It’s always fun to watch how their imaginations work, that is until they start breaking stuff. I have to agree with Mom on that one. I’m so glad for the nicer weather so my granddaughter can burn up her pent up energy outside.
Johanan Rakkav,
If I were Hammy the Squirrel, I think I’d go nuts! If you were a ‘raving lunatic’, you’d already have gone nuts!
I dissected your comment comparing me to Digital Frog, and it leaves me like the Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County in another state where never the Twain shall meet. Mark my words! When I finally croak, I suppose my final words will be punny. As the heavenly hamburger said, “When the roll is call up yonder, I’ll be there.”
According to Watterson’s own notes on the strip, this one came about because newspaper editors were being overly critical of his drawing style. Fortunately, the popularity of C&H gave him enough clout to ignore them. A number of other Sunday strips also reflected this problem, including the one where Calvin enters a world where everything is drawn in the Cubist style..
Did Calvin find Dad’s college footlocker? Naw, know the imaginative child, I’d say this flashed through his mind about one second before the fall and about one and a half second before the scream.
X-D On the last panel, Mother refers that Calvin should be sent to the monkey;s house. That means Calvin should be sent to the ZOO with other crazy and freak monkeys. Or perhaps send to the mental institutuion?
Woodeye, Joe has apparently been banned. I wasn’t here to read what he may have posted to get himself removed, but apparently it was bad enough to get GoComics’ attention.
i don’t know what joe did to get himself banned - if that is what happened. he commented regularly on many strips in the gocomics stable, but as i recall not very often on c&h. his main activity was on ginger meggs, doonesbury, baldo, barkeater lake, argyle sweater and the meaning of lila.
Joe wrote snippets about his life and thoughts that didn’t nessesarily have anything to do with the comic. Several people started heckling him and he fought back. Instead of the moderator disciplining the hecklers, he/she must have banned Joe.
This was one of my (many) favorite strips back in the day. I had Sunday strips taped all over my walls (cheaper than buying posters!) and it was in a spot that I saw it several times a day.
Sorry, but I cannot accept this ztp. At the very beginning you were the #8 to sign on. Thanks again, though.
cleokaya:
You have the honor (?) of being the 100th person to zip me.
Hmmm…. Maybe I should re-phrase that last bit. Nah. Might stoke some imaginations among the readers, good for the mind, tmagination, Sane, that is.
For me Joe-Allen has been commenting far longer then I started. He talked about army days, teaching at schools, his family, and one and only. People either agreed with him or disagreed. He also commented on For Heavens Sake, where he felt he is a schollar. He would evan disagree with me. But I too had my own opionion. I won’t say where he was from but he would tell people what town and state he lived in.
Calvin you’ve had way to much of sugar booms too much energy. Wish you had friends to play with I know you love Hobbes, you need to go outside and play instead of tearing the house up.
This strip reminds me of Baby Blues when the older ones get into trouble.
I, like others, found many of Joe Doty’s comments interesting–even highly informative at times. But it was his insufferable, fault-finding criticisms of the comics themselves that rubbed some comic fans raw a few too many times. And we rightfully told him so.
That said, I’m betting it was an accumulation of complaints from the comic artists themselves that led to his finally getting himself booted out of the GoComics playground. (Bill Watterson could care less, haha).
After all Calvin she is your mom . She doesn’t see your world as you and Hobbes see it. Maybe that’s a good thing if she saw Hobbes running around and heard him talking then your dad would have to comment her.And do I need to say where !
I, like others, found many of Joe Doty’s comments interesting–even highly informative at times. But it was his insufferable, fault-finding criticisms of the comics themselves that rubbed some comic fans raw a few too many times. And we rightfully told him so.
That said, I’m betting it was an accumulation of complaints from the comic artists themselves that led to his finally getting himself booted out of the GoComics playground. (Bill Watterson could care less, haha).
_I honestly wish Joe well wherever he ends up. _
As I noted elsewhere, I got an e-mail (yesterday, I think) from Joe-Allen “Joe” Doty. The title had to do with comments on GoComics. I chose not to open or answer it, not wanting a debate with him on yet another level. In the light of what I’ve seen written here today, I wonder if maybe I should have.
Also in the light of a citation or two of Joe’s comments on GoComics today, I suspect the banning was more than justified.
To say no more than I must, I believe he was his own worst enemy socially and well and truly earned his banning, not just because of comments to the artists, but to some of his fellow posters. On the other hand, there were times when he was lucid, witty and, on rare occasions, surprisingly compassionate and empathetic.
Only recently did something click in my mind that made it a lot easier to sympathize with Joe and forgive him for his quirks. I realized that from all the signs, he’s what students of Jungian personality type would call an INTP. The order and roles of his thought processes fits. People of that type do find it harder than most to relate socially, although Joe seems to have been a fairly extreme case.
I wish him well too, but he didn’t earn a very long list of hecklers and even opponents here for nothing. And that saddens me.
Joe seems to have been a repeatedly warned offender.
I note that he has not been banned totally: his profile page is still up, and, after the last sequence of posts on Monday, July 12, he did post on Friday, July 16. (although that was also removed)
He may have caused more problems at some comic comments than others. I noticed that on some pages he seemed more tedious than aggressive, while on others he was more aggressive, even shading into abuse at times. And in generally he seemed to get more aware of the slightest hint of attacks, whether or not they were intended.
I’m a huge Calvin and Hobbes fan even though I’m only 16. I wish Bill Watterson would go back to it :( I have the books, my favorite is Homicidal Psycho Jungle Cat.
Yes, I learned elsewhere about the other nickname, earlier this afternoon. Thanks for the tip-off.
Rachel17: It’s hard to pick a favorite C&H book, but I love that title and the one I’m now forgetting about weird aliens from another planet. (You see, I’m not an owner, but a browser, of the books.) Bill W., on top of everything else, knew how to pick great titles for his books.
Johanan maybe you should have read that email. I think if he didn’t feel attacked all the time, and yes, he brings a lot on himself, I know, but I think deep down, he is a very kind hearted, misunderstood person. And you must admit, even when he’s done nothing wrong or offensive, some still go after him. Even when he was gone, there were still rude and nasty comments made. He has health issues, what’s the excuse for just being plain vicious? And I’m not referring to you, johanan.
The darker colors on Sunday make it harder to read the strip. Will this criticism get us banned? Joe regularly commented on Gasoline Alley and I don’t remember anything offensive enough to be banned. There are others still there that insult the cartoonist regularly.
Many bright children cannot do well on traditional paper and pencil tests. I’m surprised they haven’t put him on Ritalin yet. But what would the strip be about then?
Linda Arney,
I have not read any of Piers Anthony’s books. I’m not a science fiction fan. I read one of his newsletters. It was lengthy, but I didn’t see much that was punny.
margueritem over 14 years ago
I’d lose perspective too, Calvin.
Yukoner over 14 years ago
Of course she has no perspective, she’s your mother.
GROG Premium Member over 14 years ago
Calvin, I think you’ve entered The Twilight Zone
Good Morning, Marg, Mike & ♠Lonewolf♠!
rayannina over 14 years ago
I already feel sorry for the monkeys.
alviebird over 14 years ago
GoComics,
The general concensus here is that we want Joe back.
If that is not possible, I would appreciate an explanation.
ladywolf17 over 14 years ago
Calvin you lived in an abstract world…….Well for a moment at least.
shirttailslim over 14 years ago
Good Morning C&H fans.
Again I apologizefor the comment crush on Friday. I said it would just be a one-day thing and it was.
I now have 94 zip codes, thanks to the people here at C&H, 66of those zips came from you!!
I had a lot of imagination when I was young (still do) But never the caliber of Calvin’s imagination!
Thanks again LOL “=)))))
mike.firesmith over 14 years ago
Good morning Marg! Good morning Fran and Kizzzy! Good Morning L’Wolf! Good Morning Grog! Would the Monkey House buy him?
EditorKitties over 14 years ago
Good morning everyone! I’m new here! Get used to me :D I remember a dream like this once. It ended too soon.
WoodEye over 14 years ago
I’ve been outta town, what happened to Joe?
ironclad2001 over 14 years ago
Hello Shirttail Slim, From Warner Robins, Ga., here is a zip, 31093.. Hope its not a duplicate.
harrietbe over 14 years ago
What an amazing imagination and vocabulary! Poor Mom!!!
Dino-1 over 14 years ago
It’s always fun to watch how their imaginations work, that is until they start breaking stuff. I have to agree with Mom on that one. I’m so glad for the nicer weather so my granddaughter can burn up her pent up energy outside.
kimscorp87 over 14 years ago
I wish my imagination is as great as Calvin’s.. then I’m sure life will be so much fun.. haha..
Bittermelon of Truth over 14 years ago
What “monkey house” is Mom referring to? Is it a direct reference to Kurt Vonnegut’s work, or just the zoo?
kpreethy over 14 years ago
yeah!!! u should send her there!!!!!!!
lazygrazer over 14 years ago
I’ve always thought Watterson’s trippy Sunday ideas and art demonstrated the very best of his ingenuity.
Sandfan over 14 years ago
This is the point where I was always told to get my butt outside and play, and don’t come back until I was called.
Puddleglum2 over 14 years ago
Johanan Rakkav, If I were Hammy the Squirrel, I think I’d go nuts! If you were a ‘raving lunatic’, you’d already have gone nuts! I dissected your comment comparing me to Digital Frog, and it leaves me like the Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County in another state where never the Twain shall meet. Mark my words! When I finally croak, I suppose my final words will be punny. As the heavenly hamburger said, “When the roll is call up yonder, I’ll be there.”
runar over 14 years ago
According to Watterson’s own notes on the strip, this one came about because newspaper editors were being overly critical of his drawing style. Fortunately, the popularity of C&H gave him enough clout to ignore them. A number of other Sunday strips also reflected this problem, including the one where Calvin enters a world where everything is drawn in the Cubist style..
celeconecca over 14 years ago
I think Calvin and Escher would like each other.
twj0729 over 14 years ago
Ok, I gotta ask, who’s Joe and what does he have to do with C&H?
lewisbower over 14 years ago
Did Calvin find Dad’s college footlocker? Naw, know the imaginative child, I’d say this flashed through his mind about one second before the fall and about one and a half second before the scream.
fran650 over 14 years ago
GM Mike and Loki. GM All.
The vocabulary and imagination blow me away. Frank Loyd Wright for the Architect and furniture by Dali.
Charles Brobst Premium Member over 14 years ago
Binghamton NY, 13901, reporting in.
larney45 over 14 years ago
Puddleglum, did you ever read Piers Anthony books? They are punnier than thou!
gjsjr41 over 14 years ago
I read C&H every day and all the messages and I still don’t know what happened to Joe.
Wildmustang1262 over 14 years ago
X-D On the last panel, Mother refers that Calvin should be sent to the monkey;s house. That means Calvin should be sent to the ZOO with other crazy and freak monkeys. Or perhaps send to the mental institutuion?
LOLs!
cleokaya over 14 years ago
Bellingham, WA 98229
Welcome Dominique Schmidt.
Grog, I had the same thought run through my mind. It is very much like a “Twilight Zone” kind of moment.
JanLC over 14 years ago
Woodeye, Joe has apparently been banned. I wasn’t here to read what he may have posted to get himself removed, but apparently it was bad enough to get GoComics’ attention.
milano99 over 14 years ago
Broken Arrow, OK 74012
Jascat over 14 years ago
Blue Hill, ME 04614
chaco35 over 14 years ago
Oregon City, Oregon 97015
rentier over 14 years ago
I also want to know, who is Joe?
ninmas over 14 years ago
Joe got removed from Gocomics????
Muzition over 14 years ago
I know certain comics that are actually drawn like that.
tsouthworth over 14 years ago
Waterloo, IA 50702
JTGAM over 14 years ago
It’s great that Watterson never lost perspective of life. And I don’t think the monkeys ever did anything bad enough to deserve Calvin!
runar over 14 years ago
Joe posted some pretty insulting stuff over on Frog Applause - said the cartoonist “had the mindset of backwoods redneck trash”.
Bruce McKinney Premium Member over 14 years ago
Moms always do.
billdi Premium Member over 14 years ago
i don’t know what joe did to get himself banned - if that is what happened. he commented regularly on many strips in the gocomics stable, but as i recall not very often on c&h. his main activity was on ginger meggs, doonesbury, baldo, barkeater lake, argyle sweater and the meaning of lila.
natashalee over 14 years ago
Joe wrote snippets about his life and thoughts that didn’t nessesarily have anything to do with the comic. Several people started heckling him and he fought back. Instead of the moderator disciplining the hecklers, he/she must have banned Joe.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 14 years ago
Slim from where I lived many moons ago 28304
Salamurai over 14 years ago
This was one of my (many) favorite strips back in the day. I had Sunday strips taped all over my walls (cheaper than buying posters!) and it was in a spot that I saw it several times a day.
natashalee over 14 years ago
Slim 48306
shirttailslim over 14 years ago
GweedoMurray:
Sorry, but I cannot accept this ztp. At the very beginning you were the #8 to sign on. Thanks again, though.
cleokaya:
You have the honor (?) of being the 100th person to zip me. Hmmm…. Maybe I should re-phrase that last bit. Nah. Might stoke some imaginations among the readers, good for the mind, tmagination, Sane, that is.
Extra thanks to you cleokaya.
kab2rb over 14 years ago
For me Joe-Allen has been commenting far longer then I started. He talked about army days, teaching at schools, his family, and one and only. People either agreed with him or disagreed. He also commented on For Heavens Sake, where he felt he is a schollar. He would evan disagree with me. But I too had my own opionion. I won’t say where he was from but he would tell people what town and state he lived in.
Calvin you’ve had way to much of sugar booms too much energy. Wish you had friends to play with I know you love Hobbes, you need to go outside and play instead of tearing the house up.
This strip reminds me of Baby Blues when the older ones get into trouble.
lazygrazer over 14 years ago
I, like others, found many of Joe Doty’s comments interesting–even highly informative at times. But it was his insufferable, fault-finding criticisms of the comics themselves that rubbed some comic fans raw a few too many times. And we rightfully told him so.
That said, I’m betting it was an accumulation of complaints from the comic artists themselves that led to his finally getting himself booted out of the GoComics playground. (Bill Watterson could care less, haha).
I honestly wish Joe well wherever he ends up.
fsrstarr over 14 years ago
Hello All,
For Slim: Norwood, MO 65717
Calvin, your imagination is fun, but harrowing to your poor mom; give her break. Tomorrow she will learn her car is thrashed and her son is AWOL.
benbrilling over 14 years ago
Wouldn’t it be COOL if gocomics had higher resolution images on Sundays?
(Sure, I know you can enlarge them with a click, but that’s not the same, the blur just gets bigger.)
(Cooler yet if they had higher resolution all 7 days too, but at least Sundays, please.)
(They could improve the color on their scanning of Calvin & Hobbes too.)
rotts over 14 years ago
Folks, IMHO he IS back, albeit incognito. I think his comment style is fairly easy to ID. Look carefully, and you’ll find him.
Gretchen's Mom over 14 years ago
Mom, Mom, Mom … you don’t have enough money to pay the zoo/monkey house people to take Calvin off your hands!!!!!
;o)
LadybugMacon over 14 years ago
After all Calvin she is your mom . She doesn’t see your world as you and Hobbes see it. Maybe that’s a good thing if she saw Hobbes running around and heard him talking then your dad would have to comment her.And do I need to say where !
Rakkav over 14 years ago
grazer wrote about 2 hours ago:
I, like others, found many of Joe Doty’s comments interesting–even highly informative at times. But it was his insufferable, fault-finding criticisms of the comics themselves that rubbed some comic fans raw a few too many times. And we rightfully told him so.
That said, I’m betting it was an accumulation of complaints from the comic artists themselves that led to his finally getting himself booted out of the GoComics playground. (Bill Watterson could care less, haha).
_I honestly wish Joe well wherever he ends up. _
As I noted elsewhere, I got an e-mail (yesterday, I think) from Joe-Allen “Joe” Doty. The title had to do with comments on GoComics. I chose not to open or answer it, not wanting a debate with him on yet another level. In the light of what I’ve seen written here today, I wonder if maybe I should have.
Also in the light of a citation or two of Joe’s comments on GoComics today, I suspect the banning was more than justified.
To say no more than I must, I believe he was his own worst enemy socially and well and truly earned his banning, not just because of comments to the artists, but to some of his fellow posters. On the other hand, there were times when he was lucid, witty and, on rare occasions, surprisingly compassionate and empathetic.
Only recently did something click in my mind that made it a lot easier to sympathize with Joe and forgive him for his quirks. I realized that from all the signs, he’s what students of Jungian personality type would call an INTP. The order and roles of his thought processes fits. People of that type do find it harder than most to relate socially, although Joe seems to have been a fairly extreme case.
I wish him well too, but he didn’t earn a very long list of hecklers and even opponents here for nothing. And that saddens me.
bmonk over 14 years ago
Joe seems to have been a repeatedly warned offender.
I note that he has not been banned totally: his profile page is still up, and, after the last sequence of posts on Monday, July 12, he did post on Friday, July 16. (although that was also removed)
He may have caused more problems at some comic comments than others. I noticed that on some pages he seemed more tedious than aggressive, while on others he was more aggressive, even shading into abuse at times. And in generally he seemed to get more aware of the slightest hint of attacks, whether or not they were intended.
glitterygal07 over 14 years ago
I’m a huge Calvin and Hobbes fan even though I’m only 16. I wish Bill Watterson would go back to it :( I have the books, my favorite is Homicidal Psycho Jungle Cat.
Rakkav over 14 years ago
Hi bmonk,
Yes, I learned elsewhere about the other nickname, earlier this afternoon. Thanks for the tip-off.
Rachel17: It’s hard to pick a favorite C&H book, but I love that title and the one I’m now forgetting about weird aliens from another planet. (You see, I’m not an owner, but a browser, of the books.) Bill W., on top of everything else, knew how to pick great titles for his books.
tchu over 14 years ago
HEY, what happened to the busted-car story?!?!? i wanted to see what happens next. :(
alviebird over 14 years ago
Sunday strips are always out of the current story arc. It will be back tomorrow.
Dry and Dusty Premium Member over 14 years ago
Johanan maybe you should have read that email. I think if he didn’t feel attacked all the time, and yes, he brings a lot on himself, I know, but I think deep down, he is a very kind hearted, misunderstood person. And you must admit, even when he’s done nothing wrong or offensive, some still go after him. Even when he was gone, there were still rude and nasty comments made. He has health issues, what’s the excuse for just being plain vicious? And I’m not referring to you, johanan.
mrprongs over 14 years ago
With all his knowledge, how doe she not do well on tests?
cleokaya over 14 years ago
Glad to help Shirttail Slim.
kid1at3heart over 14 years ago
Laurelville, OH 43135
marvee over 14 years ago
The darker colors on Sunday make it harder to read the strip. Will this criticism get us banned? Joe regularly commented on Gasoline Alley and I don’t remember anything offensive enough to be banned. There are others still there that insult the cartoonist regularly.
marvee over 14 years ago
Many bright children cannot do well on traditional paper and pencil tests. I’m surprised they haven’t put him on Ritalin yet. But what would the strip be about then?
Puddleglum2 over 14 years ago
Linda Arney, I have not read any of Piers Anthony’s books. I’m not a science fiction fan. I read one of his newsletters. It was lengthy, but I didn’t see much that was punny.
runar over 14 years ago
My favorite C&H book is the three-volume The Complete Calvin and Hobbes. With that on my shelf, I don’t need any others.
ratlum over 14 years ago
Calvin pay attention ,she said the monkey house. It dont get worse than this.
texassoldier86 over 14 years ago
Slim, got one for ya, 76354, Texas-home APO AE-09393-Iraq-current duty station