This reminds me of the sculpture of Laocoon and his sons fighting the serpent. I don’t know how to extend that metaphor, but that’s what first popped into my mind.
Yeah, like those job numbers did when Bush cut all those taxes throughout the majority of the decade…where job growth plummeted compared to his his three predecessors.
Some of the highest periods of the country’s economic prosperity occurred when tax rates were much higher than they are now.
The idea that tax cuts = job growth is a false causality.
When the Democrats pass a new Tax cut (the Republicans and President of the previous administration signed a bit that is set to EXPIRE this month)… that is.
Tie any future tax cuts (or exemption from tax hikes) to actual creation of jobs, instead of cutting taxes and hoping they’ll create jobs out of the goodness of their little hearts. Put the burden on them for a change…
It isn’t just the “cuts”, but the complexity of the code- which is mostly EXEMPTIONS- just eliminate the exemptions, and subsidies to ALL “industries”- like agriculture, defense, grazing, mining, railroads, oil and gas production, energy, alternate energy, and well, politicians.
If the tax cuts worked, we’d have jobs now. We HAVE those tax cuts now.
Nobody who does math thinks tax cuts for the rich will create jobs. Jobs will be created when there’s demand for products. Demand for products comes from the middle class and the poor. The rich tend to have what they need already.
LIberals did… actually. In case you haven’t figured it out, during the higher tax period of the Clinton administration, when we created 22 million jobs, the reason we didn’t create MORE jobs during the lower tax period of the Bush administration (only 3 million) is because of Liberals. Entirely because of them. The reasoning doesn’t have to be there, it’s just simply the way it is. *
spyderred, when Jade ends her posts with an asterisk, it means she’s being facetious. Some of us have been trying to talk her out of it, because it’s too often missed. Enough here profess such sentiments in earnest that she’s often mistaken for one of them.
Corporate income this year has reached it’s highest since records were calculated. Yet all that wealth has not produced new jobs. That is what tax cuts for the rich gets you. Richer rich.
The Repubs have thrown down the gauntlet and admitted that their number 1 goal isn’t creating jobs or boosting the economy: Their NUMBER 1 goal is defeating Obama in 2012. Don’t expect them to do ANYTHING to help the unemployed or the economy or education or energy policy. They intend to block anything that might improve things and potentially make Obama look good.
If you’ve enjoyed the jobless rate and the recession since 2007 (thanks to Bush-dick), you’ll love the next two years.
Punk is a penguin, not a duck. Wikipedia: “His trademark is a small penguin character named Punk, who is often seen making a sarcastic comment about the subject of the panel.”
^ Church: It just somehow triggered an image of Mad,Mad World for me. Perhaps I’ve confused the W image of the trees and another movie with the above. Meh
If anyone would know it would have been you, so thanks for looking & demystifying (or is that debunking?).
As a member of the middle class, I never saw one penny of the Bush tax cuts. The only folks who benefited from them were the upper 1% of the country. And, most of them live offshore and don’t know that the rest of us exist.
fritzoid Premium Member over 13 years ago
This reminds me of the sculpture of Laocoon and his sons fighting the serpent. I don’t know how to extend that metaphor, but that’s what first popped into my mind.
ComicsStudies over 13 years ago
Yeah, like those job numbers did when Bush cut all those taxes throughout the majority of the decade…where job growth plummeted compared to his his three predecessors.
Some of the highest periods of the country’s economic prosperity occurred when tax rates were much higher than they are now.
The idea that tax cuts = job growth is a false causality.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
When the Democrats pass a new Tax cut (the Republicans and President of the previous administration signed a bit that is set to EXPIRE this month)… that is.
fritzoid Premium Member over 13 years ago
Tie any future tax cuts (or exemption from tax hikes) to actual creation of jobs, instead of cutting taxes and hoping they’ll create jobs out of the goodness of their little hearts. Put the burden on them for a change…
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
It isn’t just the “cuts”, but the complexity of the code- which is mostly EXEMPTIONS- just eliminate the exemptions, and subsidies to ALL “industries”- like agriculture, defense, grazing, mining, railroads, oil and gas production, energy, alternate energy, and well, politicians.
ARodney over 13 years ago
If the tax cuts worked, we’d have jobs now. We HAVE those tax cuts now.
Nobody who does math thinks tax cuts for the rich will create jobs. Jobs will be created when there’s demand for products. Demand for products comes from the middle class and the poor. The rich tend to have what they need already.
Jaedabee Premium Member over 13 years ago
“Instead, you have a collapsed economy.”
LIberals did… actually. In case you haven’t figured it out, during the higher tax period of the Clinton administration, when we created 22 million jobs, the reason we didn’t create MORE jobs during the lower tax period of the Bush administration (only 3 million) is because of Liberals. Entirely because of them. The reasoning doesn’t have to be there, it’s just simply the way it is. *Spyderred over 13 years ago
Jade that is dishonest reasoning - factually incorrect and moored on an unidentified catagorization.
fritzoid Premium Member over 13 years ago
spyderred, when Jade ends her posts with an asterisk, it means she’s being facetious. Some of us have been trying to talk her out of it, because it’s too often missed. Enough here profess such sentiments in earnest that she’s often mistaken for one of them.
steelerman66 over 13 years ago
bring the jobs back to AMERICA and we will no longer be theUNITED STATES of CHINA
benbrilling over 13 years ago
Corporate income this year has reached it’s highest since records were calculated. Yet all that wealth has not produced new jobs. That is what tax cuts for the rich gets you. Richer rich.
Bluejayz over 13 years ago
The Repubs have thrown down the gauntlet and admitted that their number 1 goal isn’t creating jobs or boosting the economy: Their NUMBER 1 goal is defeating Obama in 2012. Don’t expect them to do ANYTHING to help the unemployed or the economy or education or energy policy. They intend to block anything that might improve things and potentially make Obama look good.
If you’ve enjoyed the jobless rate and the recession since 2007 (thanks to Bush-dick), you’ll love the next two years.
egreshko over 13 years ago
You can cut my taxes, you can raise my taxes. It makes no difference. I don’t have a job, so I don’t make any money. So, I don’t pay taxes anyway. :-)
comYics over 13 years ago
Polishing the titanic.
OmqR-IV.0 over 13 years ago
I was thinking it’s a poster from Mad, Mad, Mad World but more likely ChurchWR will correct me.
Thomas R. Williams over 13 years ago
*jmattadams said, about 20 hours ago
Oh, naive little ducky!*
Punk is a penguin, not a duck. Wikipedia: “His trademark is a small penguin character named Punk, who is often seen making a sarcastic comment about the subject of the panel.”
OmqR-IV.0 over 13 years ago
^ Church: It just somehow triggered an image of Mad,Mad World for me. Perhaps I’ve confused the W image of the trees and another movie with the above. Meh If anyone would know it would have been you, so thanks for looking & demystifying (or is that debunking?).
lindz.coop Premium Member over 13 years ago
As a member of the middle class, I never saw one penny of the Bush tax cuts. The only folks who benefited from them were the upper 1% of the country. And, most of them live offshore and don’t know that the rest of us exist.