upbeat day everyone.
Ray Toler almost 10 years ago
Abe Ongo?
http://cafepinfold.com/category/comics-writings-lectures/
Maximara almost 10 years ago
There may be only four copies of the book but the idea has been use in fiction several times.
For example, the 1976 Clue Club cartoon used a variant of this very idea in âThe Vanishing Train Caperâ. The twist there was there were forward and back guard trains and the side line had been laid and then dismantled. The plan was to melt down the gold bars and pass the off as nuggets out of a nearby gold mine.
In another show (1960s I think) a special device was used to defeat the autobreaking system and the car in question was decoupled in the middle of the train and a decline was used to recouple the two parts of the train after the car was shifted to a sideline.
Point is the IDEA has been used in fiction and somebody bright enough could make it a reality.
Neil Wick almost 10 years ago
So, our âmild-manneredâ detectives are headed to the library. The idea may have been used several times, but we are looking here at an exact copy of the 1924 crime, which is apparently clearly road-mapped in that book.
KaiserFrazer67 almost 10 years ago
Odd that the stripâs writers would put a fictional book in a museum that actually existsâŚ
RailScout Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Good morning, group!
Itâd be easy enough to cut the car off when the train is stopped and has the slack neutral or more bunched than stretched. All that would be needed would be to close the angle cock on the equipment thatâs leaving, lift the pin, and bye-bye standing car, without the crew ever knowing. Thatâs how yard switching with standard equipment works; handbrake on what youâre leaving, close the angle on your side, lift the pin, and POP! You still have all the air on your side â itâs the standing car that goes into emergency because the angle cock wasnât closed.
Side note: The wreck of train 173, the Federal Express, was caused by a poorly-designed relationship between the angle cock and the car body of the third car â normal bouncing around would knock the angle cock closed, leaving the rear 13 coachesâ brakes in whatever position they were in when the angle closed. The father of a fellow railroad retiree was the one who in the course of the investigation discovered why the angle cock on the third car closed by itself and resulted in the Federal only having air on the engine and the first three coaches, which wasnât nearly enough to keep the train from crashing through and winding up with the engine in the basement of Washington DC Union Station. Maybe there was something deliberately bent to knock the car ahead of the gold carâs angle cock closed, making it that much easier to cut that car off undetected?
MJKesquire almost 10 years ago
I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin & I would love to see Joe & Mike send Dick & Sam to Green Bay in this strip. What athrill it would be. Maybe they could take a tour of Lambeaustadium while they are there. I guess I will have justimagine it for myself. Anyone else near here??
Sisyphos almost 10 years ago
Todayâs panels set in the train tunnel have a decidedly film noir-ish cast, which fits the puzzlement faced by the MCU. I hope they find a copy of Abe Ongoâs book and are able to trace what Jimmy Choo Shooz and his gang did (I think Iâm safe in assuming that it was Jimmy who pulled off this gold car heist)âŚ.
sixam almost 10 years ago
Here is the link to the Banachek episode that JonahHex mentioned. Skip to the 1 hour 5 minute mark for the solution.
SKJAM! Premium Member almost 10 years ago
Happy National Library Week! (April 12-18, 2015) I went to the library and took out a volume of Little Orphan Annie strips.
strickmaedel almost 10 years ago
I donât know the policy in Tracyâs city, but all the public libraries Iâve ever used donât keep records of who borrows what. If this library still uses the card-in-the-pocket system, theyâre set. If checkout is electronic now, though, I think they have to hope the book is still checked out to the train robbers.
johnrussco almost 10 years ago
By the way my bride told me that it is called Stony Brook Farm not âcreekâ. My Brother in law Roger Cogar works for Peter K in North Salem (I got him that job back in 1997 I think) ((the year before the Mets played the Yankees in the WS)) (((I think it was just before the Mets & Moky Wilson, Strawberry, Doc Gooden, Ron Darlene, Gary Carter (catcher) killed Boston Red Socks))) and I will ask him what they call that business now a dazs. Back in around 2000 PK sold that business but still owns it (however that works??!?) Peter and his wife Jackie are getting older now but they (he) still works (if that is what the multimillionaires call it) and I do not know his financial situation is but he did have to go âback to workâ for some reason. When I get low on money it means I have less than a hundred bucks (or less). but when those folks get low on money it means that they have less than one bazillion dollars (hypothetically speaking of course) I also mentioned Jack Manis yesterday and he owns a 12 story building two blocks from the Empire State building right downtown. I was at his building only one time. Jack M. is a real stinker and not a nice guy like Peter K.⌠anyway I said all of that to say Iâll find out some info to help with the fishing expedition..ole DT is looking dapper in panel one, wouldnât you say?
William Neal McPheeters almost 10 years ago
Love the Derby Dugan books ⌠Tom DeHaven is an excellent writer. Go to Amazon and purchase his books!!! Youâll thank me later. (sorry Mr. Monk)
MJ Premium Member almost 10 years ago
I wonder if he meant AUTObiography.
Starman1948 almost 10 years ago
@Maximara and RailScout: thanks for the good info. Be blest my friends.
crobinson019 almost 10 years ago
Waitâdoesnât Owenâs owning one of only four copies of the book make him a suspect too? It wouldnât be the first time a criminal tried to get close to the investigationâŚ
Jelfring Premium Member almost 10 years ago
The artwork is breathtaking. I love the glowing yellow in Tracyâs hat and coat.
johnrussco almost 10 years ago
Hey JPuzzleWhiz, thanks for that little refresher. Not too long ago I watched an ESPN, Bill Buckner interview and he told how that he had suffered because of that error. It was so sad but he did say that now days things are better. It had to have been in 1986 that I was referring to because we left New York in 1997.
the too late song almost 10 years ago
Outstanding panels today. Even the blue highlights in Samâs hair. Great job.
SYDNEY PHILLIPS almost 10 years ago
Some have asked avenger09, the reason heâs not here, right on time (?)Baseball is tiring - itâs Zzzzing time, so tomorrow - âperked upâ, he may do his Rhyme (?)
While Tracyâs âcogitatingâ up and down, now 4 days on a plan,Yet, if the story would run, the commentary canExamining rail lines and tunnels, while looking for ClewsBut gathering, only Coal dust - that dirty his shoesUnremarkable, tedious, and run of the millThrough rubble walls, by train rails, theyâre âtalkingâ still . . .
Bringing back 2009 âblightingâ memories, of Mr. Pops - that ClownWeeks in a Circus Ring Tracy floundered, just standing - his ground
So bereft of informed views and clews they canât findNo cigarettes, for calm, Sam thinking ⌠Anodyne !
But Dentonâs glasses do shine, in dark or at nightReflecting some âideasâ, that might solve their plightSo now, itâs off to the Library, to find a bookOn other train robbers (and a how) of the Gold they took ?But hereâs a tip, a step ahead, a - new point of View âŚLook for a Man like the Trains, the âcluesâ - Choo Choo !
abdullahbaba999 almost 10 years ago
I Love a library visitâŚeven if I can Google most things i need to knowâŚsomebody robbed the Glendale train..
avenger09 almost 10 years ago
Did you win?
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3 zip Baby!!!Against the youth from church. Taught those whippersnappers a thing or two! Of course theyâre not hurting as much as I am right now! LOL!
Neil Wick almost 10 years ago
They could then consult the Library of Congress, who may have it on computer.
The whole point is that the book is not on computer. There are only four copies and none of them is really accessible to the criminal except the one in the local library. Thatâs what makes it a possible route of investigation.Morrow Cummings almost 10 years ago
Uh-oh! Youse guys who are maintaining the answer lies in one of the four identified booksâŚâŚ You just got bested by Stilldamatt and me! While researching the subject, SDM pulled out the instructions in his Lionel train set and there, written in English, Spanish, French, Japanese, Vietnamese, and German was a section titled âHow To Couple and Uncouple The Carsâ. So the list of possible culprits grows!
willy007 almost 10 years ago
Just got back in town. Statonâs art has been awesome this week! Like thatâs a big news flash or somepin.
Starman1948 almost 10 years ago
@Sydney Phillips: a very good poem. Be well my friend.
fredville almost 10 years ago
RightâŚâŚ.theyâd borrow the book under their own name. Smart enough to steal a billion in gold, but too dumb to steal a library bookâŚ.whatâs wrong with this picture, lol?
celeste0416 almost 10 years ago
i am in a library right now.
celeste0416 almost 10 years ago
this is cool