I can look at rap and appreciate the effort, skill and craft that goes into creating it, and acknowledge it as a legitimate art form… that I don’t particularly like. Kinda like a Rothko painting.
It’s incredibly liberating to realize that you don’t have to like something just because it’s art.
I’m with Puddleglum on this one. Rap is a particular art form growing out of a particular cultural framework which has now expanded and been taken in by the larger society. I suppose you could call it a cross between poetry and performance art with a musical soundtrack in the background. Straight music? Maybe not so much.
And like Puddleglum, acknowledging it as a valid art form does not mean I have to like it. Sort of how I feel about country music. Appreciate it as a unique American musical form but I sure cannot listen to it.
Anyone who says all rap is garbage needs to see The Roots live. When I saw them, they did a cover of “Sweet Child of Mine” that made Guns and Roses sound like Josie and the Pussycats.
To label all music of a single genre as “bad”, “trash”, etc. is simply discrimination - there will often be songs and music you do like out of any genre, but you have to find them.
I’m not big into rap either but there are decent songs in that area and they can indeed qualify as art (subjective as art is) - the fact that they evoke such a strong reaction, however negative, is a sign of that in itself.
The most delicious irony here is that often the same people who complain about rap not being music then have to gall to argue that some non-rapping guys yelling and cussing about the same kind of issues is indeed music. The difference? Probably less effort went into the latter because they don’t bother to rhyme their lyrics as part of the genre - meaning rap generally takes more effort and skill.
Bargrove over 13 years ago
But we’d like to see it going.
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
Who wanted to. Yes, I’m still waiting to see it go, Bargrove. With much anticipation.
Yukoner over 13 years ago
The sooner the better. I refuse ti acknowledge it as real music.
kreole over 13 years ago
It’s not real music…in fact, it really is just noise.
RogueLeader over 13 years ago
Then again, nobody saw Rock and Roll or Jazz coming either.
The trick always seems to be finding the treasure among the trash.
dugharry over 13 years ago
Rap is too much trash!!
Elaine Rosco Premium Member over 13 years ago
ok…let’s just wrap this up!
alan.gurka over 13 years ago
I’ll bet you didn’t see this Recession coming either.
Dkram over 13 years ago
oh boy!
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puddleglum1066 over 13 years ago
I can look at rap and appreciate the effort, skill and craft that goes into creating it, and acknowledge it as a legitimate art form… that I don’t particularly like. Kinda like a Rothko painting.
It’s incredibly liberating to realize that you don’t have to like something just because it’s art.
Sandfan over 13 years ago
“Rap Music” is an oxymoron.
ShadowBeast Premium Member over 13 years ago
Rap doesn’t even really ryme and when it does the words are made up.
Yukoneric over 13 years ago
RAP should just say, “That’s a wrap!”
lovesdos over 13 years ago
what’s rap music?
TexTech over 13 years ago
I’m with Puddleglum on this one. Rap is a particular art form growing out of a particular cultural framework which has now expanded and been taken in by the larger society. I suppose you could call it a cross between poetry and performance art with a musical soundtrack in the background. Straight music? Maybe not so much.
And like Puddleglum, acknowledging it as a valid art form does not mean I have to like it. Sort of how I feel about country music. Appreciate it as a unique American musical form but I sure cannot listen to it.
Nighthawks Premium Member over 13 years ago
more importantly, I didn’t see it staying
dahawk over 13 years ago
I expect to see some new rapper come along with the name, “Plain Brown”. Then we will know the rap fad is over.
ilsapadu over 13 years ago
I didn’t see that answer coming and it was hi-larious.
Dtroutma over 13 years ago
Fussing over spilt melody?
WaitingMan over 13 years ago
Anyone who says all rap is garbage needs to see The Roots live. When I saw them, they did a cover of “Sweet Child of Mine” that made Guns and Roses sound like Josie and the Pussycats.
GROG Premium Member over 13 years ago
I can’t appreciate or even respect rap as an art form.
BigChiefDesoto over 13 years ago
I suppose if I mentioned Wurlitzer theatre pipe organs, nobody would know what I’m talking about. So I won’t.
tcambeul over 13 years ago
rap-music is an oxy-moron.
RogueLeader over 13 years ago
To label all music of a single genre as “bad”, “trash”, etc. is simply discrimination - there will often be songs and music you do like out of any genre, but you have to find them.
I’m not big into rap either but there are decent songs in that area and they can indeed qualify as art (subjective as art is) - the fact that they evoke such a strong reaction, however negative, is a sign of that in itself.
The most delicious irony here is that often the same people who complain about rap not being music then have to gall to argue that some non-rapping guys yelling and cussing about the same kind of issues is indeed music. The difference? Probably less effort went into the latter because they don’t bother to rhyme their lyrics as part of the genre - meaning rap generally takes more effort and skill.