I mean, you’re not talking about anyone from the Republican Party of Trump and certainly NO ONE who was an architect of the invasion of Afghanistan, replaced by the invasion of Iraq, or the waterboarding is not torture meme, right? And NO ONE who appears on Fox “news”, right?
THAT would be almost as bad as admitting that ‘trickle down’ never trickles any direction but toward offshore secret accounts.
After Vietnam I never heard anyone saying “Kill A Commie for Christ” . . .many who had supported the war later said it was a mistake. It was election time as I recall if my memory serves me right. Remember when Vietnam vets said, “We’re Not Fonda Jane”? and bone spurs on somebody else’s X-ray could keep you out of the draft. People forgive, but never forget.
Contrition from the January 6 insurrectionists, and their congressional enablers, would be welcome.
We Underestimated Trump Before. It Didn’t Go Well. By Jamelle Bouie — Sometimes, and much to our detriment, we find real events are simply too outlandish to take seriously. Many professional Republicans, for example, initially dismissed the movement to “Stop the Steal” as a ridiculous stunt. Election law expert Rick Hasen has written in a new paper on the risk of election subversion, “The United States faces a serious risk that the 2024 presidential election, and other future U.S. elections, will not be conducted fairly, and that the candidates taking office will not reflect the free choices made by eligible voters under previously announced election rules.” Despite the danger at hand, there doesn’t appear to be much urgency among congressional Democrats to do anything. It’s almost as if, to the people with the power to act, the prospect of a Trumpified Republican Party with the will to subvert the next presidential election and the power to do it is one of those events that just seems a little too out there.
It is here that I am reminded of a previous existential threat to American democracy and how one group of Americans struggled to accept the unthinkable even as it unfolded right before their eyes. On Nov. 6, 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected president. Republicans believed the South needed the Union to maintain slavery, there was no way the slaveholding South could sustain itself on its own. Their confidence was misplaced.
There is nothing, yet, that divides us as starkly as slavery did in the 1840s and 1850s. It is impossible to say where we stand in relation to our own crisis. If there is anything our history tells us, it’s that everything looks settled until one day it isn’t. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/opinion/trump-2024-election.html
First off, changing one’s mind with further experience and personal evolution is damned as “flipflopping” in the media, especially RWNJ media. Second, you’re claiming liberals never forgive? Seriously?
All theoretical. Actual sincere contrition was eliminated completely in the last 10 years. Someone admitting that they are wrong is heresy now. So don’t worry about forgiveness…no apologies will ever happen again…at least in the remaining time of the United States. And if anyone tries, they will destroyed and discredited by their own.
The ultimate act of forgiveness was uttered from a cross over 2000 years ago, that is the standard, we should seek to obtain. Not treating an opinion that differs from yours as wronhing you somehow. Has someone that disagrees with your politics actually wronged you?
“If there is no forgiveness, then there can be no redemption and no progress.”
Not so. One may begin one’s atonement before one has been forgiven. If nothing else, it demonstrates true contrition and sincerity. If forgiveness comes thereafter so much the better, but one should not wait for an apology to be accepted before working to right one’s wrongs.
$8 trillion and thousands of lives……………………….meanwhile the same “contritioners” are balking at the budget that seeks fixing people and our climate over war.
danketaz Premium Member about 3 years ago
It may not be your place to.
Wlly Blly about 3 years ago
Guess it matters what the offence was.
Sanspareil about 3 years ago
Stantis does his usual switcheroo of the liberal character acting as the trumplican character!
Rather pathetic but not surprising!
braindead Premium Member about 3 years ago
One person, Stantis?
Certainly not a Republican*, right?
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I mean, you’re not talking about anyone from the Republican Party of Trump and certainly NO ONE who was an architect of the invasion of Afghanistan, replaced by the invasion of Iraq, or the waterboarding is not torture meme, right? And NO ONE who appears on Fox “news”, right?
THAT would be almost as bad as admitting that ‘trickle down’ never trickles any direction but toward offshore secret accounts.
The Love of Money is . . . about 3 years ago
After Vietnam I never heard anyone saying “Kill A Commie for Christ” . . .many who had supported the war later said it was a mistake. It was election time as I recall if my memory serves me right. Remember when Vietnam vets said, “We’re Not Fonda Jane”? and bone spurs on somebody else’s X-ray could keep you out of the draft. People forgive, but never forget.
nosirrom about 3 years ago
Some things are not forgivable.
Carl Premium Member about 3 years ago
Discerning contrition as opposed to band wagon hopping or surfing the media wave of the day is the difficulty.
Iseau about 3 years ago
Winslow is on his way to bury he’s head in the sand . While Carmen forgets what they were talking about. Forgiveness maybe, Forgetting Never.
William Robbins Premium Member about 3 years ago
Contrition from the January 6 insurrectionists, and their congressional enablers, would be welcome.
We Underestimated Trump Before. It Didn’t Go Well. By Jamelle Bouie — Sometimes, and much to our detriment, we find real events are simply too outlandish to take seriously. Many professional Republicans, for example, initially dismissed the movement to “Stop the Steal” as a ridiculous stunt. Election law expert Rick Hasen has written in a new paper on the risk of election subversion, “The United States faces a serious risk that the 2024 presidential election, and other future U.S. elections, will not be conducted fairly, and that the candidates taking office will not reflect the free choices made by eligible voters under previously announced election rules.” Despite the danger at hand, there doesn’t appear to be much urgency among congressional Democrats to do anything. It’s almost as if, to the people with the power to act, the prospect of a Trumpified Republican Party with the will to subvert the next presidential election and the power to do it is one of those events that just seems a little too out there.
It is here that I am reminded of a previous existential threat to American democracy and how one group of Americans struggled to accept the unthinkable even as it unfolded right before their eyes. On Nov. 6, 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected president. Republicans believed the South needed the Union to maintain slavery, there was no way the slaveholding South could sustain itself on its own. Their confidence was misplaced.
There is nothing, yet, that divides us as starkly as slavery did in the 1840s and 1850s. It is impossible to say where we stand in relation to our own crisis. If there is anything our history tells us, it’s that everything looks settled until one day it isn’t. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/28/opinion/trump-2024-election.html
Darsan54 Premium Member about 3 years ago
First off, changing one’s mind with further experience and personal evolution is damned as “flipflopping” in the media, especially RWNJ media. Second, you’re claiming liberals never forgive? Seriously?
StackableContainers about 3 years ago
All theoretical. Actual sincere contrition was eliminated completely in the last 10 years. Someone admitting that they are wrong is heresy now. So don’t worry about forgiveness…no apologies will ever happen again…at least in the remaining time of the United States. And if anyone tries, they will destroyed and discredited by their own.
Bookworm about 3 years ago
I’m with Carmen on this one, with one additional provision; “Actual contrition and a sincere apology” followed by a real attempt to set things right.
RobinHood about 3 years ago
The ultimate act of forgiveness was uttered from a cross over 2000 years ago, that is the standard, we should seek to obtain. Not treating an opinion that differs from yours as wronhing you somehow. Has someone that disagrees with your politics actually wronged you?
christelisbetty about 3 years ago
“I made a mistake” is not the same thing as “I am sorry I did that”, or “Please forgive me.”
fritzoid Premium Member about 3 years ago
“If there is no forgiveness, then there can be no redemption and no progress.”
Not so. One may begin one’s atonement before one has been forgiven. If nothing else, it demonstrates true contrition and sincerity. If forgiveness comes thereafter so much the better, but one should not wait for an apology to be accepted before working to right one’s wrongs.
theotherther1 about 3 years ago
I can’t forgive her either for a boring third panel that’s nothing but her being Stantis’ mouthpiece.
Night-Gaunt49[Bozo is Boffo] about 3 years ago
Stantis is serious.
rossevrymn about 3 years ago
$8 trillion and thousands of lives……………………….meanwhile the same “contritioners” are balking at the budget that seeks fixing people and our climate over war.